[PGT] WCQF Game 1: Flames 2 - Ducks 3

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Stockton has 2 more games to play and if they win tonight they are in the playoffs. I would very much like to see Janko on the Flames because he gives the Flames a better chance at winning the series. He's already better than the entire 4th line. He would make a difference.

I seriously doubt this. suggesting a rookie is going to help the Flames win in the playoffs is the same as suggesting that they are awful.

I don't think the Flames are so bad that a person with 1 NHL game experience is going to help them turn around. Especially since the Flames lost because of mental errors and bad face-offs. Two things that rookies are known for doing.

[Manhattanboy]

Agree with those who went to bed furious and woke up sad.

I keep telling myself playoffs are about adversity and nothing is easy. Don't get too high or too low.

The Flames got a good dose of self imposed adversity right out of the gate last night which might not be the worse thing to have happened.

If I recall two years ago we played very poorly in Game 1 against VAN and battled back. Even the game 6 series win was a battle from behind.

So we are behind. Fine. This team battled back from a disastrous start to the season. They can do it again.

Go Flames Go.

[stone hands]

flames are still winning this series

stay out of the box, ffs

[heep223]

One thing I really noticed last night is that I feel the team is underutilizing Gaudreau on the PP. It always seems to go to the other side to Versteeg who makes the same play every time - a full slap shot or a slap pass. Obviously it worked last night but still Gaudreau is just standing around for the most part.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I seriously doubt this. suggesting a rookie is going to help the Flames win in the playoffs is the same as suggesting that they are awful.

I don't think the Flames are so bad that a person with 1 NHL game experience is going to help them turn around. Especially since the Flames lost because of mental errors and bad face-offs. Two things that rookies are known for doing.

Janko is better than Brouwer and Bouma, he would do far more than both put together. 2011 first round pick, playing him over either of those guys is not a risk considering both are useless. Yes both are very much useless outside of the Penalty kill where they are both just average, probably below average penalty killers.

[sa226]

I like the idea of taking the split in game two, then heading home with momentum and confidence.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Janko is better than Brouwer and Bouma, he would do far more than both put together. 2011 first round pick, playing him over either of those guys is not a risk considering both are useless. Yes both are very much useless outside of the Penalty kill where they are both just average, probably below average penalty killers.

Maybe he is and maybe he isnt...but there is absolutely zero evidence either way.

he is having a really good first year as a pro, learning all sorts of things about the game at the pro level and leading his club to the playoffs....leave him right where he is unless injuries dictate otherwise, give him a full camp in the fall and THEN lets see if he is abe to displace someone with a mittfull more NHL experience.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Maybe he is and maybe he isnt...but there is absolutely zero evidence either way.

he is having a really good first year as a pro, learning all sorts of things about the game at the pro level and leading his club to the playoffs....leave him right where he is unless injuries dictate otherwise, give him a full camp in the fall and THEN lets see if he is abe to displace someone with a mittfull more NHL experience.

I see no reason on not giving him a game. Bouma has done nothing all year, not a god damn thing. He should be sat and the skilled 6'4 22 year old first round pick should be playing regardless of experience. Flames had no issue letting Bennett play his first game in the playoffs, Janko is much further along than Bennett was, he should be playing. What if Janko could make a massive differnce? You don't know, what you do know is Bouma/Brouwer won't be.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

All of that is basically the Ducks reaping their year long harvest: target guys on the team incessantly until they get worried about you. Seems to have worked with Johnny, and the last two games you can see Kesler work on Monahan full-time.

Kesler was held pointless in that game, which is amazing considering he's usually a Flame killer. The only effect he had last night was when he sat on the puck with 20 seconds left. Monahan was one of the lone bright spots last night and played one of his better games in my opinion.

[MarkGio]

My thoughts on last night's game:

• Gaudreau was holding his stick way too tight. He couldn't even make simple passes.
• Backlund was slow to arrive. He wasn't effective until the 3rd period
• Many players were not prepared, such as Stajan, Chiasson, Brouwer, Bouma, Frolik, JG, Backlund
• Many players had a good start but then disappeared as the game went on, such as Monahan, Bennett, Hamilton, Bartowski, and Stone
• Too many interruptions with power plays and penalty kills for the Flames to play their game
• Ferland and Versteeg didn't get enough ice time
• Brouwer and Chiasson got too much ice time
• Gaudreau got too much ice time

I really want to see Brouwer scratched for Lazar. Gaudreau needs to be bumped down the line-up until he gets it together. I would go with these lines for the next game:


Versteeg - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lazar
Gaudreau - Bennett - Frolik
Bouma - Stajan - Chiasson/Hamilton

[TheScorpion]

I'm really excited for tomorrow's game, if not for the GDT alone.

[stamps]

Game 2 is a new game .... bring it on .... Go Flames Go !!!!!

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I agree Brouwer has been underwhelming this season but there's close to zero chance they scratch a UFA they paid that much money for in the playoffs, where he should be most effective. Could happen, but I really doubt it.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Fun fact: the final score in the Flames' 1st game of the 2004 playoffs was 5-3 for Vancouver.

Fun fact: I had lower bowl seats for game 3 in 2004 and got to sit amongst the players wives. I didn't score and was shutout

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Versteeg - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lazar
Gaudreau - Bennett - Frolik
Bouma - Stajan - Chiasson/Hamilton

Now is not the time to be playing 52 card pickup with the roster.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by heep223

One thing I really noticed last night is that I feel the team is underutilizing Gaudreau on the PP. It always seems to go to the other side to Versteeg who makes the same play every time - a full slap shot or a slap pass. Obviously it worked last night but still Gaudreau is just standing around for the most part.

Johnny is best on the PP at puck retrieval - I think that's why they pass to the other side. Shot misses/goes wide/big rebound/whatever, JG can get FAST to the puck, retrieve and reload. At least that's the way it worked when the PP was going really well.

[Par]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

The Heat have two games left and can clinch playoffs with a point tonight.

If the Heat have 2 games left that means that they have played 68 games, while other teams have played 70+ games. How does that work?

[hurtin_albertan]

Ever since the big win streak the Flames have been having moments in games where they just inexplicably fall asleep and get scored on. I can't for the life of me figure it out and they did it again last night. Going along just fine and then it's like they all forget that they're playing hockey and a few seconds later they're fishing the puck out of their net. They had that game in the palm of their hand and just gave it away.


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[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Par

If the Heat have 2 games left that means that they have played 68 games, while other teams have played 70+ games. How does that work?

It goes on points percentage, not actual points.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Par

If the Heat have 2 games left that means that they have played 68 games, while other teams have played 70+ games. How does that work?

The division they play in plays less games.