[Rumour] UPD: Friedman: Thinks a deal will get done between Gaudreau and the Flames in the next week

[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by Husky

Really surprised there hadnt been more chatter ipdates by media of whats going on.

I think that with both sides not talking, there probably just isn't much to update at this point.

I hate stalemates.

[Robbob]

Even if they are talking both sides are tight lipped. They aren't going to feed the media info. If they start doing that then this will be a longer and more drawn out negotiation.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Robbob

Even if they are talking both sides are tight lipped. They aren't going to feed the media info. If they start doing that then this will be a longer and more drawn out negotiation.

Agents are almost never tight lipped. That's how 90% of the non Oilers news gets out. It serves the agent quite well right now to get the fans lathered into a ball of fear to put maximum pressure on Treliving

[foshizzle11]

They need to just settle in the middle. Pay him 7.4 x 8 and call it a day. I really hope there isn't any resentment toward the team after this for John.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by foshizzle11

They need to just settle in the middle. Pay him 7.4 x 8 and call it a day. I really hope there isn't any resentment toward the team after this for John.

The good news is even if there is resentment, it almost always goes away shortly

[JerryUnderscore]

Originally Posted by foshizzle11

They need to just settle in the middle. Pay him 7.4 x 8 and call it a day. I really hope there isn't any resentment toward the team after this for John.

Couldn't the same thing be said going the other way?

A common refrain during these negotiations is that some people are worried Gaudreau's feelings will be hurt and he won't want to play for the Flames anymore. But couldn't it be just as likely that the Flames feels get hurt and they don't want him to play for them anymore?

Of course, there's a level of absurdity in the question since hurt feelings really shouldn't factor into this situation at all.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by foshizzle11

They need to just settle in the middle. Pay him 7.4 x 8 and call it a day. I really hope there isn't any resentment toward the team after this for John.

If he agrees to an 8 year deal there is more than enough time to rebuild any damage that may have been caused

[JerryUnderscore]

I'm completely baffled at why anyone is insinuating that the Flames are simply trying to "cheap out" on paying Gaudreau. There seems to be an underlying implication that the organization is simply trying to cut costs and save a couple million dollars. However, the organization has always been comfortable spending to the cap.

The name of the game is cap efficiency. Every team has up to $73M to spend this year. The more you can maximize that money, the better your team will do.

Treliving trying to play hardball with Gaudreau's agent is not because he doesn't like Johnny or he thinks he's bad player, he simply wants to maximize his cap. Gaudreau will more than likely score the same number of goals this year whether he's making $6.5M or $8M.

[Poe969]

100% agree with Jerry, if there was no cap I think Johnny would have been signed by now. Management wants to have as much room to work with and who knows, maybe they have a trade in mind that would really help the team but need that extra cap space...

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Poe969

100% agree with Jerry, if there was no cap I think Johnny would have been signed by now. Management wants to have as much room to work with and who knows, maybe they have a trade in mind that would really help the team but need that extra cap space...

Or are planning to bring Russell back at 3 years for $12M, so maybe there is some silver lining to this holdout...

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Agents are almost never tight lipped. That's how 90% of the non Oilers news gets out. It serves the agent quite well right now to get the fans lathered into a ball of fear to put maximum pressure on Treliving

Which is kind of my point. other then the we won't discuss contracts during the world cup statement, there hasn't been anything. i think Trelving even mentioned that he asked and got permission to talk to Johnny during the world cup. The Francis's story early on was him getting input from other agents, not Gross. Very much business as usual up to this point.

[burnitdown]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

I'm using KISS? The guy I quoted literally said you save your money to pay Bennett, not Gaudreau.

Bennett is my 2nd favorite Flame, and I really hope he breaks out in a big way and we can justify giving him close to Monahan money. A young core of Gaudreau (7.5), Monahan (6.4), and Bennett (~6) would be tremendous value for the next 7 years. That's 19.4 locked up in 2 star centers and a perennial art ross contender.

Oh no...is this what we have to look forward to next season?! Countless posts about how anything under $6M for Bennett would be total disrespect and the market would pay him $7M?!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

The good news is even if there is resentment, it almost always goes away shortly

Especially when the coach isn't the GM.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Karl Racki

Because Bennett is a competitor and the future captain. Guys like Bennett win road games, playoff games and (hopefully) Stanley Cups. Be ready to pay him, not Johnny.

lol maybe he will be but right now he's a 40 point player. You're not going to pay the proven star player of the team because you have a 19 year old player who scored 40 points?

You've Tkachuk coming up, now that's the guy you want to pay, not Bennett

[CroFlames]

For people who have kids, do you think when Johnny finally signs you'll be happier than the day your kid was born?

It'll feel like Christmas for me and this thread can die off.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by polak

lol maybe he will be but right now he's a 40 point player. You're not going to pay the proven star player of the team because you have a 19 year old player who scored 40 points?

You've Tkachuk coming up, now that's the guy you want to pay, not Bennett

Bennett is going to be a better player than Tkachuk.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by polak

You're not going to pay the proven star player of the team because you have a 19 year old player who scored 40 points?

Please stop saying this.

[nik-]

polak is approaching (has reached?) gadreauvertime levels at this point

[polak]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Please stop saying this.

A lot more proven than Sam Bennett. Who posters are saying we should worry about signing more than Gaudreau. Which is wrong.

Originally Posted by nik-

polak is approaching (has reached?) gadreauvertime levels at this point

Cause I think we should make sure we sign Gaudreau and keep him happy with a 7-7.5 million dollar deal? and that I think it's a bad idea to tell your star player to sit and pound sand because "he has no rights" and can suck it up or take some lowball Gio Cap number?

K

[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Please stop saying this.

He's not a proven star? 2 time all star, MVP on his world cup team, 6th in league scoring, 3rd amongst LW'ers in points in his two seasons in the league.

He's absolutely a proven star.