Brexit- Update: Britain has voted to leave the EU

[GirlySports]

they should do 2 out of 3 for tv ratings

[Flash Walken]

They should do referendum by combat. Each side pick a champion.

[nik-]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7102516.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-...endum-36629324

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/eu...-a3280921.html

More Bregret

[sharkov]

The people who started regrexit obviously did not bother to figure out what they were voting for on June 23

[accord1999]

On the other hand, there's a poll which indicates there are more Remain voters who are happy or indifferent with the result than there are Leave voters who are unhappy:

https://twitter.com/britainelects/st...20394217259008

And another poll that suggest most Brits don't want a second referendum:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...jority-8283139

[nik-]

I dunno, I think only 79% of the people who voted leave saying it should be honored is pretty damning. A full 14% of Leave voters think they should vote again with the new EU terms, basically saying they wanted an extortion.

[accord1999]

What I see from the polls is that there are more people happy with the result than are unhappy, in fact there's a good chance there are more happy with the result than there were who voted for Leave. What I don't see is a measurable change in heart in Leave supporters, at least no more than the number of Remain supporters changing their minds. If there is any regret at all, it might be #REGREMAIN

[FlamesAddiction]

Change is scary. If you did a similar poll after many democratic referendums, you would probably get a similar result.

There is no reason to think that the UK won't bounce back strong in the long run. They prop up the EU more than it props them up.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by accord1999

What I see from the polls is that there are more people happy with the result than are unhappy, in fact there's a good chance there are more happy with the result than there were who voted for Leave. What I don't see is a measurable change in heart in Leave supporters, at least no more than the number of Remain supporters changing their minds. If there is any regret at all, it might be #REGREMAIN

A Remain voter saying the vote should be honored isn't them changing their mind though, it's honoring the process of a referendum.

Changing their mind would be "would you vote to leave now" and saying yes.

[SeeGeeWhy]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Scotland would keep the oil in their waters, some is in England's.
It is Scotland's resource.

I was more thinking about how London based DECC issues licenses and collects royalties on the Scottish reserves.

On the balance I think this is a blow to an already struggling field. I can think of lots of English manufacturing companies that supply those platforms. They might have to relocate to Scotland to avoid any trade friction between the two countries if Scotland leaves the UK. Less royalty income for the British, too. Not good for all the austerity that is likely to come out of all of this.

On the upside I think this could actually help nuclear power plants continue to gain momentum in Britain now that they'll be outside of EU driven pro-mandates on renewable and anti-mandates on the use of nuclear.

Time will tell. Very curious to see how it all plays out. Who else leaves, how lines get redrawn and what new trade agreements get built.

Interesting how revealing the stats have been on some stark divisions within the society. Seeing a lot of parallels in North America

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by nik-

A Remain voter saying the vote should be honored isn't them changing their mind though, it's honoring the process of a referendum.

Changing their mind would be "would you vote to leave now" and saying yes.

That's what I'm seeing, 4% Remain happy with the result vs 1% Leave unhappy though both are very small. Still, the poll is clearly not showing the narrative that there are significant numbers of Leave voters who now regret their decision.

[nik-]

Accepting the result doesn't mean happy with the result. You're making an assumption.

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by nik-

Accepting the result doesn't mean happy with the result. You're making an assumption.

I'm only using Happy/Unhappy which in that poll was 4% Remain voters being happy with Leave winning and 1% for Leave voters being unhappy with Leave winning. Anyways, the main point is that there is no evidence that large numbers of people are regretting their votes.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by accord1999

I'm only using Happy/Unhappy which in that poll was 4% Remain voters being happy with Leave winning and 1% for Leave voters being unhappy with Leave winning. Anyways, the main point is that there is no evidence that large numbers of people are regretting their votes.

I mean this is from the article you yourself posted.

I don't see how 14% of the winners wanting to vote again with new conditions equates to only 1% being unhappy. Happy voters don't want to change what they just won in reality.

7% aren't even sure. Happy voters should be sure should they not?

That 79% happy with the result also assumes that there are no people who voted leave as a protest, while not actually wanting to leave, and are just accepting that this is the result.

[accord1999]

I used this Twitter post of a poll result to show how little people want to change their votes:

https://twitter.com/britainelects/st...20394217259008

I used the Mirror poll as an indicator that there is no overwhelming demand for another referendum.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by nik-

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7102516.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-...endum-36629324

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/eu...-a3280921.html

More Bregret

I don't really get some of those voters' rationale. "I voted to leave, but I didn't actually think we would actually leave". So why vote leave in the first place? Its your own fault for not educating yourselves, now you face the consequences.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I don't really get some of those voters' rationale. "I voted to leave, but I didn't actually think we would actually leave". So why vote leave in the first place? Its your own fault for not educating yourselves, now you face the consequences.

You've never voted for a political candidate who you didn't think would win?

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I don't really get some of those voters' rationale. "I voted to leave, but I didn't actually think we would actually leave". So why vote leave in the first place? Its your own fault for not educating yourselves, now you face the consequences.

Maybe, like Quebecois and Scotsmen, they thought they were just voting for more bribes?

[Flashpoint]

Criticising the “surprisingly poorly informed” debate around future trade agreements, Professor Dougan said the real problem would not be tariffs. It would be “The Holy Grail of international trade, regulatory barriers.”

The “unique achievement” of the EU’s common market standardisation, he said, was to overcome the problem of manufacturers requiring separate production lines to comply with each country’s different packaging, environmental and consumer protection regulations: “Nothing else on the planet compares to it.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7095486.html

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

You've never voted for a political candidate who you didn't think would win?

I have, but I've always voted for the candidate who I wanted to win.