Federal Election Called for Oct 19, 2015

[carbonrod]

Originally Posted by ae118

Lowering the GST was vote pandering and reducing perfectly good revenue.

How is yet another tax 'perfectly good revenue'?

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

i'm waiting for the NDP or the Liberals to talk about a carbon tax but that the money taken in carbon tax in each province will stay in that province to fund green infrastructure such as LRT, wind farms, solar farms, etc.

Unless this isn't about the environment and is more about transferring wealth...

Sadly, of course the libs and NDP will simply use a carbon tax as yet another revenue stream for the government to mishandle. Much like equalization payments, carbon tax revenue will be transferred into a holding bucket administered out east, and the other provinces will never see it.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by Bootsy

If people think the provincial NDP are hurting the oil and gas industry (which they certainly are not helping in a down cycle) it'll be a rude awakening if the Federal ones get in, they will do all they can do destroy it with their policies, especially without a Klein type leader to help defend against it, Notley will cave to whatever Mulcair puts through. Dark times in Alberta could get even darker.

Decide for yourself if it's a help or hindrance, but one of the distinct differences of the NDP is it's the same party national and provincial. Notley and Mulcair aren't sort of notionally aligned, but part of the same team. The provincial party exists under the Feds with a requirement to be aligned. The unions and party members who decide leaders and policy vote in their province and federally though I don't think cross province.

That doesn't mean they won't publicly disagree as different constituencies will get tailored messages, but they won't work to opposing goals.

[flamesfan6]

Want to attend any of Harper's events? You have to sign a gag order and agree to be searched

Members of the public who attend Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s campaign events are being required to agree to a gag order before they can walk through the door

http://ipolitics.ca/2015/08/08/parti...-to-gag-order/

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by flamesfan6

Want to attend any of Harper's events? You have to sign a gag order and agree to be searched



http://ipolitics.ca/2015/08/08/parti...-to-gag-order/

Desperate to avoid his own Romney 47% debacle

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by flamesfan6

Want to attend any of Harper's events? You have to sign a gag order and agree to be searched



http://ipolitics.ca/2015/08/08/parti...-to-gag-order/

Yay! Democracy!

Jeez, the guy won't be happy until he's put a gag ordet on the whole nation. What's the next group that won't be able to talk? Scientists. Media to a certain extent (by denying them access), now his own supporters!

[flamesfan6]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Yay! Democracy!

Jeez, the guy won't be happy until he's put a gag ordet on the whole nation. What's the next group that won't be able to talk? Scientists. Media to a certain extent (by denying them access), now his own supporters!

he has already muzzled a lot of scientists .. but he'll just muzzle them and more even worse

[GGG]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

I get what you're saying. But TFSA's are not tax cuts. They're available to everyone and encourage people to save and invest...the key to not being poor. I will agree with you however that having zero dollars at the end of the year will preclude you from this benefit. If after all taxes are paid and you do not have $100, the only benefit to you could see is a GST cut, after all, the poor spend most of their money. However, lots of people disagree with cutting the GST because it's really easy to collect and also because they think it makes Harper look bad.

And income splitting...it's not at all like what you think. The biggest beneficiaries lie in the 60-120k families. Yes, rich families benefit as well, but not as many and not any more than the middle income earners. Couples making under 60k are under represented in income splitting but take the most child tax benefit. However, benefiting from an actual tax cut does require actual taxable income. It does suck for single people who get nothing, but then again, there the vast numbers of kidless wonders who will never get the joy of writing off their gym memberships.

I'm not anti Tfsa, I'm anti increasing the limit. I would prefer to see a combined Tfsa / rrsp deduction limit so people could use whatever vehicle suits them but raising the TFSA limit was bad policy.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by flamesfan6

Want to attend any of Harper's events? You have to sign a gag order and agree to be searched

http://ipolitics.ca/2015/08/08/parti...-to-gag-order/

Of course they should be searched. That should always be basic security for our Prime Minister.
I'm also not sure that the PM needs to make time for the editor of the Balzac Leader.

The rest is really foolish. CPC shooting themselves in the foot with this kind of stupidity.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by robbie111

Now that Mulcair thinks he has a chance at seats in Alberta I think his tune will change drastically.

I doubt it. It's much better strategy for him to keep pandering to Quebec and BC, and maybe pick up a few seats in Alberta despite that. (It worked for Notley .)

Originally Posted by Daradon

The reason I don't like May is she hasn't been able to grow the brand at all in nearly 20 years.

It might sound weird to say this, but if they could just get past their "envinronment before everything else" attitude, they'd be pretty solid. Of course, that's right in their name, so fat chance. It's not "May" that's got the brand issues. It's "Green".

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Daradon

http://ipolitics.ca/2015/08/08/parti...-to-gag-order/

Well it doesn't say anywhere that you have to "sign" any agreement. The way it's worded in that article it sounds like they are taking literally the fine print on the back of a ticket.

I got this from the back of a Stampeders game ticket.
- Ticket holder assumes all risks and dangers
- May not record or transmit the game using any device
- Agree to be searched
- Objectionable conduct will be expelled
- Stampeders can use photos or video of crowd without compensation
- Person is subject to all facility rules

Sound about the same? like almost exactly the same?

How dare the Conservatives act like some kind of fascist CFL team?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Well it doesn't say anywhere that you have to "sign" any agreement. The way it's worded in that article it sounds like they are taking literally the fine print on the back of a ticket.

I got this from the back of a Stampeders game ticket.
- Ticket holder assumes all risks and dangers
- May not record or transmit the game using any device
- Agree to be searched
- Objectionable conduct will be expelled
- Stampeders can use photos or video of crowd without compensation
- Person is subject to all facility rules

Sound about the same? like almost exactly the same?

How dare the Conservatives act like some kind of fascist CFL team?

Well, it's the sitting federal government, not a football team. They do serve different roles. Like, you know, the Stamps don't get to make decisions on my family's healthcare, where my tax dollars go, and wars.

Anyway...

“Holder (of the confirmation of registration) is prohibited from transmitting or aiding in transmitting any description, account, picture or reproduction of the Event,”

That's an interesting touch. Did the Stamps lay out any rules about you talking about the game on the internet, or posting a photo of your hot dog on instagram?

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

That's an interesting touch. Did the Stamps lay out any rules about you talking about the game on the internet, or posting a photo of your hot dog on instagram?

Again, if it's what I think, that kind of stuff is on the back of a standard event ticket. Looking at the ipolitics main page it looks worse than the TorStar so I wouldn't be surprised if that article is basically a smear job.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Again, if it's what I think, that kind of stuff is on the back of a standard event ticket. Looking at the ipolitics main page it looks worse than the TorStar so I wouldn't be surprised if that article is basically a smear job.

Again, it isn't a standard event. This isn't football or entertainment.

We have an election coming up and the Prime Minister is dictating not only who is allowed to come hear what he has to say, but he's telling them they are not allowed to repeat what he actually says.

He's not the quarterback or a pop singer. This is kind of important stuff in a democracy.

[ae118]

Originally Posted by carbonrod

How is yet another tax 'perfectly good revenue'?

It was an existing tax at a reasonable rate that there wasn't a lot of complaining about. If you cut it, you have to deal with the consequences.


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[ae118]

Jacks, if you really think there's nothing wrong with that, I'm not sure what to say. He's the prime minister and the leader of the current government. Which, despite being The Harper Government (tm) is supposed to represent us all. No other party leaders are doing this or have in recent memory. And it's certainly not just being reported in the Star.


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[craigwd]

Originally Posted by ae118

Except the specifics of his trade deals are never discussed widely, so we end up with the China deal or whatever might be in the TPP.

Lowering the GST was vote pandering and reducing perfectly good revenue.

If you mean OTP, I think any government would have done so.


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But, like all political discussion, that's just your opinion.
I have no problem with the trade agreements nor the lowering of the GST because it allowed me to afford new things.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

We have an election coming up and the Prime Minister is dictating not only who is allowed to come hear what he has to say, but he's telling them they are not allowed to repeat what he actually says.

Oh the drama. How are they going to stop people from talking the next day on Twitter or whatever? are they going to throw them out of the event that ended the day before?

Never mind, Harper is evil, carry on.

[ae118]

Originally Posted by craigwd

But, like all political discussion, that's just your opinion.

I have no problem with the trade agreements nor the lowering of the GST because it allowed me to afford new things.

Other than the fact that the trade deals are either done or under discussion, of course. The point is that these aren't exactly highly lauded changes from several different camps. You'd think a decent prime minister would make at least some positive, lasting impacts.

The only positive I will give him from my perspective is the maternal health initiatives, but those weren't problem-free either as I believe they took issue with abortion.


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[Slava]

Trudeau the sole defender of the oilsands? http://www.edmontonjournal.com/story.html?id=11274625

[Vulcan]

What I find appalling is that the events are by invitation only, not that I'd want to watch Harper but the idea that it isn't open is also a reflection on the way he runs the government. Harper's been in power way too long and has become corrupt. I hope he loses and from what I've seen he's been holding that party together from the outset and they are due for a collapse.