2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[heep223]

Originally Posted by TOfan

from a cultural standpoint, it is the middle of the prairies. If you have ever been anywhere outside of Calgary, you would get that. Or Saskatchewan.....Calgary must feel like 'The Big City' for you.

Dude WTF

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Poe969

spoken like a true Torontonian! Toronto is the centre of the universe and everyplace else sucks compared to Toronto!

Let's not get into what city is better, it'll just get messy.

fair enough. I'll drop it.

later fellas, go flames go.

[Incogneto]

Originally Posted by kehatch

On another site I saw him traded for Tarasenko. He was also traded for Okposo + Pulock. Here is worth the same as Kessel.

He is worth a lot. Both to the Flames or whatever team we trade him for. Last season certainly upped his value. But he isn't worth that much.

Hudler for Okposo and Pulock? Sign me up for that, Stat! I would even throw in #53.

[GreenLantern]

What happens if they don't match either? What if you owe say 2 1sts and 2 2nds to them now? Are you responsible for getting another 1st this year to flip to them, or does it go to 2016?

Imagine losing both of your 1st and 2nd round picks two years in a row.. lol. I think it is a horrible idea and a poor strategy. Probably the reason we haven't seen anyone do it yet.


Also, to be fair a lot of what TOfan is saying has already been said about other cities by people from Calgary on this board. People here constantly look down on Winnipeg, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Regina and many smaller market American teams.. I have seen that same smug attitude many times. Now you guys understand how infuriating it is to everyone else from the outside looking in.

[bax]

Originally Posted by TOfan

from a cultural standpoint, it is the middle of the prairies. If you have ever been anywhere outside of Calgary, you would get that. Or Saskatchewan.....Calgary must feel like 'The Big City' for you.

Rude and ignorant

[ForeverFlameFan]

Would you guys offersheet Saad? He'd be the perfect 2nd line LW behind Gaudreau.

[RyZ]

Originally Posted by TOfan

from a cultural standpoint, it is the middle of the prairies. If you have ever been anywhere outside of Calgary, you would get that. Or Saskatchewan.....Calgary must feel like 'The Big City' for you.

I picture this being typed on an Apple product in a downtown Toronto cafe while sipping a latte (pinky finger extended) and munching on a piece of $12 biscotti. Must feel like you are the "center of the universe".

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by Poe969

spoken like a true Torontonian! Toronto is the centre of the universe and everyplace else sucks compared to Toronto!

Let's not get into what city is better, it'll just get messy.

Rob Ford. That is all.

Let's not get into the fact that across the globe Toronto is seen as the biggest joke in Canada.

Quick geography lesson. Calgary is considered to be in the 'foothills of the rockies', while the motto in Saskatchewon is 'heart of the prairies'.

I love how TOFan is still trying to debate this fact. He's going full Polak.

[BrownDrake]

I wonder how the offer sheet is actually viewed by GM's around the league? They all seem to dance around the issue - are they only used by desperate GM's or GM's that aren't well liked to begin with?

You wonder if an offer sheet would limit the number of GM's that may deal with you in the future. Will it only be used for teams in the same division where potential trades are unlikely anyway?

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Red Menace

interesting take on targeting teams with a "dual" offer sheet

http://www.tsn.ca/dual-offer-sheets-...alent-1.315613

That L.A. one intrigues me.

Would have no issue with trying to pry Jones and Toffoli out of there.

EDM should be all over that.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by kehatch

Hudler's point per game each season to date: 0.37, 0.52, 0.7, 0.51, 0.62, 0.67, 0.64, 0.72, 0.97.

I really like the guy. But one of those numbers doesn't belong. Not for a 30+ year old in his 9 full season.

No comment on Kessel. But I think some might be over valuing Hudler's trade value.

The Flames don't need to move Hudler. I don't believe the Flames want to move Hudler. There is no urgency for the Flames to move Hudler.

The only way the Flames will move Hudler is if the other team offers up a massive overpayment for him. It doesn't matter what Hudler's career averages are because he won't get traded for his career average value.

It's not so much what Hudler's real trade value is, it's how much does the other team need to offer to get Treliving to consider trading Hudler.

[sureLoss]

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[Parallex]

So... can I get a summation of what all this Kessel stuff is about?

In regards to Phil Kessel here's what I think... Phil Kessel is 27 (turning 28 in October) has a 8M cap hit and is signed for 7 more years (with a NTC). That's a lot of moolah for one guy, but some guys are worth that so is Phil Kessel one of those guys?

Standard Stats: Consistent 30 goal scorer, probably averages 0.8PPG. Excellent in this era.

Possession Stats: Not so good, negative shot attempt differential, slightly negative shot attempts in terms of on/off ice but pretty close to neutral (team wasn't better with him on the ice as opposed to off the ice in that regard).

Non-stat notables:Close your eyes and think of a generic athlete... does that athlete physically resemble Phil Kessel? I'm guessing unless you love professional bowling (and you consider it an athletic endeavor) then the answer is "no". That matters because how many guys that aren't in great shape age well? The answer is "not many" and that puts significantly more risk on the back-end of that contract. He also has a standoffish personality so he can't really be "the guy" in a hockey market. My personal observation was also that he contributed to the thick atmosphere of "I don't give a crap" that came off the Leafs late last year... the fans in your building paid (a lot) of good money to watch you play I really hated seeing a bunch of guys essentually paid to put on a show half-assing it out there.

So then who is ideally "the market" for Phil Kessel? A non-hockey market, where there are already guys that drive play but lack a sniper, that has both money and cap space, that is in win now mode (and unconcerned about the back half of his contract), that he will accept a trade to. I don't think that team exists... still 30 goals is 30 goals so someone will want him but I think Leaf fans had best start to accept that what that someone will give up for him isn't what their hopes and dreams are made of.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

Rob Ford. That is all.

Let's not get into the fact that across the globe Toronto is seen as the biggest joke in Canada.

Quick geography lesson. Calgary is considered to be in the 'foothills of the rockies', while the motto in Saskatchewon is 'heart of the prairies'.

I love how TOFan is still trying to debate this fact. He's going full Polak.

Now I am not trying to defend this guy or toronto really, but on a Global scale Toronto is not seen as joke. Not even close.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Okay, let's please try to keep this thread on topic. Thanks.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Not a trade rumor, but it sounds like the 15-16 schedule will come out on Thursday.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

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Leafs hoping to come to terms with Zach Hyman soon. Also not that far off on re-signing Tim Erixon and Petter Grandberg.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Okay, let's please try to keep this thread on topic. Thanks.

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Not a trade rumor, but it sounds like the 15-16 schedule will come out on Thursday.

These two posts back to back are a little funny.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

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[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Igster

These two posts back to back are a little funny.

Hey, it's a rumor about the schedule! Just didn't know where else to put it.