2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[simmer2]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Oh boy did Simmer just out himself as a Canuck fan?

I forgot I'd posted this! apparently some backlash haha.

Horvat and Bennett play similar games, similar age to be in the league, and both have similar point totals.

For the record though, I hate the Canucks.

[GB70]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

The only reason Crosby's cap hit is so low is because it's a cheater, back diving deal from the old CBA. For that reason, You can't compare Stamkos' new deal to Crosby's old one. If Crosby was a UFA this summer, I have no doubt he would get at least $11m AAV, and that's after the worst season of his career.

I stand corrected thanks

[mrdonkey]

Nm

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Captaincanada80

I think one thing that is being overlooked in the Stamkos debate is the fact that your gaining a top end asset for free. There is obviously going to be the over-payment factor in that equation. Set his true value at whatever number 6.5M-7.5M. If you end up having to pony up 9.5M to get the player essentially which is basically paying 2-3M per year for that free asset.

Much as the thought pattern the previous few years in taking on a bad contract player for a prospect or pick, this will probably work similar.

If you think Stamkos can continue at a resonable pace for the duration of the contact then you do this bearing you have the cap space and limited "bad contracts" in the system.

Sure, but what teams in the NHL aren't either A) a budget team or B) a cap team? That's a bit of a mythical organization you're referring to, imo. Pretty much every team in the NHL is either bound by an internal budget or is spending to the cap (or being prepared to do so) trying to put together a championship team.

[sureLoss]

Flames sure are scouting Dallas' AHL team a lot it seems.

Sean Shapiro @seanshapiro
Scouts from Calgary, Vancouver, Nashville, NJ, Winnipeg, Chicago, Columbus, LA, Pittsburgh and Tampa present for #txstars vs. San Antonio.

[Flames_18_22_12]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Flames sure are scouting Dallas' AHL team a lot it seems.

Sean Shapiro @seanshapiro
Scouts from Calgary, Vancouver, Nashville, NJ, Winnipeg, Chicago, Columbus, LA, Pittsburgh and Tampa present for #txstars vs. San Antonio.

If the rumours of Calgary being interested in cowen are true, I would not be surprised if they were taking a look at oleksiak.

[dammage79]

Campbell, Ritchie and Faksa are ones I like a lot in the Stars system.

[mdubz]

Originally Posted by simmer2

I forgot I'd posted this! apparently some backlash haha.

Horvat and Bennett play similar games, similar age to be in the league, and both have similar point totals.

For the record though, I hate the Canucks.

I've yet to see Horvat use his hands to beat defenders. Sure they both have speed and like to take the puck to the net, but Bennett definitely has a big edge in puck handling.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by mdubz

I've yet to see Horvat use his hands to beat defenders. Sure they both have speed and like to take the puck to the net, but Bennett definitely has a big edge in everything

Fyp

[Cali Panthers Fan]

I think Horvat is likely to project more like Backlund than Monahan or Bennett IMO. If we're looking for a good comparison on the Flames, it's likely a more physical Backlund.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by simmer2

I forgot I'd posted this! apparently some backlash haha.

Horvat and Bennett play similar games, similar age to be in the league, and both have similar point totals.

For the record though, I hate the Canucks.

I suppose you could call a 20 year old, 2nd year player and a 19 year old, 1st year player 'similar' (if you were reaching).

Horvat has never shown the offensive skill that Bennett has.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Campbell, Ritchie and Faksa are ones I like a lot in the Stars system.

I believe there were rumours back at the 2012(?) draft that the Flames we big on Faksa. Different management and coaches on the Flames now, so probably means nothing now though.

[ComixZone]

Kris Russell would be a really good fit for Dallas.

[Harry Lime]

I wonder how Backlund would feel being called a not so physical Horvat. That just doesn't sound very good when you say it out loud.

[Badgers Nose]

I think #11's physical game is fine.

[simmer2]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I suppose you could call a 20 year old, 2nd year player and a 19 year old, 1st year player 'similar' (if you were reaching).

Horvat has never shown the offensive skill that Bennett has.

I hate the Canucks as much as the next guy, but if you take off the Flames Homer glasses, the kid has pretty good skill.

I think Bennett likely had more upside pts wise but I think importance to team both bring a lot.

And I think Horvat upside will be higher than Backlund.

Anyways I'm done giving accolades to the Nucks' haha.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by simmer2

I hate the Canucks as much as the next guy, but if you take off the Flames Homer glasses, the kid has pretty good skill.

I think Bennett likely had more upside pts wise but I think importance to team both bring a lot.

And I think Horvat upside will be higher than Backlund.

Anyways I'm done giving accolades to the Nucks' haha.

You're trying too hard.

And yeah, Horvat is a good player. But he is no Bennett, no matter how hard you want him to be.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

You're trying too hard.

And yeah, Horvat is a good player. But he is no Bennett, no matter how hard you want him to be.

A Bennett/Horvat comparison is probably closer than a Horvat/Backlund comparison though. Backlund is 6 years older and his career years so far are comparable to what Horvat is already doing at 20. Although I agree that Bennett has a higher ceiling than Horvat. Horvat's game is great for a 20 year old, Bennett's game is slightly better than great his and is more than a full calendar year younger.

A better comparison to Horvat's potential might be ex-Canuck Kesler, but without the sliminess.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Campbell, Ritchie and Faksa are ones I like a lot in the Stars system.

Jack Campbell from the East Coast Hockey League? I think I would rather have Olivier Roy.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Jack Campbell from the East Coast Hockey League? I think I would rather have Olivier Roy.

Ooohhh, Okay. I'll just throw out some buzz words then.

Buy Low, Change of scenery, still need organizational goalie depth all the way through from ECHL to NHL. So yeah, THAT Jack Campbell.