Craig's List 2014 Prospects

[Buzzard]

Yeah, I really don't see any chance of the Flames loving Ritchie so much they take him at 4. The little snippet by Steinberg the other day basically sums it up...they'll take whoever is left of the "consensus" picks...which is fine by me.

Having said that it'd be freaking fantastic if Treliving, Burke and Co. could come out of this draft with a consensus top 4, AND somehow swing a deal to pick up a Ritchie at the bottom 6-10 somewhere.

Can't wait for draft day. I hope there's lot's of action. Best hockey day of the year when you're a bottom feeder.

[Monahan23]

Originally Posted by Leo

im glad to see alot of people also like dal colle at 4th

MDC's 7th on my list for CGY.

1. Ekblad
2. Reinhart
3. Draisaitl
4. Bennett
5. Virtanen
6. Ritchie
7. MDC

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Monahan23

MDC's 7th on my list for CGY.

1. Ekblad
2. Reinhart
3. Draisaitl
4. Bennett
5. Virtanen
6. Ritchie
7. MDC

My top group differs from yours:

1. Reinhart
2. Bennett
3. Ekblad
4. Draisaitl
5. Ehlers
6. Dal Colle
7. Nylander
8. Ritchie

[RyZ]

Im sure almost everybodys list is a little bit different outside the top 4

1. Reinhart
2. Ekblad
3. Draisaitl
4. Bennett
5. Dal Colle
6. Virtanen
7. Ritchie
8. Nylander

[ForeverFlameFan]

For Flames' needs:

1. Ekblad
2. Reinhart
3. Bennett
4. Draisaitl
5. Ritchie
6. Virtanen
7. Dal Colle
8. Ehlers
9. Nylander
10. Fleury

[ForeverFlameFan]

Flames finished 4th, pick the last top 4 player, no matter who it is. Does not hurt to add another center in the prospect pool. We're one of the top 4 teams, let's take advantage of that.

Had the Flames finished 5th-7th I would've want Ritchie/Dal Colle/Ehlers

If the Flames finished 8-10, I would have wanted Virtanen or Fleury.


Our drafting spot should be the easiest in the draft, but we're just making it way too difficult for ourselves.

[zoom]

Originally Posted by Matty81

If they want Ritchie (who I am scared to death is Chris Dingman 2.0), they have to trade down unless they are absolutely certain somebody else loves him.

The consensus in almost the entire scouting community is that Ritchie is not a top 4 pick. If he is their guy, at the very least play some poker with the Isles or Nucks and get a 2nd rounder out of it. The Isles seem to be pretty set on Dal Colle or Draisaitl from what I'm reading, so if the Flames start feigning trade talks with a team in the 7-15 range who really wants their guy they should be able to leverage at worst a 3rd rounder.

Looking at the draft pick value chart, swapping #4 OA for Anaheim's #10 and #24 OA is a decent trade (#4 = 53.4 and #10 = 36.5 + #24 = 17 (53.4 vs. 53.5)).

While i think this team is in desperate need of injecting top tier talent, this does allow us to focus on a Fleury, Ritchie, Virtanen and several good prospects at 24. Or use 24 and one of our seconds to get back into the teens.

I bring this up as the new FO might want to infuse the talent pool with 'their type of guys' and they may want to maximize the number of picks.

The draft is fun.

[Enoch Root]

bottom 4 teams (let's not talk like Oiler fans here).

[Roof-Daddy]

Looking back at past draft history, what are the odds that 10 years from now the consensus top 4 guys pre draft end up being the best 4 NHL players taken in this draft?

Pretty low no?

So IMO, people need to relax a wee bit, and quit speaking in absolutes about who the Flames should take with #4. All this "I'm gonna flip out if they take so and so", or "I'm gonna throw my TV out the window if they pass on so and so if he's available" is pretty funny stuff.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by zoom

Looking at the draft pick value chart, swapping #4 OA for Anaheim's #10 and #24 OA is a decent trade (#4 = 53.4 and #10 = 36.5 + #24 = 17 (53.4 vs. 53.5)).

While i think this team is in desperate need of injecting top tier talent, this does allow us to focus on a Fleury, Ritchie, Virtanen and several good prospects at 24. Or use 24 and one of our seconds to get back into the teens.

I bring this up as the new FO might want to infuse the talent pool with 'their type of guys' and they may want to maximize the number of picks.

The draft is fun.

I think that's a fair proposal, but I don't think it makes sense this year. After about 15 or so, the talent pool drops a bit and levels out. We have 2 2nds and 2 3rds and can likely acquire very equitable talent at 34 to what would be there at 24.

So it would be counter-productive, IMO, to drop down in order to acquire that extra 1st.

I would rather get the stud at #4

[Caged Great]

If we trade 4 for 10 + 24, take both Fleury and McKeown or Sanheim and then look at guys like Jacobs, Glover and Dougherty at 34, and a guy like Haydon for 55

Right there, you will have addressed a major hole in the prospects core

[Dorkmaster]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

If we trade 4 for 10 + 24, take both Fleury and McKeown or Sanheim and then look at guys like Jacobs, Glover and Dougherty at 34, and a guy like Haydon for 55

Right there, you will have addressed a major hole in the prospects core

Would be a fair trade, however we'd be missing a pretty big opportunity to add an impact forward. Looking at the top picks, you could get someone with skill and size, something that our prospect pool is also missing.

[Vulcan]

I think we have a fair number of pretty good prospects and we should start going for quality over quantity. That is don't trade down unless the guy you really want is available after the trade. I mostly hate trading down unless we don't have a 2nd and we need to get one. We already have two 2nds so we don't need to deal down.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Flames finished 4th, pick the last top 4 player, no matter who it is. Does not hurt to add another center in the prospect pool. We're one of the top 4 teams, let's take advantage of that.

Had the Flames finished 5th-7th I would've want Ritchie/Dal Colle/Ehlers

If the Flames finished 8-10, I would have wanted Virtanen or Fleury.


Our drafting spot should be the easiest in the draft, but we're just making it way too difficult for ourselves.

Well, 'we' all sure are. I imagine Treliving and co have a plan a few cuts above the musings of the rabble on the internet.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

If we trade 4 for 10 + 24, take both Fleury and McKeown or Sanheim and then look at guys like Jacobs, Glover and Dougherty at 34, and a guy like Haydon for 55

Right there, you will have addressed a major hole in the prospects core

That would be a great 2nd round.

[dammage79]

Maybe it's been Draisaitl all along. The Wolf/Draisaitl thing is a story on the Flames website.
So that's pretty cool. I hope it's Draisaitl. Edmonton needs to stay smaller, I want the Flames to have a Monahan/Draisaitl duo for many years. Good luck stopping that.

http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?...id=DL|CGY|home

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Maybe it's been Draisaitl all along. The Wolf/Draisaitl thing is a story on the Flames website.
So that's pretty cool. I hope it's Draisaitl. Edmonton needs to stay smaller, I want the Flames to have a Monahan/Draisaitl duo for many years. Good luck stopping that.

Do you know if the Flames have a skating coach? If not, why not? They have a goaltending coach. If we take Reinhart or Draisaitl, attention to improved skating will pay huge dividends down the road.

[Sandman]

I don't really want to create a negative vibe here, and i know people have strong opinions on the subject, but like a few others i have a feeling that Ritchie is the guy they are looking at. I had the same feeling when we took Jankowski.

[dammage79]

The Ritchie thing to me at least, is paranoia from fans, and smoke and mirrors from Burke. Of course he likes Ritchie, he also likes to stop cutting his hair when media notice too.

Like others have said, if the pick was 5-9, sure, maybe. but not at 4 and they are not trading down the only top 5 pick they've ever had.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

Do you know if the Flames have a skating coach? If not, why not? They have a goaltending coach. If we take Reinhart or Draisaitl, attention to improved skating will pay huge dividends down the road.

They had Barry Karns during the Darryl Sutter era. Appears he now works for Minnesota.

Don't know if they have a current one.