The 2016 US American Election Thread

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Haha, there's no way in hell he has any LGBT supporters. Kellyanne probably did up the flag herself and gave it to him to hold up.

I'm sure he has some but I would doubt the few that do know much about Pence.

[ernie]

Originally Posted by troutman

Pence supported electroshock gay conversion therapy. Deplorable.

He is. I wish the Clinton campaign had spent some time tearing into him to remind people this is who they get for a president when Trump gets bored.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I imagine the words "rigged!" and "fixed" will be commonplace in the Trump cult today.

America’s labor market continues to show signs of gradual strengthening, with newly released data showing that the economy added 161,000 jobs last month. Annual wage growth surged to levels not seen since before the financial crisis, while the unemployment rate dipped to 4.9 percent in October from 5.0 percent the previous month, data from the Labor Department showed.

Economists surveyed by Bloomberg had expected the U.S. to add 173,000 new jobs in October, roughly on pace with average monthly job gains over the course of the year.

The final piece of economic data to be released before the presidential election on Tuesday, the jobs report showed an economy that is steadily emerging from the shadow of the Great Recession. Analysts said Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and Republican candidate Donald Trump could seize on varying aspects of that data to make their closing arguments in the campaign.

The labor-force participation rate was 62.8 in October, roughly flat from 62.9 percent the previous month. The Labor Department also revised its estimates for job creation in August and September, with the combined total rising by 44,000.

The strongest sign for the economy was the substantial increase in hourly wages, which indicates that growth has helped absorb slack in the labor market, and that employers are competing more to hire and retain workers. Average hourly earnings of private-sector workers rose 2.8 percent in October from a year earlier, the fastest growth since 2008.

The biggest addition of jobs came in professional and business services, followed by healthcare and financial activities.

A separate report released Friday morning showed a sharp contraction in the U.S. trade deficit in September, with the trade gap in goods and services shrinking 9.9 percent from the previous month.

The employment figures, which come on the heels of an unexpectedly strong gain in U.S. economic growth in the third quarter, are likely to further lift expectations for the Federal Reserve to raise interest rates at its upcoming mid-December meeting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...business_pop_b

[ernie]

I think the Melania Trump speech was a misstep. It was a straight out troll job from the Trump campaign IMO as with much of the campaigns antics. They have managed to keep him focused-ish the last week or so and then decide to bring up the very thing he does that puts off and reminds people of who he actually is? They spent a good chunk of the day having to defend that speech given the candidate IS an internet bully (and a IRL bully). Seems a stupid chance to take.

[photon]

Officials from two European countries tell Newsweek that Trump’s comments about Russia’s hacking have alarmed several NATO partners because it suggests he either does not believe the information he receives in intelligence briefings, does not pay attention to it, does not understand it or is misleading the American public for unknown reasons. One British official says members of that government who are aware of the scope of Russia’s cyberattacks both in Western Europe and America found Trump’s comments “quite disturbing” because they fear that, if elected, the Republican presidential nominee would continue to ignore information gathered by intelligence services in the formulation of U.S. foreign policy.

Trump’s behavior, however, has at times concerned the Russians, leading them to revise their hacking and disinformation strategy. For example, when Trump launched into an inexplicable attack on the parents of a Muslim-American soldier who died in combat, the Kremlin assumed the Republican nominee was showing himself psychologically unfit to be president and would be forced by his party to withdraw from the race. As a result, Moscow put its hacking campaign temporarily on hold, ending the distribution of documents until Trump stabilized, both personally and in the polls, according to reports provided to Western intelligence.

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump...-europe-516895

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by ernie

I think the Melania Trump speech was a misstep. It was a straight out troll job from the Trump campaign IMO as with much of the campaigns antics. They have managed to keep him focused-ish the last week or so and then decide to bring up the very thing he does that puts off and reminds people of who he actually is? They spent a good chunk of the day having to defend that speech given the candidate IS an internet bully (and a IRL bully). Seems a stupid chance to take.

maybe. people have been saying that as first lady she will do nothing so she had to present an initiative at some point

[Flabbibulin]

Just watched this Steve Pieczenik (spelling?) video on the Clinton coup/Clinton's are pedophiles that seems to be trending... are these people for real? Maybe I am just naive about how many idiots there are in the entire world, but it seems the US has a lot more nut jobs than most countries. I'm hoping they are just a vocal minority and give a false impression of numbers by camping on the internet and pouncing on any type of story that can be tied to a conspiracy theory.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

maybe. people have been saying that as first lady she will do nothing so she had to present an initiative at some point

Stupid question, but now that the U.S. is quite possibly getting its first female president, what will Bill Clinton be called... the First Man?

[photon]

So this whole FBI thing is weird.

Robert Mercer is the money behind the SuperPAC that Kellyanne Conway worked for before going to work for Trump.

Mercer also funds Breitbart. Steve Bannon of course was at the top of Breitbart before taking leave to head up the Trump campaign. Bannon is also executive chairman and co-founder of the Government Accountability Institute, a non-profit who's goal is to build criminal cases against political figures.

The book that that some of the FBI agents used as a source of info to drive their look into Clinton is called Clinton Cash, written by Peter Schweizer. Schweizer is an editor at Breitbart, and the book was published with help by the Government Accountability Institute. Bannon also co-wrote and published a movie based on the book.

Part of the FBI line agents have gone full Breitbart, trying to investigate Clinton based on a book of fantasies. The agents get told they can't get more aggressive because the book as evidence doesn't convince the senior FBI and DoJ people, so the agents instead leak rumour and innuendo to Fox about a pending indictment over pay to play and the Clinton Foundation.

And Trump, who'll believe anything Bannon says, repeats these things in a Presidential campaign speech as truth, things that Mercer, Bannon et al made up in the first place!

[photon]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Stupid question, but now that the U.S. is quite possibly getting its first female president, what will Bill Clinton be called the First Man?

First Husband? I think Bill floated the idea of First Volunteer, which I like the idea of but sounds really hokey.

[Hemi-Cuda]

The big takeaway from this election is that facts just don't matter anymore. You can say whatever you want in American politics now and not be held accountable, it's all ran purely on emotion now

[photon]

Second-lowest jobless rate in 40 years and the fastest wage growth since the recession, 4 more years of Obama sounds fine. 73 straight months of job growth, over 11 million jobs added during Obama's time, while almost 400k jobs lost under Bush.

But Clinton's emails will be all over the news again.

Meanwhile, not a lot else going on today...

[troutman]

Clinton: Stevie Wonder, Jay Z
Trump: Scott Baio

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Stupid question, but now that the U.S. is quite possibly getting its first female president, what will Bill Clinton be called... the First Man?

The First Gentleman.

They don't call President's wives the first woman, or the first wife.

But in his case, he likely still retains moniker of President, presumably, like other former Presidents.

More curious about his secret service name. Not FLOTUS obviously. FGOTUS doesn't work either.

[photon]

I think this article was already posted mentioning Giuliani and the FBI. In addition th Giuliani's apparent foreknowledge of the FBI leaks, there's this one part...

“The other rumor that I get is that there’s a kind of revolution going on inside the FBI about the original conclusion [not to charge Clinton] being completely unjustified and almost a slap in the face to the FBI’s integrity,” said Giuliani. “I know that from former agents. I know that even from a few active agents.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...bi-fanboy.html

Then while on an interview he's careful to say he hasn't spoken with active agents.



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[MolsonInBothHands]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Stupid question, but now that the U.S. is quite possibly getting its first female president, what will Bill Clinton be called... the First Man?

I always thought First Lady's Man would fit nicely.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by troutman

Clinton: Stevie Wonder, Jay Z
Trump: Scott Baio

What happened to Meatloaf? Is he still drunk and hungover from his Romney days?

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Stupid question, but now that the U.S. is quite possibly getting its first female president, what will Bill Clinton be called... the First Man?

Well, there is what he will be called and what he could be called...

Considering that spouses have used the word "Lady" I would propose that the male counterpart to lady is "Gentleman" so FGOTUS strikes me as what they could call him... but I suspect they will simply call him what they've called him ever since he left office "Former President".

I think they'll kick that can down the street until they have a female President whose spouse doesn't already have a title conferred by public office.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

The big takeaway from this election is that facts just don't matter anymore. You can say whatever you want in American politics now and not be held accountable, it's all ran purely on emotion now

Not just American Politics. This is the era of post truth politics e.g. Brexit

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

More curious about his secret service name. Not FLOTUS obviously. FGOTUS doesn't work either.

Secret Service names aren't the title. B. Clinton's was "Eagle" when he was in office (H. Clinton's was "Evergreen").