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Old 01-15-2017, 08:37 AM   #5261
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Is the Abortion bill a Federal law? Something the State can take precedence over?
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:59 AM   #5262
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Newspapers really need to try as often as possible to include Trump quotes in their headlines. Anytime that can add a Wrong or Sad, they should.

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Old 01-15-2017, 09:37 AM   #5263
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I mentioned this repeatedly during the election. As big an ####### that Trump is, he really is a distraction to the things going on that really matter. Congress is where things matter. Because congress has the power to make law. The president doesn't. And this is a problem because congress is driven by ideology, and is bought and sold by special interests.

This bill is a travesty, and will be passed, basically outlawing abortion and pushing the United States backward 70 years. This bill is a social death sentence for any woman who gets knocked up without money to support herself and her baby, that will now be a burden on both the mother and society. This is horrible on so many levels that I can't believe anyone with a brain would support it.

But a bill that was recently defeated is a much more worrisome and a bellwether moment. Look at the bill voted down which would allow Americans access to cheap drugs through Canadian suppliers. There were many Dems who supported this bill, including Cory Booker, a guy many consider the future of the Democratic party. Why did he vote against it? Because he's in the pocket of Big Pharma. To me, this was the indication of how screwed we are.

I will say there is one hope left for the average guy. Demand a constitutional amendment allowing for the recall of representatives, both in the House and Senate. Put these clowns we send to Washington on notice that they answer to the people, and when they don't perform according to our demands, they will lose their jobs and access to power. That is our last hope. If we can't get that done, we're screwed. For good.
On the Pharma bill the US shouldn't really allow imports of drugs produced by foreign countries under different patent laws. Really they should fix their patent laws to better balance profits of drug companies with cheaper access to meds.

Don't agree with you in recall either because it's extremist organizations that will use it. Think of endless reelections on NRA issues for every non NRA rep in every state.
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Old 01-15-2017, 10:21 AM   #5264
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A friend of mine said the problem with Bernie's bill is that it solves nothing and Canada wouldn't be a fan of millions of American's buying up Canadian drugs because it will cause prices to rise for Canadians.

Also American's basically subsidize the cheap drugs we get in the EU and Canada:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...ope-and-canada
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Old 01-15-2017, 10:35 AM   #5265
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A friend of mine said the problem with Bernie's bill is that it solves nothing and Canada wouldn't be a fan of millions of American's buying up Canadian drugs because it will cause prices to rise for Canadians.

Also American's basically subsidize the cheap drugs we get in the EU and Canada:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...ope-and-canada
That article says the opposite.

Canada or the EU paying more for drugs wouldn't alter the price of drugs in the US. It would make the Drug companies more money which would lead to either higher share price and dividends, more competition or more investment in the creation of new drugs. But changing the price in Canada does not change the price in the US so they do not subsidize us.
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Old 01-15-2017, 10:40 AM   #5266
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Here's what he wrote, he's loathes Bernie Sanders and his followers, he was a huge Hillary supporter, only watches MSNBC, CNN, so he is the atypical establishment democrat....

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Importing pharmaceuticals from Canada is the stupidest, most ignorant liberal idea I've heard in a long time. Yes, we need to fix drug prices in this country, because sadly, Big Pharma needs to make all of its profits from the USA, since drugs are so heavily regulated elsewhere. Sorry, but that's a fact. And if you want to cut drug profits to 0, you'll never get another science based medication ever.
Here's the inane ignorance of those of you pushing for Canada drugs:
1. Canada does not have independent manufacturing of drugs. They are almost all imported, mostly from the USA.
2. Canada negotiates with Big Pharma to set prices for a capped amount of drugs. This is a complex negotiation where the Health Ministry must estimate the amount of a particular drug will be purchased by its citizens.
3. Canada is not negotiating for the ####ing United States.
So what happens? First, American purchases of Canadian pharmaceuticals will cause Canada to hit its caps for drugs. That will cause their prices to ####ing skyrocket? I know you liberal Americans are quite selfish, so you want us to buy Canadian drugs so that their citizens will be charged more? Or can't afford the prices when they skyrocket?
Since Canada is actually run by intelligent liberals, as opposed to ours, they will block Americans from buying it. They're going to protect their citizens not some lazy liberals from America who couldn't be bothered to vote for Clinton and get things done right.
There is no way that Canada would allow Americans to buy its drugs, except in very small ways. All they have to do is demand that Americans have a Canadian prescription (so you'll have to pay for a Canadian doctor), and then charge a huge export tax for anyone with a US Passport buying Canadian drugs.
I'm sick and tired of stupid liberals. Going after Cory Booker, who actually has a pair of steel balls compared to all other Democrats, makes no sense to me.
And get your ####ing facts right liberals. Sometimes, I'm embarrassed to actually be a liberal."
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On the Pharma bill the US shouldn't really allow imports of drugs produced by foreign countries under different patent laws.
This would also never happen because there would be a huge excise tax applied to the purchases such that it'd be no cheaper than buying them the current way. That bill is empty legislative rhetoric intended to appeal to an ignorant base who don't understand international trade.
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TV listing from Scotland...

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I hope the golden snowflakes who support Trump are ready for America to return to it's place as the world's preeminent punchline. Something tells me they'll go on a bunch of triggered meltdowns though.
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Old 01-15-2017, 11:43 AM   #5271
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On the Pharma bill the US shouldn't really allow imports of drugs produced by foreign countries under different patent laws. Really they should fix their patent laws to better balance profits of drug companies with cheaper access to meds.
And where is the incentive for this reform? Where is the incentive for drug companies to engage in this fair balance between profits and access to meds? Seems to me we've just seen a couple instances of just the opposite. If you can't change patent law, then change laws which allow access to FDA approved medications to the marketplace. For a country that screams from the rooftop about being the last bastion of capitalism, they sure don't believe in open markets.

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Don't agree with you in recall either because it's extremist organizations that will use it. Think of endless reelections on NRA issues for every non NRA rep in every state.
Yeah, that's a big concern. But, we have a ####ty system where representatives have no accountability to the people except during election cycles they control. The control needs to go back in the hands of the people. If a district is not happy with their representative we should have the right to fire him/her and replace them with someone more reflective of the constituent's desires. If you have recall possibility it makes injecting money into politics that much more difficult. If it is discovered a representative is on the take, or representing his donors more so than his constituents, that guy should be removed from office. If politics becomes this responsive, it might help get the money out of politics because big donors won't be able to make these huge investments, knowing their bought and paid for politician can be removed from office by his constituents. I'd much rather roll the dice on the NRA, and their 5 million members, being able to control elections than continue with the ####ty representation we currently have, thank you.
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Old 01-15-2017, 01:22 PM   #5272
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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump
Thank you to Bob Woodward who said, "That is a garbage document...it never should have been presented...Trump's right to be upset (angry)...

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump
about that...Those Intelligence chiefs made a mistake here, & when people make mistakes, they should APOLOGIZE." Media should also apologize


We're going to continue seeing this over the next four years. It's everybody else's fault, not his..........everyone should apologize to him, he doesn't have to apologize to anyone.........everything he does is the best, everything everyone else does is a disaster.

Boring and predictable.
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Old 01-15-2017, 01:39 PM   #5273
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He feels even the smallest criticism against him as a deep wound, and can't move past it unless he resolves it in his view. That's why he claims to be strong, and admires people like Putin, but in fact he's more insecure than most people, he can't put something in perspective.

He himself said "When I'm wounded, I go after people hard and I try to unwound myself"

So he devalues whoever/whatever wronged him, and threatens to retaliate. He is almost incapable of not doing it.
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Old 01-15-2017, 01:40 PM   #5274
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Trump doesn't realize or doesn't care that every stupid tweet when he takes on the media or SNL just adds gasoline to the fire that is his feud with these people. It'll get out of control soon if he doesn't stop, and we know he won't. Part of me wishes he'd stop but then part of me wants him to continue just for the comedy value.
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Old 01-15-2017, 01:41 PM   #5275
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Not even hiding it. At least he's being honest, he doesn't care.


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Chaffetz, who led charge against HRC/Obama, says on ABC he's "not going to go on this fishing expedition" about Trump's potential conflicts
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Old 01-15-2017, 01:48 PM   #5276
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“The head of the government ethics ought to be careful, because that person is becoming extremely political,” Reince Priebus said on ABC News’ “This Week.”

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“I'm not so sure what this person at Government Ethics — what sort of standing he has anymore in giving these opinions,” Priebus said.


Yeah how dare the head of Government Ethics talk about ethics of government.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2946978

"Be careful"?? Or what?
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I hope the golden snowflakes who support Trump are ready for America to return to it's place as the world's preeminent punchline. Something tells me they'll go on a bunch of triggered meltdowns though.
I hope they can find a safe space to work all those feelings out.
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After reading classified Russian hacking doc & @realDonaldTrump offensive tweets to @repjohnlewis I will not be attending the Inauguration.

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And now for Trump's weekly Twitter meltdown over SNL...

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@NBCNews is bad but Saturday Night Live is the worst of NBC. Not funny, cast is terrible, always a complete hit job. Really bad television!
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