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Old 08-20-2024, 01:20 PM   #5241
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Lets say hypothetically Mcdavid tells them he wont extend, and will only go to Toronto. What does that deal even look like? assuming he has 1 year left on his contract
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Old 08-20-2024, 01:22 PM   #5242
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Lets say hypothetically Mcdavid tells them he wont extend, and will only go to Toronto. What does that deal even look like? assuming he has 1 year left on his contract
If that's the case, the Leafs will just sit and wait to get Mavi for free in July and the Oilers will get nothing.

The Oilers can't trade Mavi away because he has a NMC.
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Lets say hypothetically Mcdavid tells them he wont extend, and will only go to Toronto. What does that deal even look like? assuming he has 1 year left on his contract
thats a great question


5 picks? (whatever Toronto has in the first 3 rounds in the subsequent 2 years)
prospects and something to ease the cap hit?
A couple cases of Steam Whistle?
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Lets say hypothetically Mcdavid tells them he wont extend, and will only go to Toronto. What does that deal even look like? assuming he has 1 year left on his contract
It will likely be similar to the Tavares situation. Leafs didn't have to trade anything because they knew it was a done deal that he would be signing with them.
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If that's the case, the Leafs will just sit and wait to get Mavi for free in July and the Oilers will get nothing.

The Oilers can't trade Mavi away because he has a NMC.
might be wise not to let him go to the open market. somebody will offer him 20%
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Lets say hypothetically Mcdavid tells them he wont extend, and will only go to Toronto. What does that deal even look like? assuming he has 1 year left on his contract
Honestly, I think the Oilers still try to go all in and walk him to free agency. Their future is already mortgaged so much that a long rebuild will be necessary after the McDavid era. Whatever GM they have now likely won't be around long after McDavid leaves regardless of whether they trade him or let him walk.
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I’m wondering how long it will take for pissy to be outed as a mercenary when he doesn’t take a “play with the oilerz” discount?
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I’m wondering how long it will take for pissy to be outed as a mercenary when he doesn’t take a “play with the oilerz” discount?
I wonder if Jim Matheson berates him publicly.

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I do wonder if the McLeod trade really helped with Broberg and Holloway's decision too.

McLeod took the team friendly 2 x $2.1M coming off what was a bit of a breakout season for him.

Then less than 12 months later he found himself traded to Buffalo.

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Using Points per Game...

JAGR
  • Won the Cup in his first two seasons, at ages 19 and 20.
  • The Cup wins came in his 21st and 14th highest scoring seasons.
  • His highest-scoring season was when he was 23.
  • Of his 10 highest-scoring seasons, all were after his Cup wins.

YZERMAN
  • Won the Cup at ages 31, 32, and 36.
  • The Cup wins came in his 12th, 17th and 16th highest scoring seasons.
  • His highest-scoring season was when he was 23.
  • Of his 10 highest-scoring seasons, all were before his first Cup win.

SAKIC
  • Won the Cup at ages 26 and 31.
  • His Cup winning years were also the two highest scoring seasons of his career.
  • Of his 10 highest-scoring seasons, 5 were before his first Cup win, 2 were between the Cup wins, and 1 was after his Cup wins.

LEMIEUX
  • Won the Cup at ages 24 and 25.
  • The Cup wins came in his 9th and 6th highest scoring seasons.
  • The highest-scoring season of his career was the year after the back-to-back Cups, when he was 26.
  • Of his 10 highest-scoring seasons, 5 were before he won the Cup and 3 were after.

GRETZKY
  • Won the Cup at ages 22, 23, 25 and 26.
  • The Cup wins came in his 1st, 4th, 7th, and 6th highest scoring seasons.
  • Of his 10 highest-scoring seasons, 3 were before he won the Cup, 1 was in the year between Cups, and 2 were after.


Of the 13 Cups won by these players, only 4 were won by the players when they were older than McDavid and Draisaitl will be next season. 3 of those were won by Yzerman after he completely re-invented his game to be less focused on scoring. Too bad the Oilers hired Stan Bowman and not Scotty.
To add to this Yzerman and Sakic were playing on pre-cap powerhouses. They were the true veteran leaders on teams that you couldn't put together right now with the salary cap.
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To add to this Yzerman and Sakic were playing on pre-cap powerhouses. They were the true veteran leaders on teams that you couldn't put together right now with the salary cap.
Totally OT, but I'm soo happy I got to see Sakic player his last game at the Dome.
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Totally OT, but I'm soo happy I got to see Sakic player his last game at the Dome.
I get that. I got to see Lemieux's last game in Calgary (oddly enough 3 seasons before he retired, he was injured a lot and the Pens only came to Calgary once every 2 years back then)

He scored 4 points, it was such a treat to see.
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I get that. I got to see Lemieux's last game in Calgary (oddly enough 3 seasons before he retired, he was injured a lot and the Pens only came to Calgary once every 2 years back then)

He scored 4 points, it was such a treat to see.
I got to see Guy Lafleur's last game in Calgary, at the end of his comeback with the Nordiques. He was pretty much washed and I don't remember him doing much of note, but it was still very cool to see. The wheels were still there, amazingly enough.

Though it was slightly disturbing seeing the long blond flow on the back half of his head, and the front half completely bald.
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No chance Pissy signs with Edmonton. He's going to get his retirement deal somewhere warm.
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Old 08-20-2024, 06:14 PM   #5256
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No chance Pissy signs with Edmonton. He's going to get his retirement deal somewhere warm.
Like in LA so the Hallmark actress can score a bit part on the 90210 reboot?
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Bit of a cross post, but when the oilies get off to their crap start, how long until Quenneville is behind the bench?
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Old 08-20-2024, 06:42 PM   #5258
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Bit of a cross post, but when the oilies get off to their crap start, how long until Quenneville is behind the bench?
10 games
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The mental gymnastics by Seravalli on Flames talk today was nauseating. Somehow the oilers are soooo smart and better today
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The mental gymnastics by Seravalli on Flames talk today was nauseating. Somehow the oilers are soooo smart and better today
Seravalli is an oilers jock sniffer not an insider.
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