Israel declares war on Hamas

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

How about you find some quotes and context instead of just continuing labelling someone. In this case, just like the rest, it was obvious (and they very respectfully responded to what they wrote). In each other case, they just went after me instead of reading what they wrote. Q actually doubled down and you were not just silent about it, you are now piling on me. Company you keep, you know?

What did I double down with? Antisemitism? Or "Antisemitism"?

[Zevo]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...b623a797&ei=16

Interview with the son of Hamas co-founder Mosab Hassan Yousef.

Yousef discussed his experience of studying at a UNRWA high school in the West Bank and explained that the education he received there was one where hatred towards Jews was encouraged.

"Everywhere you go, there is hatred towards the Jewish people and Israel. You are taught hatred in mosques, schools, the street, and at home," he stated when reflecting on his education at the UNRWA high school.

Yousef also had a warning for the Arab world, stating that "the Arab world needs to pay attention to the danger from within. Hamas doesn't care about human lives. They sacrifice the lives of children and innocent children to achieve cheap political goals.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

How about you find some quotes and context instead of just continuing labelling someone.

The hypocrisy.

Originally Posted by Bagor

So back up your baseless disgusting accusations.

1. What vileness have I peddled in this thread?
2. What have I posted that suggested I have an appetite for terror?

You're always the victim when all you have is baseless personal attacks.

So... bout that quotes and context?

[Leondros]

Originally Posted by Zevo

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...b623a797&ei=16

Interview with the son of Hamas co-founder Mosab Hassan Yousef.

Yousef discussed his experience of studying at a UNRWA high school in the West Bank and explained that the education he received there was one where hatred towards Jews was encouraged.

"Everywhere you go, there is hatred towards the Jewish people and Israel. You are taught hatred in mosques, schools, the street, and at home," he stated when reflecting on his education at the UNRWA high school.

Yousef also had a warning for the Arab world, stating that "the Arab world needs to pay attention to the danger from within. Hamas doesn't care about human lives. They sacrifice the lives of children and innocent children to achieve cheap political goals.

Okay, Hamas is bad. We already know this? What is the point in sharing this? Sometimes I feel like you radical Israel supporters share these types of pieces just to justify the killing of thousands of Palestinians. Because they have been raised to hate Jews it makes Israel's current campaign justified? Just because someone doesn't like you does not give you a right to kill them.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Zevo

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...b623a797&ei=16

Interview with the son of Hamas co-founder Mosab Hassan Yousef.

Yousef discussed his experience of studying at a UNRWA high school in the West Bank and explained that the education he received there was one where hatred towards Jews was encouraged.

"Everywhere you go, there is hatred towards the Jewish people and Israel. You are taught hatred in mosques, schools, the street, and at home," he stated when reflecting on his education at the UNRWA high school.

Yousef also had a warning for the Arab world, stating that "the Arab world needs to pay attention to the danger from within. Hamas doesn't care about human lives. They sacrifice the lives of children and innocent children to achieve cheap political goals.

.....and money.

The leaders of Hamas hoard lots and lots of money.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Leondros

What is the point in sharing this? Sometimes I feel like you radical Israel supporters share these types of pieces just to justify the killing of thousands of Palestinians.

That is exactly his motive.
But it's important to note that they don't hate Palestinians.
They just like slaughtering them.

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by Bagor

That is exactly his motive.
But it's important to note that they don't hate Palestinians.
They just like slaughtering them.

Only the ones that join or support Hamas. Nice try though!

[Leondros]

Originally Posted by Zevo

Only the ones that join or support Hamas. Nice try though!

So to be clear, you are supportive of killing children who have been indoctrinated to support Hamas?

Could you imagine if this was the stance for any other with a similar government such as Chad, Rwanda, or Sudan?

[PepsiFree]

Yeah, given the influence Hamas has on the region and how Israel itself has helped strengthen and promote that influence, I’m not sure that turning around and issuing a death sentence for anyone who has succumbed to it makes a lot of good moral sense. Especially when a lot of them are children.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Zevo

Only the ones that join or support Hamas. Nice try though!

Do share with us how you differentiate.
Is waving a white flag the new sign of support for Hamas?

[Leondros]

I cannot find anywhere that Israel has provided anything to substantiate their UNRWA claims at this point. I think this is important given how much impact this has on funding and further the starvation of the Palestinian people.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/unr...nada-1.7107785

Government sources tell CBC that Israel still has not shared evidence with Canada to substantiate its claim that 12 employees of UNRWA were involved in some capacity in the October 7 attack on Israel by Hamas and the affiliated group Islamic Jihad.

Britain's Channel Four News earlier this week obtained a copy of a dossier that the government of Israel shared with the U.K. government, which also cut funding to UNRWA.

Channel Four reported that the dossier was only six pages long. The news service said it rehashes long-standing Israeli government complaints about UNRWA and alleges the involvement of UNRWA staff in the Oct 7 attack, but "provides no evidence" to back up Israel's explosive allegations against the agency.

French public broadcaster France 24 also had access to the Israeli report, which it compared to the notorious "dodgy dossier" of intelligence claims about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction that led the U.K. government to join the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Leondros

I cannot find anywhere that Israel has provided anything to substantiate their UNRWA claims at this point. I think this is important given how much impact this has on funding and further the starvation of the Palestinian people.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/unr...nada-1.7107785

This is not evidence provided by Israel, but hopefully it helps you understand why funding has been cut to UNRWA.

https://unwatch.org/the-case-against-unrwa/

Notwithstanding the repeated denials by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) and its insistence that it has zero tolerance for hatred and antisemitism, UN Watch continues to find abhorrent antisemitism and support for jihadi terrorism by UNRWA staff on social media. This report details how UNRWA teachers in a 3,000-member UNRWA staff Telegram group cheered and celebrated Hamas’s October 7th massacre while at the same time asking when their UNRWA salaries will be paid. The UNRWA staff in the group shared photos and video footage of those events and prayed for the terrorists’ success and for Israel’s destruction, in clear violation of UN rules.

You gotta think for 15 countries to cut funding that they have credible evidence to support their claims.

[Leondros]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

This is not evidence provided by Israel, but hopefully it helps you understand why funding has been cut to UNRWA.

https://unwatch.org/the-case-against-unrwa/




You gotta think for 15 countries to cut funding that they have credible evidence to support their claims.

The article specifically is stating that Britain, France AND Canada all have NOT seen credible evidence...

Funding was cut as the direct result of the below, NOT because people were "praying" and "cheering" the terrorists attack. Stop making stuff up...

https://nationalpost.com/news/demand...-unrwa-funding

This follows an announcement by the U.S government Friday that it was immediately pausing funding for the the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA), after evidence presented by the Israeli government this week alleged 12 of the agency’s employees took part in the Hamas-led attack, in which terrorists murdered over 1,000 Israelis, mostly civilians.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by Zevo

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...b623a797&ei=16

Interview with the son of Hamas co-founder Mosab Hassan Yousef.

Yousef discussed his experience of studying at a UNRWA high school in the West Bank and explained that the education he received there was one where hatred towards Jews was encouraged.

"Everywhere you go, there is hatred towards the Jewish people and Israel. You are taught hatred in mosques, schools, the street, and at home," he stated when reflecting on his education at the UNRWA high school.

Yousef also had a warning for the Arab world, stating that "the Arab world needs to pay attention to the danger from within. Hamas doesn't care about human lives. They sacrifice the lives of children and innocent children to achieve cheap political goals.

Hamas are evil, no doubt about that. But should they ever return to a position where they are designing their curriculum, they may include within it study of this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68249962

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Leondros

The article specifically is stating that Britain, France AND Canada all have NOT seen credible evidence...

Funding was cut as the direct result of the below, NOT because people were "praying" and "cheering" the terrorists attack. Stop making stuff up...

https://nationalpost.com/news/demand...-unrwa-funding

Funding was cut way back in 2010. Unfortunately, we resumed funding in 2016. Mistake by our government for sure.

This is not new news. I am not making anything up. Thai article from 2019.


https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...inian-refugees

The Canadian government is “concerned” by allegations of wrongdoing at a controversial United Nations agency that administers humanitarian aid to Palestinian refugees, but officials have fallen short of saying whether or not future funding will be suspended.

Serious allegations including sexual misconduct and nepotism have been directed at top officials at the UN’s Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA).

After international news reports that the UN was investigating its own agency for severe mismanagement, Switzerland and the Netherlands both announced this week they would withhold funding.

Stephen Harper’s Conservative government had cut annual funding to the organization in 2010 because of allegations it had links to Hamas, a nationalist Palestinian group listed as a terrorist organization in Canada. In 2016, citing humanitarian needs, Justin Trudeau’s Liberal government reinstated funding to UNRWA. It has committed $110 million since then, including a $50 million contribution in October.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Funding was cut way back in 2010. Unfortunately, we resumed funding in 2016. Mistake by our government for sure.

This is not new news. I am not making anything up. Thai article from 2019.


https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...inian-refugees

That’s unfortunate, considering we’re discussing new news.

[Bagor]

Concerned by "allegations".

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

That’s unfortunate, considering we’re discussing new news.

Do you think Canada should have pulled its funding from UNRWA? If not, why?

[Leondros]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

That’s unfortunate, considering we’re discussing new news.

Is this guy for real? He then proceeds to quote a 2019 article that brought up issues of sexual misconduct and providing jobs to family members as the crux of stopping financial support? You cannot make this stuff up!

Serious allegations including sexual misconduct and nepotism have been directed at top officials at the UN’s Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA).

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Concerned by "allegations".

These are not allegations.

This report details how UNRWA teachers in a 3,000-member UNRWA staff Telegram group cheered and celebrated Hamas’s October 7th massacre while at the same time asking when their UNRWA salaries will be paid. The UNRWA staff in the group shared photos and video footage of those events and prayed for the terrorists’ success and for Israel’s destruction, in clear violation of UN rules.

Do you think Canada should be funding UNRWA knowing where the money is going?