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Old 03-02-2017, 08:23 PM   #5221
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Sergey Kislyak, the least memorable man in the world

He has spoken to senators.
He has spoken to generals, both regular and soon-to-be-attorney.
But as soon as he speaks his words vanish, as if they had never been.
No one can definitively state that they were in the room with him at any time. (This must create certain difficulties in his job as Russia’s ambassador to the United States.)
His name is Sergey Kislyak, and he is the Most Forgettable Man in the World.
Pictures of him show a corpulent replica of Nikita Khrushchev. But these pictures apparently correspond to a man that no one has ever met. No one he has ever met or talked to seems to remember him. Not Michael Flynn. Not Attorney General Jeff Sessions. No one. Dementors speak of him with reverence, as the mere allusion to his presence removes not only happy memories but all memories of any kind.
He has made many phone calls. But it is only with great difficulty that intelligence agencies were able to make any record of these calls. His voice, like a tree falling alone in a Siberian forest, never makes a sound.
The second he meets with anyone, this meeting vanishes from their memories and their testimony. After meeting with him, senators will shake their watches and say, “But Sofia, I was supposed to meet the Russian ambassador two hours ago!” and Sofia will say, “He just came out of your office, sir.”
He is a paradox of space and time.
He once slept on a memory-foam mattress and left no impression whatsoever.
Pigeons often fly directly into him, mistaking him for empty space.
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The Trump administration says Attorney General Jeff Sessions was acting as a then-U.S. senator when he talked to Russia’s ambassador at an event during last year’s Republican National Convention in Cleveland, but Mr. Sessions paid for convention travel expenses out of his own political funds and he spoke about Donald Trump’s campaign at the event, according to a person at the event and campaign-finance records.

Mr. Sessions made comments related to Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign at a Heritage Foundation event during the Republican convention in July, when he met with Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak, according to a person at the event in Cleveland.

Mr. Sessions on Thursday said he would recuse himself from involvement in any probe related to the 2016 presidential campaign, following disclosures that he met with the Russian ambassador during the convention, and later in his Senate office in Washington.

Interactions between U.S. senators and foreign ambassadors are relatively common. But Mr. Sessions has come under fire for not disclosing his contacts with Mr. Kislyak during his Senate confirmation hearing to become attorney general. Democratic lawmakers have accused him of misleading Congress and called on him to resign.
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So it appears that Mike Pence and Scott Pruitt used a private email server to conduct government business

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Cybersecurity experts say Pence’s emails were likely just as insecure as Clinton’s. While there has been speculation about whether Clinton's emails were hacked, Pence’s account was actually compromised last summer by a scammer who sent an email to his contacts claiming Pence and his wife were stranded in the Philippines and in urgent need of money.
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To summarize:
1. Pence used a private email account to conduct government business, just like Clinton.
2. The emails contained discussions about "sensitive matters and homelands security issues."
3. Pence' private emails were hidden from public records requests, just like Clinton.
4. Pence's private email was hacked, eliminating the "but her homebrew server" distinction without a difference. The account was compromised in June, yet Pence never disclosed the breach or the fact that he had a private account that he used for state business.
5. Pence routinely criticized Clinton's private sever throughout the campaign, including saying that "Clinton operated in such a way to keep her emails [ ] out of the public reach, public accountability."
6. ####ing hypocrites.
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In addition to Sessions, apparently former Trump campaign manager Carter Page, Campaign officials Paul Manafort, and JD Gordon all spoke with Russian intelligence during the Trump campaign.

CNN is quoted as saying it's time for a Watergate-style investigative panel to look into Trumps involvement with Russia.

Given how much of the Trump dossier information is turning out to be true, how long until someone leaks Trumps pee pee video out the to the public?

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Attorney General Jeff Sessions is not the only member of President Trump’s campaign who spoke to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at a diplomacy conference connected to the Republican National Convention in July. At least two more members of the Trump campaign’s national security officials also spoke with Kislyak at the event, and several more Trump national security advisers were in attendance.

It's unknown what the Trump campaign officials who spoke with the ambassador – J.D. Gordon and Carter Page – discussed with him. Those who took part in the events in Cleveland said it is not unusual for presidential campaign teams to interact with diplomats.

However, the newly-revealed communications further contradict months of repeated denials by Trump officials that his campaign had contact with officials representing the Russian government.
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Lock him up! Lock him up!

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What a ####ing joke. The republicans should never hold office again.
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So it appears that Mike Pence and Scott Pruitt used a private email server to conduct government business



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http://www.indystar.com/story/news/p...cked/98604904/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8aa19050c521
After looking into this, it's incredibly hypocritical, but there's a significant difference from what Clinton did.


There's no law in Indiana similar to the Federal laws Clinton was held to. Government officials are not required to use secured government servers like Federal officials must:

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Public officials are not barred from using personal email accounts under Indiana law, but the law is interpreted to mean that any official business conducted on private email must be retained to comply with public record laws.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/pence-i...ails-1.4007957


At the end of the day nothing comes of this because of the timing of the Russia narrative and at most he's guilty of being a hypocritical politician, which we already knew he was.
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Also, looking deeper into the Sessions perjury story, there's no way indictment comes there either.

There's 2 main reasons:
1) For there to be a crime of perjury, 3 things must be present - lying , being under oath, intent. As much as you and I may know he intended it, that's not going to be enough. There's far too many cases like this that just don't stick. The question he answered that to didn't even ask if he'd had contact with the Russians so his answer.
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Franken:#CNN just published a story#alleging that the intelligence community provided documents to the president-elect last week that included information that quote, ‘Russian operatives claimed to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump.’ These documents also allegedly say quote, ‘There was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump's surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government.’Now, again, I'm telling you this as it's coming out, so you know. But if it's true, it's obviously extremely serious and if there is any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this campaign, what will you do?

Sessions: I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I did not have communications with the Russians, and I'm unable to comment on it.
2) The other more awful reason no charges will be levied anyways is that only the DOJ can investigate a crime. Congress cannot. So that means only Jeff Sessions can authorize an investigation into whether Jeff Sessions is guilty of perjury
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And damn of that doesn't sound guilty reading it now.

"What will you do if the Trump campaign was coordinating with the Russians?"
"I didn't do it"
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After looking into this, it's incredibly hypocritical, but there's a significant difference from what Clinton did.


There's no law in Indiana similar to the Federal laws Clinton was held to. Government officials are not required to use secured government servers like Federal officials must:



http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/pence-i...ails-1.4007957


At the end of the day nothing comes of this because of the timing of the Russia narrative and at most he's guilty of being a hypocritical politician, which we already knew he was.
Sorry, but that information is not accurate. Private email is considered a personal information system and Title 4 of Indiana State Law clearly states that Pence was required to use a secured system, had to provide concise activity logs, had to provide the system for inspection, and was subject to data handling requirements. All of the same restrictions which applied to Clinton's email server applies to any government system. Because the Feds share data with state systems, those state systems have to meet the same compliance requirements. Pence may not have received classified information, but he still received information with very specific handling labels, and those labels have very specific handling requirements. Private email servers, or services provided by non-cleared third parties, do not comply with these laws unless cleared by the appropriate administrative body. The information is erroneous mostly because the reporter likely didn't know what they were looking for. They probably did a cursory search for email, which is not the issue. The data and how it is handled is the issue
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This is potentially a brilliant strategy to create jobs in the rust belt: Poison and pollute the great lakes to a massive extent, then have to hire people to clean it all up.

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The White House is proposing to slash Environmental Protection Agency funding that pays for Great Lakes pollution cleanup by 97 percent, according to a budget document obtained by the National Association of Clean Air Agencies.

The potential cuts are part of President Donald Trump's initial 2018 budget proposal, detailed in a U.S. Office of Management and Budget "passback" to the EPA that outlines drastic cuts to an agency Trump has called a "job killer" and promised to reduce to "tidbits" as a candidate.

The proposal would virtually eliminate annual Great Lakes Restoration Initiative (GLRI) funding, slashing it from $300 million to $10 million among other cuts that would altogether reduce the EPA's total budget by a quarter.

Specific program cuts were reported by the Oregonian and have been confirmed by other news agencies like the Detroit Free Press.

The Trump administration says it will release its final budget the week of March 13. The EPA and State Department are expected to take major blows to meet Trump's goal of increasing military spending by 10 percent.
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This is potentially a brilliant strategy to create jobs in the rust belt: Poison and pollute the great lakes to a massive extent, then have to hire people to clean it all up.



http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/..._epa_cuts.html
Hey now---this proposal is just a way to make America First and let Canada deal with the clean-up.
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Good news!

The good guys are getting a REAL leader!

http://time.com/4689875/patrick-stew...o-fight-trump/
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He sure is beloved now.

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Sessions is such a liar, good on Morning Joe to call him out.


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He sure is beloved now.

Apparently Bush and Michelle Obama are very dear to each other.
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