Edmonton is No Good Episode 4: New Rink, Same Stink

[kevman]

OK, I'll bite.

Originally Posted by AlbertaOiler72

31 year old Jiri Hudler had 19 more points than his previous career high of 57 points..which he set 6 years previous Patrick Maroon has 18 more goals than his previous career high set 4 years ago
Lance Bouma score more goals in the NHL than he ever did in junior Klefbom has more points and goals per game than he ever did in the SEL or AHL
Kris Russell set an NHL record in shot blocks The same Kris Russell who leads the NHL this season in blocked shots?
Dennis Wideman set a career high in goals and assists
and not to mention all those 3rd period comebacksThe Oilers are no strangers to the late 3rd period powerplay come back themselves.

and of course, their corsi numbers were some of the worst in the league (on par with the Avs of 2014)
How about:
25th in Corsi
17th in Fenwick
22nd in Scoring Chances
5th in PDO
since Jan 1st?

very unsustainable

So the Flames missed the playoffs the next year but the Oilers?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

How is AlbertaOiler72 still allowed to post?

CP is a community that welcomes everyone, even the mentally challenged.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Since1984

[Wedge]

nevermind

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

How is AlbertaOiler72 still allowed to post?

The cognitive dissonance is absolutely entertaining. I am laughing my ample ass off over here.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by AlbertaOiler72

based on what?

Now, I told myself I wouldn't discuss advanced stats on CP after all the evidence showing Brouwer is an awful hockey player was not only ignored but pissed on around these parts. But just this once I will make an exception:

When Connor McDavid is on the ice, the Oilers have expected PDO of 100.51 which is excellent. However they have an actual PDO of 102.74 which is simply unsustainable and likely has to do with teams giving him too much respect and losing track of their check. Come playoff time he will be shadowed heavily but teams won't leave guys open back door to stop Connor from shooting on their goalie, as he is actually a really meeiocre goal scorer among star players.

What else is unsustainable?

How about the second highest PP goal rate when trailing games? You gonna bank on that when the going gets tough?

or Talbot having better adjusted save percentages than Price and Lundqvist? Is that the hill you wanna die on?

Additionally, unsustainable stats aside, they have stacked their first line with their two best players, unlike 15 other playoff teams. When the Patrick Maroon-Connor McDavid-Leon Draisaitl line is off the ice the Oilers have:
48% CF (basically comparable level of play to a 25th place team) and 47.26% SCF and 48% GF%.. These are actually sustainable stats. They are however the stats of a non playoff team and the kind of stats that will be exploited a la Ferland V Sbisa two years ago or Kessel V Polak last year... if McLellan were the kind of coach who could hang around in playoff chess matches he wouldn't have lost a series with a 3-0 lead three years ago and responded by blaming the players. What will he do, strip Connor of the C when a guy like DeBoer outcoaches him? Presenting #97 Onner MDavid

[Reggie Dunlop]

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

You are the Donald Trump of Flames fans.

Fake news.

[Gaudfather]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Even Vanna could solve that puzzle! Classic!

[Gaudfather]

Only in Greaserville would they name a line the "666" line (sign of the anti-Christ)! You cant make this stuff up!

Lucic’s improvement is part of a strong run he’s been on since he, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Jordan Eberle were put on the same line in late February. The 666 Line (the number is a reference to their $6 million per salaries) has worked for each of the three, all of them picking up their two-way play.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/news...cid=spartandhp

[FireGilbert]

^Also hilarious their second line makes $18M. They will have major cap problems when the first line gets new contracts.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

are you under the impression the Jets ownership gave fans white shirts? Ever?

That wasn't about the Jets dude, I was talking about what most teams do these days who had no previous tradition of it. And why the Flames' one is in a whole other league in comparison to those ones.

[timbit]

The Oilers reek like prison arse.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Now, I told myself I wouldn't discuss advanced stats on CP after all the evidence showing Brouwer is an awful hockey player was not only ignored but pissed on around these parts. But just this once I will make an exception:

[AlbertaOiler72]

I'll also bite:

Originally Posted by kevman

Patrick Maroon has 18 more goals than his previous career high set 4 years ago

the difference between Maroon and Hudler is that Maroon has scored at a decent clip since he's gotten here...Hudler had one anomaly of a season than regressed to his normal total

Originally Posted by kevman

Klefbom has more points and goals per game than he ever did in the SEL or AHL

again the difference between Klefbom and Bouma is that this is Klefbom first full year in the NHL and his offense is trending up

The same Kris Russell who leads the NHL this season in blocked shots?

still not a record

The Oilers are no strangers to the late 3rd period powerplay come back themselves.

the Flames led the league in 3rd period goals (along with TB) in 2014-15 and scored six 6 on 5 goals...Oilers aren't even close

How about:
25th in Corsi
17th in Fenwick
22nd in Scoring Chances
5th in PDO
since Jan 1st?

where are you getting your stats? and why choose Jan 1, to further your argument?
the difference between the Flames of 2014-15 and this years Oilers is that the Flames had the 5th highest PDO despite being 25th in Corsi for and 29th in Corsi against

the Oilers this year have the 8th best PDO and sit 16th in Corsi for and 19th in Corsi against (their fenwick and shots for and against for better btw...around mid-pack)

http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/team...O&sortdir=DESC

[saXon]

Originally Posted by AlbertaOiler72

I'll also bite:


the difference between Maroon and Hudler is that Maroon has scored at a decent clip since he's gotten here...Hudler had one anomaly of a season than regressed to his normal total



again the difference between Klefbom and Bouma is that this is Klefbom first full year in the NHL and his offense is trending up

still not a record


the Flames led the league in 3rd period goals (along with TB) in 2014-15 and scored six 6 on 5 goals...Oilers aren't even close



where are you getting your stats? and why choose Jan 1, to further your argument?
the difference between the Flames of 2014-15 and this years Oilers is that the Flames had the 5th highest PDO despite being 25th in Corsi for and 29th in Corsi against

the Oilers this year have the 8th best PDO and sit 16th in Corsi for and 19th in Corsi against (their fenwick and shots for and against for better btw...around mid-pack)

http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/team...O&sortdir=DESC

That's not helping your cause, mate. I'd stahp.

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by Drake

Not surprising, Katz has always looked like a really creepy guy. I just always figured it would be with dudes, lol

I'm enjoying this as much as anyone, but the casual homophobia dropped here isn't cool.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by AlbertaOiler72

I'll also bite:

well that's a shock

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by AlbertaOiler72

I'll also bite...

This is what makes your posts so adorable—the sheer, unabashed, shameless butt-hurt.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by saXon

That's not helping your cause, mate. I'd stahp.

Ya, odd that he'd reply with a post that supports the opinion he's arguing against. Yes, oilies, there will be some regression. No it won't be to a bottom 3 spot. To finish in a lotto spot with mcdavid would be virtually impossible no matter how poorly your team is built. (Yes, I know you've already done it. I doubt you could pull it off again, but never say never)

You're just going to be a bubble playoff team for a few years with little chance to improve. Congratulations?