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Old 11-10-2014, 10:55 PM   #5221
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Hahahaha, oh man I should have bet on Oling coming back with "Drury's mafia" as a reply.
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Old 11-10-2014, 10:56 PM   #5222
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Yes, when you changed your vote and were willing to kill him I changed my mind.
B.S, you were on board before I ever casted my vote for him. Do you really think we are that stupid??
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Old 11-10-2014, 10:58 PM   #5223
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Hahahaha, oh man I should have bet on Oling coming back with "Drury's mafia" as a reply.
Classic. Back to that well he goes.
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Old 11-10-2014, 10:59 PM   #5224
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Yep keep defending each other like you have done all day.

If you're sure I'm mafia, why did you not want Timbo to put his bucket on me and see my result?
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:01 PM   #5225
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Yep keep defending each other like you have done all day.

If you're sure I'm mafia, why did you not want Timbo to put his bucket on me and see my result?
If you are town why would you suggest an action that could get two town killed?
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:03 PM   #5226
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If you are town why would you suggest an action that could get two town killed?
That's only if Timbo buckets me AND mafia kills me.

If Timbo doesn't bucket me (again, I'm not asking him for 100% just to leave the option there) and mafia kills me then I get my town reveal and Timbo is forced to look at my posts as truthful.

If Timbo does bucket me and mafia kills someone else then he gets my investigation results and knows someone is town or mafia depending on the results.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:04 PM   #5227
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Oling, didn't Timbo already bucket you once when you visited me and saw I did nothing? I mean okay, investigate and bucket me again. Go for it. SPOILER ALERT: I have no night actions, so your investigation results are going to be pretty boring.

Also, please go back and read the scenario's I wrote out. It's pretty clear there is no reward to go with the risk of bucketing you. All of them except it being 4-1 town/mafia and us lynching the mafia today ends in town losing.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:04 PM   #5228
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This is all contingent on the mafia member dieing tonight somehow.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:05 PM   #5229
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Oling, didn't Timbo already bucket you once when you visited me and saw I did nothing? I mean okay, investigate and bucket me again. Go for it. SPOILER ALERT: I have no night actions, so your investigation results are going to be pretty boring.
Yes, I did. And if we kill the last mafia member and I investigate you and the same result happens, guess what? I know you're 100% town. That's just as good to me as finding the other mafia member if I'm alive tomorrow.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:06 PM   #5230
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That's only if Timbo buckets me AND mafia kills me.

If Timbo doesn't bucket me (again, I'm not asking him for 100% just to leave the option there) and mafia kills me then I get my town reveal and Timbo is forced to look at my posts as truthful.

If Timbo does bucket me and mafia kills someone else then he gets my investigation results and knows someone is town or mafia depending on the results.
So let me get this straight. You are claiming you are town and that Timbo should bucket you to prove it and not to worry because the Mafia will kill someone else even after reading this and knowing they can kill two town at once? Really??
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:06 PM   #5231
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Hey Oling, or as I like to call you Mr. Metagamer, how come you still want to play the hidey game?

Got something to hide? Figure soon as you go visible people can do the same thing you badgered Squiggs with and probably part of why he was lynched?
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:10 PM   #5232
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Drury18 let's say Diss and Hockeyguy15 die. One in a lynch and one in a nightkill. One shows mafia, the other shows town. Take your pick because you're sure I'm mafia.

We are 3-1 tomorrow with me, you and Timbo. If I investigate you, you show 0 actions and Timbo buckets me, then you both lynch me with me having no argument outside of ninja kill I suppose but that wont fly.

If I investigate you, you show actions and Timbo buckets me, then me and Timbo vote you.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:11 PM   #5233
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So let me get this straight. You are claiming you are town and that Timbo should bucket you to prove it and not to worry because the Mafia will kill someone else even after reading this and knowing they can kill two town at once? Really??
No diss. I'm not saying Timbo should bucket me. I'm saying he should leave the option available. Why is that so hard to understand?

Flip a coin, roll a dice. I don't care, just leave it as an option.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:13 PM   #5234
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I am heading to bed. I don't see any resolution in sight right now. Will post when I get up.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:14 PM   #5235
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Drury18 let's say Diss and Hockeyguy15 die. One in a lynch and one in a nightkill. One shows mafia, the other shows town. Take your pick because you're sure I'm mafia.

We are 3-1 tomorrow with me, you and Timbo. If I investigate you, you show 0 actions and Timbo buckets me, then you both lynch me with me having no argument outside of ninja kill I suppose but that wont fly.

If I investigate you, you show actions and Timbo buckets me, then me and Timbo vote you.
Two deaths mean we go into tomorrow 2-1, not 3-1. We start at 5, one dies by lynch it's 4. One dies by night kill its 3.

If Timbo and I are both town and you are scum, town wins.

If you and Timbo are the town and I'm scum, town wins.

If you and me are the town and Timbo is the scum, town wins.

Not even a conversation we need to have.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:16 PM   #5236
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Two deaths mean we go into tomorrow 2-1, not 3-1. We start at 5, one dies by lynch it's 4. One dies by night kill its 3.

If Timbo and I are both town and you are scum, town wins.

If you and Timbo are the town and I'm scum, town wins.

If you and me are the town and Timbo is the scum, town wins.

Not even a conversation we need to have.
If that was the case, would Timbo vote for you over me?

That's my reason, I know he wouldn't. Not unless he got my results. I am town, I would need my results to confirm Timbo, not my words.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:17 PM   #5237
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Well I'm town too. So that investigation ought to be interesting. I'm town, your town, Timbo's town.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:22 PM   #5238
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Well I'm town too. So that investigation ought to be interesting. I'm town, your town, Timbo's town.
But now you understand my conundrum. I don't know you are town. You've done nothing but defend the person I think is mafia while trying to ninja kill me. That's why I will be investigating you.

But I do know that if you are mafia, I have no hope of getting Timbo to vote with me unless he has my results. That's why I want the option available.

And honestly, if mafia dies and now I die because the mafia is afraid of Timbo also getting my results (let's say he rolls a 5 and doesn't bucket me) then tomorrow it's now

You, Timbo, hockeyguy15/diss.

If you're town, you have to like those odds.

And again, that relies on us somehow killing the mafia before the night phase.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:22 PM   #5239
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Actually Oling, help me out here. What actions would I have?

I've shown my Governor one publicly. I have not accepted any invites so I have no 3rd party actions to use.

Where would I be getting these night actions to use?

I mean should we flip scum and it's not Godfather, you've investigated me and both you and Timbo got those results so I'm not Godfather. So what actions would I have?
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:25 PM   #5240
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Actually Oling, help me out here. What actions would I have?

I've shown my Governor one publicly. I have not accepted any invites so I have no 3rd party actions to use.

Where would I be getting these night actions to use?

I mean should we flip scum and it's not Godfather, you've investigated me and both you and Timbo got those results so I'm not Godfather. So what actions would I have?
The kill.

If somehow mafia dies before the night, that's stage 1 of this plan. If that doesn't happen, forget it.

If I investigate you and you show no action, you are town. There's no doubt, there's absolute nothing that could be argued against you.

If i investigate you and you visit the dead player, you are mafia. There's no doubt, there's absolute nothing that could be argued for you.
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