08-10-2022, 05:23 PM
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#5201
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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I think Sutter would love Kravtsov, as he's big, fast, and plays a bit of a power forward style. I think he would fit in nicely.
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08-10-2022, 05:48 PM
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#5202
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Franchise Player
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But if NYR doesn't need D what can the Flames offer instead
In before someone says Dillon Dube.
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08-10-2022, 05:52 PM
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#5203
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
But if NYR doesn't need D what can the Flames offer instead
In before someone says Dillon Dube.
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I think that while NYR have a solid-six, they don't have many offensive defensemen beyond Trouba and Fox. To be fair, Miller and Lindgren are developing, and they are hoping for big things from Lindkvist, but I could see them wanting an upgrade.
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08-10-2022, 06:03 PM
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#5204
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
I think that while NYR have a solid-six, they don't have many offensive defensemen beyond Trouba and Fox. To be fair, Miller and Lindgren are developing, and they are hoping for big things from Lindkvist, but I could see them wanting an upgrade.
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Jones is offensive and knocking on the door
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08-10-2022, 06:19 PM
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#5205
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
People didn't really think of Jarnkrok as a center to be honest more a defensively responsible forward but we decided to play him at cetner.
Also Jarnkrok was fine here (he got PDO'D) and should have been re-signed to that deal he got in Toronto IMO. $2.1M is nothing really and think he could have helped shore up the bottom 6, either as C or RW
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Tons of people thought he was a snap to slide in at C...I countered a few times that he has barely played C in the NHL at all
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Originally Posted by Sandman
Strangely enough, I just read an article by The Hockey Writers where they theorize that the Rangers' aquisition of Trochek likely means the end of Filip Chytil's time in NY, as Trochek will be 2C. I don't necessarily agree, but Chytil would be a great aquisition. He's a 6'3" C with speed and skill. He had 22 pts in 42 games in 2020-21, but regressed to 22pts in 67 games last year, although I thought he looked in the playoffs (9 pts in 20 games).
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Trocheck replaces Strome; Chytil's situation is really no different than last year and I don't really see any other C's on their roster at all. Chytil hasn't even turned 23 yet...I doubt anything would happen until next summer (or maybe if they went for a huge TDL splash like Toews)
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08-10-2022, 06:38 PM
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#5206
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Jones is offensive and knocking on the door
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I could still see them wanting an upgrade. Fox, Lindgren, Lundkvist, and Jones are all 6'0" or under, so they may want to get bigger.
EDIT: Lindgren is 6'1" apparently.
Last edited by Sandman; 08-10-2022 at 06:51 PM.
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08-10-2022, 06:52 PM
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#5207
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
But if NYR doesn't need D what can the Flames offer instead
In before someone says Dillon Dube.
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Anyone else thinking Dube's trade value is a little depressed until the hockey canada report is sorted?
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08-10-2022, 06:55 PM
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#5208
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Oakville, ON
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I think thats obvious…Its a risk until this is over.
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08-10-2022, 07:00 PM
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#5209
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I think this is the team you will see going into training camp. They probably want to see what they have in tanev and Monahan before giving PTO's. Hoping valimaki and Pelletier can make the jump and be effective. I could see a trade for a playmaker to try to help Monahan's game at the expense of a defenceman. Other then that roll with what you have and give her
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08-10-2022, 07:54 PM
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#5210
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Who says no? Also to be clear I’m very much on the keep Hanifin train but you have to give to get and it would be from a position of strength the Flames would be dealing from:
To Boston
Hanifin
To Calgary
Hall
Huberdeau - Lindholm - Mangiapane
Hall - Backlund - Toffolli
Coleman - Dube - Monahan
Lucic - Rooney - Lewis
Ruzicka, Phillips, Pelletier
Weegar - Andersson
Kylington - Tanev
Valimaki - Zadorov
Mackey
Markstrom
Vladar
Hall adds that top 6 forward that the Flames are reportedly looking for, he just had a m-ntc kick in on the 2nd year of his 4 year deal and I can’t imagine he’d have Calgary on there. For the Bruins they get a cost controlled D while gaining a little more much needed wiggle room. It’s a win-win in my eyes but those are my eyes, what do you guys think? Is it close value for both? Would you do it?
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08-10-2022, 08:01 PM
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#5211
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
Who says no? Also to be clear I’m very much on the keep Hanifin train but you have to give to get and it would be from a position of strength the Flames would be dealing from:
To Boston
Hanifin
To Calgary
Hall
Huberdeau - Lindholm - Mangiapane
Hall - Backlund - Toffolli
Coleman - Dube - Monahan
Lucic - Rooney - Lewis
Ruzicka, Phillips, Pelletier
Weegar - Andersson
Kylington - Tanev
Valimaki - Zadorov
Mackey
Markstrom
Vladar
Hall adds that top 6 forward that the Flames are reportedly looking for, he just had a m-ntc kick in on the 2nd year of his 4 year deal and I can’t imagine he’d have Calgary on there. For the Bruins they get a cost controlled D while gaining a little more much needed wiggle room. It’s a win-win in my eyes but those are my eyes, what do you guys think? Is it close value for both? Would you do it?
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If were trading Hanifin, I'd like to get a 2C not a aging winger.
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08-10-2022, 08:05 PM
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#5212
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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It's close value I think. If anyone had to add it would be the Flames (Hanifin 2 yrs at 4.95M + 5th for Hall 3 yrs at 6M AAV).
The Bruins, knowing they likely have a great chance of re-signing Hanifin probably don't mind making that deal 1 for 1.
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08-10-2022, 08:08 PM
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#5213
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by jg13
It's close value I think. If anyone had to add it would be the Flames (Hanifin 2 yrs at 4.95M + 5th for Hall 3 yrs at 6M AAV).
The Bruins, knowing they likely have a great chance of re-signing Hanifin probably don't mind making that deal 1 for 1.
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Flames don’t have to add to that.
Hanifin is a top pairing LHD at $4.95M. Hall is half a decade older and plays a less important position. Boston would be filling a more important roster spot and saving over $1M in cap.
Boston has to add to that.
I’d love Hall to end up here for sure, but we need to address the centre ice position above all else.
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08-10-2022, 08:08 PM
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#5214
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
I think that while NYR have a solid-six, they don't have many offensive defensemen beyond Trouba and Fox. To be fair, Miller and Lindgren are developing, and they are hoping for big things from Lindkvist, but I could see them wanting an upgrade.
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Having Trouba and Fox kind of negates the need for an offensive Dman. If the idea is the Flames can afford to lose one and the Rangers need one, that’s a bit of a head scratcher.
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08-10-2022, 08:09 PM
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#5215
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by camm13
If were trading Hanifin, I'd like to get a 2C not a aging winger.
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Keep Hanifin and hope Monahan can bring the magic?
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08-10-2022, 08:11 PM
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#5216
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jg13
It's close value I think. If anyone had to add it would be the Flames (Hanifin 2 yrs at 4.95M + 5th for Hall 3 yrs at 6M AAV).
The Bruins, knowing they likely have a great chance of re-signing Hanifin probably don't mind making that deal 1 for 1.
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Not even close to same value, a 25 yr top pairing dman has significantly more value than an under producing 30 yr old winger. Boston would have to add another significant piece.
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08-10-2022, 08:12 PM
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#5217
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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I still say Coronato for Konecny is a trade that could work for both teams.
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08-10-2022, 08:14 PM
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#5218
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by camm13
If were trading Hanifin, I'd like to get a 2C not a aging winger.
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Fair point for sure; Hall looks good opposite Toff or even Mangiapane if you switch him and Toff between the 1st and 2nd lines but you can tell Backs is playing up the lineup and it exposes our lack of a 1-2 centre punch. I’d consider a Hanifin for Barzal swap but would want NYI to add as Barzal has trended downward since his rookie season and I doubt NYI would want to add. I can’t help but think the Flames are looking to trade though and as much as I love Hanifin I feel like he might be the piece used to upgrade the top 6.
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08-10-2022, 08:15 PM
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#5219
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Sofa GM
Not even close to same value, a 25 yr top pairing dman has significantly more value than an under producing 30 yr old winger. Boston would have to add another significant piece.
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62 pts a year average in the last 4 years despite being on GARBAGE Buffalo and Arizona teams is underperforming? Hall isn't a dinosaur. He'll put up solid numbers for the next 3 years on a good team.
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08-10-2022, 08:16 PM
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#5220
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I still say Coronato for Konecny is a trade that could work for both teams.
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Basically works with both teams current statuses; Coronato is a solid prospect to add to their pool as they continue to rebuild and Konecny is at a good caphit with ties to the city and a RW RH shot. I could see it for sure but we’d need to include a dump of some sort.
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