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dobbles · 10-04-2009, 08:39 PM

4 of us just played against 7 bridges of konigsberg.... lost 6-1. man those guys are good. i would argue they are the best team on ps3. they aren't always rated highest as other teams play more, but if you look at their stats, they are dominant.

gave us a good idea of how far we have to go to be an elite team.

CMPunk · 10-04-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dobbles

4 of us just played against 7 bridges of konigsberg.... lost 6-1. man those guys are good. i would argue they are the best team on ps3. they aren't always rated highest as other teams play more, but if you look at their stats, they are dominant.

gave us a good idea of how far we have to go to be an elite team.

If I was there, you woulda won

dobbles · 10-04-2009, 09:14 PM

gg casual team! way to beat the pro team!

CMPunk · 10-04-2009, 09:18 PM

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gg casual team! way to beat the pro team!

Damn I wish i played

Cactus Jack · 10-05-2009, 09:23 AM

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gg casual team! way to beat the pro team!

As spokesperson for the casual team, I would like to take the opportunity to gloat and also to announce that the Calgary Puckers are no longer accepting challenge invitations from the big team!

koop · 10-05-2009, 09:38 AM

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gg casual team! way to beat the pro team!

LOL. Could someone accept my request to join the casual team?

Joborule · 10-05-2009, 09:51 AM

Should be on now.

Flash, we'll work on setting something up.

Human Torch · 10-05-2009, 09:53 AM

I was the only one jacked up on boosts that game and I didn't do a thing... 0pts, 0 hits...is there anything lower than casual I can join? BTW nice gwg brasil.

lanevosky · 10-05-2009, 10:07 AM

All 7 bridges of konigsberg players can puck handle and create chances on offence. They also seem more organized on attack. They have very good positioning.

After the 6-1 loss, I think I need to practice on my passing/playmaking skill. D-man is a tough position. A turnover from me is most likely disaster, not to mention my offence attribute is already lower than forwards.
Maybe I should play more in Casual team first?

GG Calagary Puckers. That was an interesting game. Never seen so many penalty before. and you guys did very well defending.

KevanGuy · 10-05-2009, 11:47 AM

Yeah that was a fun game last night. It was interesting to play a team when you know their basic game plan.

dobbles · 10-05-2009, 12:17 PM

yeah, as i always say, when playing each other, we all know each others tendencies, so it can be a much different game than when we play random teams.

we spent most of the 2nd period on the PK thanks to some 4 minute calls and the computer being dumb. not to mention that 1 of the goals was a result of the goalie passing to me and then scoring on himself. for the record, i did not call for the pass. thats why i stood there looking like an idiot as he passed it off my skate and into the net.

as far as going to casual, the only way we can get better is by playing these top teams. sure we lost 6-1, but that is probably the best team for ps3. i have no shame in losing that game. i learned a lot from watching them play. their right wing, who i was trying to go against, was freaking amazing. he ended up with 6 points and was definitely their best player. trying to keep with him was definitely tough. i feel like i am a better player because of the game.

i think its silly to want to go/stay on the casual team when the only way to get better is to get experience playing as a team. this whole pro/casual thing i think is about putting the best team out there for the pro league. and when some of our best players want to stay casual to get better, it totally defeats the purpose.

my 2 cents...

lanevosky · 10-05-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dobbles

yeah, as i always say, when playing each other, we all know each others tendencies, so it can be a much different game than when we play random teams.

we spent most of the 2nd period on the PK thanks to some 4 minute calls and the computer being dumb. not to mention that 1 of the goals was a result of the goalie passing to me and then scoring on himself. for the record, i did not call for the pass. thats why i stood there looking like an idiot as he passed it off my skate and into the net.

as far as going to casual, the only way we can get better is by playing these top teams. sure we lost 6-1, but that is probably the best team for ps3. i have no shame in losing that game. i learned a lot from watching them play. their right wing, who i was trying to go against, was freaking amazing. he ended up with 6 points and was definitely their best player. trying to keep with him was definitely tough. i feel like i am a better player because of the game.

i think its silly to want to go/stay on the casual team when the only way to get better is to get experience playing as a team. this whole pro/casual thing i think is about putting the best team out there for the pro league. and when some of our best players want to stay casual to get better, it totally defeats the purpose.

my 2 cents...

Yeah, that was a good experience (playing against one of the best teams). I was too conservative on defence. Need to adjust that a little bit. Also be more creative on offence.

I like the feedback and suggestions from you guys on how to improve my skills.

I think the pro team and casual team should play more against each other. It kinda forced us to change, improve and adopt new strategy.

See you guys tonight!

Human Torch · 10-05-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dobbles

we spent most of the 2nd period on the PK thanks to some 4 minute calls and the computer being dumb. not to mention that 1 of the goals was a result of the goalie passing to me and then scoring on himself. for the record, i did not call for the pass. thats why i stood there looking like an idiot as he passed it off my skate and into the net.

Booo, you had your 5 on 3 in the 1st. It was time for the ref to even it up with some make up calls!

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As spokesperson for the casual team, I would like to take the opportunity to gloat and also to announce that the Calgary Puckers are no longer accepting challenge invitations from the big team!

As I said above good stuff yesterday brasil but one thing you can work on is you kept leaving the RW slot and going to the LW side in the defending zone. This left dobbles wide open a lot during the game(and the following games after that)....good thing they didn't seem to want to pass to him lol

. Otherwise you are improving a lot, keep it up.

And Jawbone you need to play more, you're pretty good.

Joborule · 10-05-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dobbles

as far as going to casual, the only way we can get better is by playing these top teams. sure we lost 6-1, but that is probably the best team for ps3. i have no shame in losing that game. i learned a lot from watching them play. their right wing, who i was trying to go against, was freaking amazing. he ended up with 6 points and was definitely their best player. trying to keep with him was definitely tough. i feel like i am a better player because of the game.

i think its silly to want to go/stay on the casual team when the only way to get better is to get experience playing as a team. this whole pro/casual thing i think is about putting the best team out there for the pro league. and when some of our best players want to stay casual to get better, it totally defeats the purpose.

my 2 cents...

Absolutely. For how bad that game went, it was a really good eye opening experience because it shows what we will need to do as a team in order to compete against elite teams like them.

It really acknowledges the fact that each forward and defender need to be able to make things happen and be a factor on the offensive side of the puck and be able to create plays by puck handling ourselves. Relying on Chuckie mostly to score for us and do all the puck handling work is flat out not going to work against top teams where 3 to all of their players can create good offensive production by smart puck movement and flow in the zone.

We're going to have to work on our playmaking abilities and working the puck around in the zone, espcically on the PP. We have to look more at getting good quality chances rather then just taking shots from far out if it's not there. There may be times when I'm or someone else is open for a pass to continue working a better scoring chances but we take a shot from the point that was an easy save or block shot or head to a crowded area down low. Same time though, don't force passes to areas that aren't there. I know I try to force the cross crease one timer when it's not there instead of retaining posession or passing elsewhere.

If we can utilize each other by working the puck around, while also being able to handle the puck and set things up when we have the puck, will open up the defense and open up the one timers for the slot, shots from the point, deflections, rebound shots offensive players can shoot, crashing the net, and overall better offense production. Patiences and setting up a good scoring chances is why teams like 7 bridges of konigsbergare are successful.

On top of all this though, we still need work on breaking out of our zone. The forwards have to stay down so defenders have short quick passes instead of doing long range passes that are easy to pick off. I know you love the long bomb chuck, but it's pointless to go that far if our defenders can get the puck to you because of too much pressure or the passing lane is contained. We have to work the puck out as a group rather then the indiviual. A lot of teams team just fly back to the blueline, so if we just slow down the play and open outselves for passes rather then force a pass to coverage, it improves our breakout.

Joborule · 10-05-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lanevosky

Yeah, that was a good experience (playing against one of the best teams). I was too conservative on defence. Need to adjust that a little bit. Also be more creative on offence.

That too, we have to build trust with each other so a player can go attack a player while knowing a spot on the ice won't be left completely wide open because a player didn't go to cover it. Therefore we all aren't being over conservative and allow them to break our defense by good puck movement.

KevanGuy · 10-05-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lanevosky

I think the pro team and casual team should play more against each other. It kinda forced us to change, improve and adopt new strategy.

I'm not sure that is a great idea. We saw what happened last year after playing each other. I think despite being on opposite teams we should all be working together as a team, not against each other.

dobbles · 10-05-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Joborule

Absolutely. For how bad that game went, it was a really good eye opening experience because it shows what we will need to do as a team in order to compete against elite teams like them.

It really acknowledges the fact that each forward and defender need to be able to make things happen and be a factor on the offensive side of the puck and be able to create plays by puck handling ourselves. Relying on Chuckie mostly to score for us and do all the puck handling work is flat out not going to work against top teams where 3 to all of their players can create good offensive production by smart puck movement and flow in the zone.

i agree, though all 6 of their goals flowed through that 1 dude. so its now as if they were able to randomly generate offense. i think they still very much use that guy as much as we use chuckie. however, in general, they are all so good they would still be pretty darn good without him.

also, we were only down 2-1 going into the 3rd. it was just some cruddy defense that really hurt us. i very much think with some bounces it would have been a closer final score.

as we noticed in the game, they had some great tic-tac-toe plays. and while passing like that is a huge asset, i still contend it was their great puckhandling and playmaking skills that were the most important. they were able to open up lanes because we would overpursue or miss hits. for them, i think its a matter of taking what is given. they were patient with their plays.

Joborule · 10-05-2009, 02:10 PM

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as we noticed in the game, they had some great tic-tac-toe plays. and while passing like that is a huge asset, i still contend it was their great puckhandling and playmaking skills that were the most important. they were able to open up lanes because we would overpursue or miss hits. for them, i think its a matter of taking what is given. they were patient with their plays.

Thats the key point there. Take what is given. They took advantage of the space and time you give to them. Thats the same thing we need to work on doing.

koop · 10-05-2009, 06:46 PM

I think we need to be a lot more organized. When the puck is passed up to a forward it seems like either it is carried in by that forward or dumped, and as a defenseman it's easier when I only have to focus on one forward bringing it in. That's what makes 3 CPU forwards so annoying to defend, they pass to each other right before and/or right after they gain the zone.

It would also be to our advantage to have a couple set plays for both the breakout and gaining the zone. For example if the winger is leading the rush through the neutral zone we could have a play where that winger cut back towards the centre of the ice right before the blueline, and as they do that the centre who is following up cuts to the side that winger was on (behind the winger), then the winger does a drop pass to the centre creating easy entry to the zone (as the defenseman would be tracking the winger as they cut to the centre of the ice). It's the kind of thing that we could use every once and awhile when we can't carry it in. It may not work, but if we can find little set plays like that to gain the zone it would provide a huge advantage IMO.

Another thing would be to not chase a player through the neutral zone trying to steal the puck back(I'm guilty of this too). It may work against bad teams, but good teams will take advantage when all 3 forwards are on one side of the ice in the neutral zone.

Basically we are like the Keenan coached Flames right now, we need more structure.

Flash Walken · 10-05-2009, 06:49 PM

Seems like I can play OTP games fine, but any time I try and play a league game, booted.

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