I used to stay up late to watch reruns (obviously) of this great show as a kid. It never failed to deliver creepiness or wonder. I have yet to see every episode, but hope to accomplish that one day.
Created by Rod Serling, the show ran for 5 season between 1959 and 1964. Serling wrote 148 episodes, the bulk of the series Dude. 156 episodes in all, the cast list includes Jack Klugman, Burgess Meredith, William Shatner, Lee Marvin and Martin Landau who all appeared in multiple episodes.
Serling's series was largely a television version of classic radio shows like The Weird Circle and X Minus One and was a first for television in its focus. The success of The Twilight Zone spawned a movie and two TV revival series, comic book, magazine and I'm sure a metal lunchbox. It also must have had influence on the creation of series such as The Outer Limits and The X Files.
Highly recommend it to anyone who has never seen any episodes. Great stuff!
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Ok we'll keep comedy-sitcom and comedy-open.
Chuck is in the open category.
We'll see what other ones pop up
Will sitcoms be allowed in open (I vote "yes")?
Otherwise, we need a definition of what is and what isn't a sitcom. If a show like Arrested Development isn't considered a sitcom, I'm going to have to reconsider my choices for that category because a lot of shows I would have considered will be ineligible.
Interesting pick with Larry Sanders in talk show. Although most of the show was scripted and fictional, I believe the interview segments were relatively legitimate (or as legit as anything you'd normally see on any late night show).
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I used to stay up late to watch reruns (obviously) of this great show as a kid. It never failed to deliver creepiness or wonder. I have yet to see every episode, but hope to accomplish that one day.
Created by Rod Serling, the show ran for 5 season between 1959 and 1964. Serling wrote 148 episodes, the bulk of the series Dude. 156 episodes in all, the cast list includes Jack Klugman, Burgess Meredith, William Shatner, Lee Marvin and Martin Landau who all appeared in multiple episodes.
Serling's series was largely a television version of classic radio shows like The Weird Circle and X Minus One and was a first for television in its focus. The success of The Twilight Zone spawned a movie and two TV revival series, comic book, magazine and I'm sure a metal lunchbox. It also must have had influence on the creation of series such as The Outer Limits and The X Files.
Highly recommend it to anyone who has never seen any episodes. Great stuff!
Damn you DFF!!!!
I watch the re runs whenever they come on. Greatist sci fi show ever made!
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Will sitcoms be allowed in open (I vote "yes")?
Otherwise, we need a definition of what is and what isn't a sitcom. If a show like Arrested Development isn't considered a sitcom, I'm going to have to reconsider my choices for that category because a lot of shows I would have considered will be ineligible.
If people are annoyed by my putting AD in the open category, I will switch it to sitcom. It just didn't seem to fit in that category to me, is all. If it's gonna cause this much discussion...
Is objecting to an overly questionable pick placement an option? IE/ if enough people complain, you gotta change the category?
That's how it's always been. We pick according to the categories and then people may raise a stink about it. Then I just make a decision. And sometimes change the rules slightly.. Like making 'Barely Legal" not so barely legal
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Interesting pick with Larry Sanders in talk show. Although most of the show was scripted and fictional, I believe the interview segments were relatively legitimate (or as legit as anything you'd normally see on any late night show).
My initial thought when seeing the talk show category was Larry Sanders. Then after checking on imdb was delighted to see it listed as a comedy AND talk show. After that my choice as No.1 talk show was made!
If people are annoyed by my putting AD in the open category, I will switch it to sitcom. It just didn't seem to fit in that category to me, is all. If it's gonna cause this much discussion...
I thought it was my fault (for choosing "Chuck") that there was a ruckus....no stealng my ruckus!
Is objecting to an overly questionable pick placement an option? IE/ if enough people complain, you gotta change the category?
To me, the easiest way to avoid arguments is to have a set definition. Otherwise, every person has their own interpretations of what does and doesn't qualify.
Is Corner Gas a sitcom? Is Trailer Park Boys? Some would say yes to both, some would say no to both, and some would say yes to CG and no to TPB (I doubt anyone would say the opposite).
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If people are annoyed by my putting AD in the open category, I will switch it to sitcom. It just didn't seem to fit in that category to me, is all. If it's gonna cause this much discussion...
I think the point was bound to come up at some point, so don't take it as an attack or anything.
I think the problem is that the sitcom genre has changed over the last few years, as shows are starting to get away from the traditional "three cameras and a laugh track" style of production, so people don't know if they're still really sitcoms.
If you look at the Emmy Awards in the year 2000, 4 of the 5 shows nominated for best comedy were traditional sitcoms. For the last 3 years, only one of the nominated shows has been a traditional sitcom.
I would prefer the rule to be that Comedy (open) can be any comedy, including sitcoms, but Comedy (sitcom) can only be a sitcom, then the debate over shows like Arrested Development (or any of NBC's current comedies) will be up to the person making the pick.
If we don't want Open to include sitcoms, then we do need a definition of "sitcom". I'm fine with saying that in order to qualify, a sitcom must have these four things:
Half hour long and live action
The cast plays the same recurring characters every episode
Comedic "everyday" situations with a full episode storyline
Live audience and/or laugh track
The last point would mean that Arrested Development, Larry Sanders (live audience was for the show within the show), and Corner Gas, among others, would not qualify, but tv history is full of enough shows that do qualify that it shouldn't be an issue.
Any comedy that doesn't fit those criteria can go into Open, Wildcard, or any other category in which it would fit, except Sitcom.
That's my two cents.
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I wasn't taking it as an attack, I didn't mean for my post to sound defensive or snotty (the Sens lost again so I am not in a great mood). But AD was mentioned as part of the argument so I don't mind moving it if people think that's best. That's all.
So, that means habernac can move Family Ties back to Open?
Now, that we have that sorted out, and because I like to cause trouble, I have a question about the Miniseries/Movie category...
There have been a number of times in tv history where a miniseries or movie was produced that was so popular, it led to the storyline being continued into a series. Sometimes, this was by design, where the miniseries was produced to stand alone but also serve as a backdoor pilot for the series. Other times, the series came about because of the original's popularity. Of the shows that have been chosen, the new Battlestar Galactica is an example of this scenario.
There have also been instances where after a series is over, a wrap-up movie or miniseries was produced to wrap up or catch up with the characters after the end of the series (I think this is more common in the UK). Of the shows that have been chosen, The Office UK is an example of a series that had a follow up Holiday Special.
Would these miniseries or movies that were produced separately from the rest of the series still be eligible in the miniseries/movie category, or do they fall under the series' umbrella? Conversely, if someone picks the miniseries or movie, does that make the series ineligible for selection.
This also isn't a new phenomenon because I can think of two of the most popular family shows of the 1970s that got their starts as made for tv movies.
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So, that means habernac can move Family Ties back to Open?
Now, that we have that sorted out, and because I like to cause trouble, I have a question about the Miniseries/Movie category...
There have been a number of times in tv history where a miniseries or movie was produced that was so popular, it led to the storyline being continued into a series. Sometimes, this was by design, where the miniseries was produced to stand alone but also serve as a backdoor pilot for the series. Other times, the series came about because of the original's popularity. Of the shows that have been chosen, the new Battlestar Galactica is an example of this scenario.
There have also been instances where after a series is over, a wrap-up movie or miniseries was produced to wrap up or catch up with the characters after the end of the series (I think this is more common in the UK). Of the shows that have been chosen, The Office UK is an example of a series that had a follow up Holiday Special.
Would these miniseries or movies that were produced separately from the rest of the series still be eligible in the miniseries/movie category, or do they fall under the series' umbrella? Conversely, if someone picks the miniseries or movie, does that make the series ineligible for selection.
This also isn't a new phenomenon because I can think of two of the most popular family shows of the 1970s that got their starts as made for tv movies.
You're the new troublemaker
Yes habernac can move family ties back to open.
Yes the miniseries or movies would be eligible in the minseries/movie category. The series becomes ineligible. I don't like things being picked twice.
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"This is the story of two sisters: Jessica Tate, and Mary Campbell."
With our 5th selection in the CP TV Draft, The Channel Surfers choose Soap to fill the Pre-80s category.
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Soap, a parody of soap operas, is a show about two sisters, Jessica Tate and Mary Campbell and their families. The two families have all sorts of problems such as: Sarcastic butlers, a war hero who's still living in 1940's wartime and Mary's 2nd husband who once thought he could make himself invisible and was abducted aliens, just to name a few.
"This is the story of two sisters: Jessica Tate, and Mary Campbell."
I used to watch this show religiously when it first aired in the UK. It was fair to say I was addicted to the ridiculous storylines. Burt getting abducted by aliens was simply fantastic!
Damn you DFF!!!! 
so I am not in a great mood). But AD was mentioned as part of the argument so I don't mind moving it if people think that's best. That's all.
