15 of the last 16 Champions have top-4 picks, and the one exception is a team that had some of the greatest players ever to play the game who were drafted in an era where professional hockey players were still smoking cigarettes and drinking beer in between period.
and that means nothing to you?
Teams tank to rebuild through the drafts. Its a very real thing that we see all the time.
I actually already disproved that logic in a previous post. Last season you had 26/31 teams that had a player drafted in the top 3 who was still playing in the league. Statistically speaking those are pretty good odds, don't you think?
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Originally Posted by gvitaly
I did the research about how many teams drafted in the top 3 in the last little while, or have players playing for them that were drafted in the top 3. You might find it interesting. I looked at all the drafts from 2003, with a couple of HMs.
HM:
2001.2 Spezza OTT -> TOR
1997.1 Thorton BOS -> TOR
1997.2 Marleau SJS
Just drafted in the top 3 - 26/31 teams.
Currently have a player that was drafted in the top 3 24/31 teams.
Either or 29/31 teams.
As a result I don't think you can quantify that having a top 3 pick is a requirement. Chances are that one random team with a top 3 draft pick winning are 84%. Chances for a team that either has a top 3 pick or acquired one are 94%.
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People seriously suggesting Edler? 35 year old Edler, who had zero goals last year and 8 assists... We are already lacking with offense from the back end. If Gio is gone, use his salary cap for someone younger who has a little more offense output and not someone whoses not even good enough to crack the canucks roster. yikes.
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People seriously suggesting Edler? 35 year old Edler, who had zero goals last year and 8 assists... We are already lacking with offense from the back end. If Gio is gone, use his salary cap for someone younger who has a little more offense output and not someone whoses not even good enough to crack the canucks roster. yikes.
Wat? they offered him a deal but he didn't like it
He played 52 games and led them in hits and blocked shots...have your opinion but he was good enough to crack their roster
There are far more examples of teams that have prolonged success because they have high draft picks than teams that do not.
Is this true or just a misguided opinion? Canadian hockey media loves to hype this sort of opinion and it seems some lazy fans think that a rebuild where obtaining high draft picks = cups is the solution. Objectively looking back at the salary cap error shows this isn't the case if you looked at every teams draft history. There are 10 teams who have won the cup in the last 16 years and Chicago and Pittsburg have won 6 with incredible duos so there is good reason for the current myth based on the Penguins and Hawks. Most Stanley cup winners don't support this theory and its important to remember the Oilers and Buffaloes that perpetually are in rebuilds. For every year that has a winner with one or two top draft picks there was ~30 teams who also had multiple top draft picks that lost.
To support my opinion here are cup winners and their high draft picks at a glance:
2006 Carolina - Eric Stall drafted 2nd 2003; next notable I found drafted high by Caroina was 1998 71 Eric Cole
Wat? they offered him a deal but he didn't like it
He played 52 games and led them in hits and blocked shots...have your opinion but he was good enough to crack their roster
Yeah and your point? He's a life time Canuck, and wouldn't take a hometown discount to stay. So flames are going to overpay for that? Leading in shot blocks because he's more often then not stuck in his own zone.
Wat? they offered him a deal but he didn't like it
He played 52 games and led them in hits and blocked shots...have your opinion but he was good enough to crack their roster
And your key word here is "WAS", Canucks are looking pretty bleak right now on defense, and with rumors schmidt wants out. He's no longer good enough, that Canucks want to pay overpay to keep him.
Ren Lavoie from TVA has Gio as a potential Weber replacement.
Would bergevin acquire him and protect him ahead of Chiarot or Edmundson?
LATEST CANADIENS SPECULATION
TVA SPORTS: listed six candidates for the Montreal Canadiens to pursue as a potential replacement for Shea Weber. The 35-year-old defenseman could miss all of next season recovering from various injuries.
Seth Jones topped the list, following by Edmonton’s Tyson Barrie and Carolina’s Dougie Hamilton. Edmonton’s Adam Larsson, Calgary’s Mark Giordano and Buffalo’s Rasmus Ristolainen rounded out the list.
Olaksiak can do really well on the right team. If you're projecting him to be a top 3, teams are going to overpay, and he's not fast enough to play those big minutes against the speedy forwards in our division. But if you have a very mobile defence and he's on the bottom three of your depth chart, with the right pairing he could fit in so well. Depends on a team's expectations. On the Flames with their current lineup I'd fear they'd have him on the second pairing and I'd be reluctant asking him to be the shutdown guy against MacKinnon or McDavid. I don't think he can be that guy on every shift - you need someone more mobile to be his partner. Tanev fits that bill but I wouldn't want to weigh down Tanev with Oleksiak as his pair.
