[News] UPD: Flames officially buyout Troy Brouwer

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Is there a link for the full context of Brouwer's quote?

[AC]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Is there a link for the full context of Brouwer's quote?

The original quote?

https://calgaryherald.com/sports/hoc...ohnny-gaudreau

Some say the team should have done a better job protecting Gaudreau from a steady diet of composite products all night. Others suggest the league is at fault for not cracking down more on timber treatment star players have been getting for decades.

“It’s an unfortunate circumstance,” said Brouwer, who has made a living out of administering the same sort of abuse to every star player he’s ever faced.

“I know in my game I give a lot of top players good whacks and stuff. You obviously don’t want to let it be happening to your team, but star players are going to be keyed on. It’s no different than what we do (to the opposition).”

“He’s still going to get slashed – that’s still going to happen,” said Brouwer of the ancient age of nuclear deterrents.

“You can’t protect guys against every little thing that happens on the ice. You can stand up for him, but fighting isn’t as prevalent in the NHL as it was, so as a result guys are going to get those extra whacks. You can go talk to (the offenders) but at the end of the day if a guy on the other team that’s giving him a whack doesn’t want to fight you’re not going to be able to fight him.”

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Thanks AC. Not sure how that's a detriment to Brouwer. He's kinda right.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Thanks AC. Not sure how that's a detriment to Brouwer. He's kinda right.

He's definitely not wrong in what he said, but shouldn't have said it. If that was a fan comment it's entirely fair. Coming from a player though, especially one that's supposedly supposed to try and deter and stand up against these things happening to his team, his comments definitely came across as "Nothing I can do, whatever, I can't be bothered."

[rhino]

Originally Posted by btimbit

He's definitely not wrong in what he said, but shouldn't have said it. If that was a fan comment it's entirely fair. Coming from a player though, especially one that's supposedly supposed to try and deter and stand up against these things happening to his team, his comments definitely came across as "Nothing I can do, whatever, I can't be bothered."

That’s not what he was saying at all.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by rhino

That’s not what he was saying at all.

What he’s saying is that if the other team is breaking the rules, and the refs aren’t doing anything, then there’s nothing he can do. That it’s “part of the game”. That if the offender won’t fight, he can’t do anything.

If someone was doing a similar thing to a Duck, do you think Kesler/Bieksa/Manson/whoever would have said the same thing? Nope, they would have forced the offending player to answer for it on the ice, whether they were willing to fight or not. Team unity.

[heep223]

He’s right, but it’s a dumb thing for him to say.

He should have said that it’s bull#### that other teams can slash Gaudreau’s fingers off and get away with it. Also he could have used the opportunity to complain about the instigator rule as opposed to shrugging his shoulders about needing a willing dance partner to fight.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Thanks AC. Not sure how that's a detriment to Brouwer. He's kinda right.

On one hand the team was campaigning (and rightfully so) to the league that teams were taking liberties with the Flames best player by slashing his wrists on purpose trying to take him out. Then you have a supposed team leader coming out and shrugging his shoulders saying "I do it to other teams top payers so who cares?" It's not that he's wrong and more that it was kind of a stupid thing to come out and say in the media as it kind of implies that Flames management were whiners.

[---Hatrick---]

Yeah, your teams best player gets taken out by slashes, ultimately leading to surgery and missed time and you’re trying to justify it? I’m sure he regretted saying that to the media immediately

[Poe969]

If he gets to play in the league this season, I wonder how the team will react to playing against him

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Poe969

If he gets to play in the league this season, I wonder how the team will react to playing against him

I'm sure there may have been a few players on the team wondering at times what he did to justify a letter on his jersey or time on the powerplay but I don't think he was a bad teammate or anything. I'm sure things would be cordial as he probably is friendly with a lot of the players.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by rhino

That’s not what he was saying at all.

Regardless of why he’s trying to say, I’d bet my life’s salary that you’d never hear a similar statement made by Tkachuk.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Regardless of why he’s trying to say, I’d bet my life’s salary that you’d never hear a similar statement made by Tkachuk.

Agreed. Even it's it's correct, I don't want to hear a player say "It's no different than what we do" I want to hear "Screw that guy"

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by heep223

He’s right, but it’s a dumb thing for him to say.

He should have said that it’s bull#### that other teams can slash Gaudreau’s fingers off and get away with it. Also he could have used the opportunity to complain about the instigator rule as opposed to shrugging his shoulders about needing a willing dance partner to fight.

Brouwer should have just come out and showed his teammate he supports him and that taking liberties on our players won't be tolerated. Instead he basically said, sorry Johnny your on your own. So instead of Johnny feeling the team has his back he probably felt a bit more frustration at his current predicament.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

Brouwer should have just come out and showed his teammate he supports him and that taking liberties on our players won't be tolerated. Instead he basically said, sorry Johnny your on your own. So instead of Johnny feeling the team has his back he probably felt a bit more frustration at his current predicament.

Yep I agree with this.
Nobody expected him to come out and get upset and say "Were going to get payback" but you expect your "leaders" to voice a concern and word it in a way in which respect should be shown.

Instead Troy took the easy way out and just snuffed it off like it happens all the time and its just part of the game.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Thanks AC. Not sure how that's a detriment to Brouwer. He's kinda right.

We’ll agree to disagree. While Brouwer was right, him being casual about the question may very well have been the last nail on the coffin and his last time earning an NHL contract.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

I never bought the "Dougie needs Freddie" rumours but that signing was weird regardless of if that was true or not.

I didnt either, but when you see it in the context here it actually makes sense.

It comes across as though there were better players available for that position but they didnt get a shot because Dougie needed Freddie, for whatever reason.

That in and of itself isnt terrible, but when your teammates have to work harder because you had to have your brother on the team despite there being better options then thats going to wear real thin real fast.

[Inglewood Jack]

Brouwer said that everyone slashes and there isn't much else he can do to deter it, but I don't remember Staal coming off the ice with sore wrists at any point that game. that's what I hated about his time with the Flames, all talk but almost nothing to ever back it up during his shifts.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by btimbit

He's definitely not wrong in what he said, but shouldn't have said it. If that was a fan comment it's entirely fair. Coming from a player though, especially one that's supposedly supposed to try and deter and stand up against these things happening to his team, his comments definitely came across as "Nothing I can do, whatever, I can't be bothered."

I recall a game last year when the Flames were playing the Kings and Brouwer jumped in and got in a scrap to defend a teammate (I think it was Gio?) and took a penalty late in the game. In the game thread I gave Brouwer grief because I thought it was a bad time to have the team shorthanded. There were quite a few posters who disagreed with me and said it was the right play because Brouwer was sticking up for one of his teammates, even if it left them shorthanded.

So looking back at that game and then reading some of the comments in this thread is pretty interesting.

[AC]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I recall a game last year when the Flames were playing the Kings and Brouwer jumped in and got in a scrap to defend a teammate (I think it was Gio?) and took a penalty late in the game. In the game thread I gave Brouwer grief because I thought it was a bad time to have the team shorthanded. There were quite a few posters who disagreed with me and said it was the right play because Brouwer was sticking up for one of his teammates, even if it left them shorthanded.

So looking back at that game and then reading some of the comments in this thread is pretty interesting.

Yeah, in LA early in the season.
https://www.hockey-reference.com/box...710110LAK.html

He went off with Brown for coincidentals, the Flames would have had a PP otherwise but he stuck up for Giordano.