Would be interesting to see how the Flames would have fared if they had strictly followed central scouting rankings over the last 20 years... perhaps I will look it up when I have more time.
I would really be interested in seeing that.
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Would be interesting to see how the Flames would have fared if they had strictly followed central scouting rankings over the last 20 years... perhaps I will look it up when I have more time.
I looked at it since the lockout ... strictly 1st round picks:
2005: Flames chose Matt Pelech at #26
Pelech was listed as #41 among NA skaters. If they had followed CSS, they would have taken Ryan Stoa (#13 among NA skaters, drafted at #34 by COL). Among European skaters, it would have been Jakub Vojta (#3 among European skaters, drafted at #94 by CAR).
2006: Flames chose Leland Irving at #26
Irving was listed as #2 among NA goalies, the highest available. As for Euro goalies, it would have been Jonas Enroth (#1 among Euro goalies, drafted at #46 by BUF) If they had followed CSS and chose a skater, they would have taken Cory Emmerton (#10 among NA skaters, drafted at #41 by DET). Among European skaters, it would have been Yuri Alexandrov (#4 among European skaters, drafted at #37 by BOS).
2007: Flames chose Mikael Backlund at #24
Backlund was the highest ranked European available. Among NA skaters, next up would have been David Perron (#10 in final rankings, drafted at #26 by St Louis).
2008: Flames chose Greg Nemisz at #25
Nemisz was listed as #22 among NA skaters. If they had followed CSS, they would have taken defenseman Colby Robak. He was #13 among NA skaters in the final rankings, but fell to #46 (FLA) in the draft. Among European skaters, the highest ranked one was Kirill Petrov (#2), who fell all the way to #73 (NYI) in the draft.
2009: Flames chose Tim Erixon at #23
Erixon was listed as #5 among European skaters and was the highest available one when the Flames made the pick. If they chose an NA skater, they would have taken defenseman Simon Despres - listed #8 among NA skaters, was drafted at #30 (PIT).
2010: no first round pick
2011: Flames chose Sven Baertschi at #13
Sven was listed as #7 among NA skaters. There would have been one higher ranked one available though: defenseman Nathan Beaulieu was listed at #5. He was drafted at #17 (MTL). Among European skaters, the highest one available would have been Joel Armia (#4 among European skaters, drafted at #16 by BUF).
2012: Flames chose Mark Jankowski at #21
Jankowski was listed as #43 among NA skaters. The highest one available was Olli Maatta (#8 among NA skaters, drafted at #22 by PIT). Among European skaters, it would have been Sebastian Collberg (#3 among European skaters, drafted at #33 by MTL).
2013: Flames chose Sean Monahan at #6, Emile Poirier at #22 and Morgan Klimchuk at #28
Monahan was listed as #5 among NA skaters. If they had followed CSS, they would have taken Darnell Nurse (#4 among NA skaters, drafted at #7 by EDM). Among European skaters, it would have been Valeri Nichushkin (#2 among European skaters, drafted at #10 by DAL). Poirier was listed as #39 among NA skaters. If they had followed CSS, they would have taken Hunter Shinkaruk (#6 among NA skaters, drafted at #24 by VAN). Among European skaters, it would have been Andre Burakovsky (#6 among European skaters, drafted at #23 by WSH). Klimchuk was listed as #25 among NA skaters. If they had followed CSS, they would have taken Valentin Zykov (#7 among NA skaters, drafted at #37 by LAK). Among European skaters, it would have been Jacob de la Rose (#7 among European skaters, drafted at #34 by MTL).
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I believe we have to win a higher pick than Edmonton. Even if we're not 1st I can't see buffalo drafting ekblad over one of the forwards available. I know Edmonton management is pretty stupid but it would be idiotic for Edmonton to not pick ekblad if they had the chance too and him being 6'4 I couldn't see Burke passing on that knowing the defense needs help. I hope we get Ekblad!
I think we have a pretty decent shot at Ekblad, if we want him. Seeing Burke scout him personally makes me believe we at least have interest.. I see Buffalo picking a forward with their glut of D prospects and I think we'll pick second..
1 Ekblad, Aaron D 2/7/1996 R 6.03.5 216 Barrie OHL
2 Reinhart, Sam C 11/6/1995 R 6.00.75 185 Kootenay WHL
3 Bennett, Sam LW 6/20/1996 L 6.00.25 178 Kingston OHL
4 Dal Colle, Michael C 6/20/1996 L 6.01.5 179 Oshawa OHL
5 Nylander, Willie C 5/1/1996 R 5.11 169 Sodertalje SweAl
6 Perlini, Brendan LW 4/27/1996 L 6.02.5 205 Niagara OHL
7 Draisaitl, Leon C 10/27/1995 L 6.01.75 208 Prince Albert WHL
8 Fleury, Haydn LD 7/8/1996 L 6.02.5 198 Red Deer WHL
9 Virtanen, Jake LW 8/17/1996 R 6.00.75 208 Calgary WHL
10 Karlsson, Anton LW 8/3/1996 L 6.01.25 187 Mora SweAl
They don't like Draisaitl as much as CSS.
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Ekblad first overall and MacInnis at 30. Perfect for the Flames to finish last.
Yea, which ever team drafts first overall, basically gets two first round picks this year, (as long as they have their 2nd round pick, for example Edmonton does not) because of the New Jersey/Kovalchuk issue.
Has Reinhart at the top (Button's top 4 doesn't change). Draisaitl out of the top 10. Nylander dropped quite a bit.
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HE TOP 60 - STATS THROUGH JAN. 13
RK Player Last Team DOB Pos. S Ht/Wt GP G A Pts +/-
1. Sam Reinhart 1 Kootenay (WHL) Nov. 6/95 C R 6'1/185 34 18 35 53 7
2. Aaron Ekblad 2 Barrie (OHL) Feb. 7/96 D R 6'4/216 31 14 17 31 2
3. Sam Bennett 3 Kingston (OHL) Jun. 20/96 C L 6'0/178 40 26 40 66 26
4. Michael Dal Colle 4 Oshawa (OHL) Jun. 20/96 LW L 6'2/184 43 27 37 64 9
5. Brendan Perlini 9 Niagara (OHL) Apr. 30/96 LW L 6'2/205 42 28 32 60 -3
6. Jared McCann 7 S. Ste. Marie (OHL) May 31/96 C L 6'0/179 42 28 32 60 -3
7. Adrian Kempe 6 Modo Jr. (SWE) Sep. 13/96 LW L 6'1/187 14 3 15 18 9
8. Nikolaj Ehlers 10 Halifax (QMJHL) Feb. 13/95 LW L 5'11/162 40 25 33 58 30
9. Haydn Fleury 11 Red Deer (WHL) Jul. 8/96 D L 6'2/207 43 6 24 30 13
10. David Pastrnak 26 Sodertalje (SWE) May 25/96 RW R 6'0/167 29 7 14 21 7
Has Reinhart at the top (Button's top 4 doesn't change). Draisaitl out of the top 10. Nylander dropped quite a bit.
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HE TOP 60 - STATS THROUGH JAN. 13
RK Player Last Team DOB Pos. S Ht/Wt GP G A Pts +/-
1. Sam Reinhart 1 Kootenay (WHL) Nov. 6/95 C R 6'1/185 34 18 35 53 7
2. Aaron Ekblad 2 Barrie (OHL) Feb. 7/96 D R 6'4/216 31 14 17 31 2
3. Sam Bennett 3 Kingston (OHL) Jun. 20/96 C L 6'0/178 40 26 40 66 26
4. Michael Dal Colle 4 Oshawa (OHL) Jun. 20/96 LW L 6'2/184 43 27 37 64 9
5. Brendan Perlini 9 Niagara (OHL) Apr. 30/96 LW L 6'2/205 42 28 32 60 -3
6. Jared McCann 7 S. Ste. Marie (OHL) May 31/96 C L 6'0/179 42 28 32 60 -3
7. Adrian Kempe 6 Modo Jr. (SWE) Sep. 13/96 LW L 6'1/187 14 3 15 18 9
8. Nikolaj Ehlers 10 Halifax (QMJHL) Feb. 13/95 LW L 5'11/162 40 25 33 58 30
9. Haydn Fleury 11 Red Deer (WHL) Jul. 8/96 D L 6'2/207 43 6 24 30 13
10. David Pastrnak 26 Sodertalje (SWE) May 25/96 RW R 6'0/167 29 7 14 21 7
We need to get that 6'7 Russian that Button has at 56. Get Kanzig and Breen up here with him and we're the tallest team in the business.
Need to pick up another first in the mid range or so (Cammi).
Wouldn't matter if Buff wins the lottery, they're loaded at D and would prob go with Reinhart or Bennett. Leaving us Ekblad.
Get Ekblad with the 1st pick.
Get Nick Ritchie with the 2nd pick.
Get Rolan Mckeown with the 32nd pick.
Acquire Brett Ritchie from Dallas for Glencross.
Moving forward build O around Monahan, Sven, Ritchie brothers.
Can you imagine Ritchie-Monahan-Ritchie line? Drool.
Build D around Ekblad, Mckeown, Brodie and of course Gio.
Oh and sign Anton Khudobin this frickin off-season, can't believe how cheap he went to Canes. I don't mind Ramo but Berra blows.
I don't think that McKeown will still be available at 32, but other than that - yeah, looks good. Wouldn't be surprised one bit if Burke was a fan of the Ritchies.
doesn't think Ekblad or Reinhat has fallen at all. There is just no front runner.
Bennett is very dynamic player and skater. Plays with a competitive edge, plays to win, and can be a difference maker. Projects to be a #1 center.
Draisaitl plays a power forward game. Passing and vision is NHL calibre. History has shown that you don't judge a player based on the play of one tournament. Draisaitl is showing he is the best player in the WHL right now and he isn't playing with anyone who can really set him up.
Dal Colle is a power forward in the making. Possibly the most consistent in the top group. Excels in skill and contact situations in the game. Only going to get better as he gets stronger. Reminds them of Ryan Getzlaf in the making.
Reinhart, Ekblad, Draisaitl, Bennett, and Dal Colle are pretty much interchangeable at this point
Ritchie is surprisingly quick. Knows how to utilize size. Has a big shot coming off the wing
Kapanen and Nylander are considered in the top 10 mix. Might creep into a front runner. Nylander is exciting to watch.
When asked about a guy with skill and a nasty edge: thinks Bennett has that game. Nick Schmaltz is another guy (ranked 19th), doesn't have size, but has compete and grit. Nick Ritchie has size and fits that mold. Virtanen is pretty good at battling for pucks in the corner.
Haydn Fleury plays a strong solid 2 way game. Excellent skater and plays authority. Hard to play against. Has a surprisingly good defensive game when he utilizes his skating. May be one of the better dmen in the draft at leading the rush.
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