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Old 02-08-2011, 01:37 PM   #501
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Just heard that Shaw won't be rolling this out quite yet, they will be reviewing it all in the next few months to determine what they are going to do going forward.

http://www.shaw.ca/Internet/New-Data...d=C796A1718S98

"The topic of Internet usage and billing is a diverse subject with many potential solutions. At Shaw, we value
the voice of our customers. We will be hosting customer discussions sessions throughout February and
March in service areas across Canada to engage in open dialogue on this topic.

Until this thorough consultation with customers has taken place, Shaw will not proceed with Internet usage
billing. To date no Shaw Internet customer has received a bill for any usage based charges."
Great news. No way it will get pushed through now if they are getting customer opinions. I can't imagine anyone would support this method.

At the very least, the caps should go up substantially. A lot of the logic behind enforcement didn't sit well with me.
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Old 02-08-2011, 01:47 PM   #502
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Just heard that Shaw won't be rolling this out quite yet, they will be reviewing it all in the next few months to determine what they are going to do going forward.

http://www.shaw.ca/Internet/New-Data...d=C796A1718S98

"The topic of Internet usage and billing is a diverse subject with many potential solutions. At Shaw, we value
the voice of our customers. We will be hosting customer discussions sessions throughout February and
March in service areas across Canada to engage in open dialogue on this topic.

Until this thorough consultation with customers has taken place, Shaw will not proceed with Internet usage
billing. To date no Shaw Internet customer has received a bill for any usage based charges."
I better start downloading a crap load of stuff in case Shaw becomes dickish about usage.
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Old 02-08-2011, 02:21 PM   #503
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Interesting how they're suddenly interested in their customers' opinions now that the CRTC's decision is pretty much hooped. I'm glad that they came to their senses and are at least appearing to want the input of their customers, but I sort of wished they had gone this route initially. I'm surprised that they didn't foresee a backlash in the first place.
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Old 02-08-2011, 02:33 PM   #504
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Also - Shaw has cleaned up their web site a bit and there is a lot more information available to you in the usage section when you log in at http://secure.shaw.ca. It now gives you 6 months worth of usage, and visually separates uploads from downloads.
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Also - Shaw has cleaned up their web site a bit and there is a lot more information available to you in the usage section when you log in at http://secure.shaw.ca. It now gives you 6 months worth of usage, and visually separates uploads from downloads.
The new site is a lot better looking and easier to navigate. Seeing the last 6 months is nice to know, I feel better now knowing that it was only Nov and Dec that I was over 60gb in case they do decide to go through with UBB.
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Old 02-08-2011, 03:05 PM   #506
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Holy hell I would be creamed by UBB. 4 people in a house with one as a constant torrenter....

Average 250GB a month. Used 340 in November.

60-70 up, 200 down.

And that site is soooo much more user friendly than the previous one. It's about time.

I'm on extreme...so that would be about $150 a month in overage charges.

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Old 02-08-2011, 05:07 PM   #507
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Just heard that Shaw won't be rolling this out quite yet, they will be reviewing it all in the next few months to determine what they are going to do going forward.

http://www.shaw.ca/Internet/New-Data...d=C796A1718S98

"The topic of Internet usage and billing is a diverse subject with many potential solutions. At Shaw, we value
the voice of our customers. We will be hosting customer discussions sessions throughout February and
March in service areas across Canada to engage in open dialogue on this topic.

Until this thorough consultation with customers has taken place, Shaw will not proceed with Internet usage
billing. To date no Shaw Internet customer has received a bill for any usage based charges."
In other words...."congestion isn't really a problem like we claimed originally...we were just trying to make a quick buck but actually thought the Canadian consumer wouldn't catch on. Excuse us while we go try to mislead the public in some other way."
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In other words...."congestion isn't really a problem like we claimed originally...we were just trying to make a quick buck but actually thought the Canadian consumer wouldn't catch on. Excuse us while we go try to mislead the public in some other way."
While running ads claiming to be making the internet better. Man, those ads were just adding insult to injury.
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I actually find all of this hilarious. UBB has bitten Shaw, Rogers and Bell in the ass so hard its not even funny.
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:23 PM   #510
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A buddy of mine recently tried the "I'm switching to Telus, what kind of deal can you offer me to stay?" The rep replied "we stopped doing that since too many people had called asking for deals". He then attempted to get a explanation about why his cap was reduced by 20% and got the runaround and eventually the rep hung up on him. He, now is using Telus getting the same bitrate as with Shaw with 20% more cap saving a couple hundered a year in fees (no contract).

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Although Telus is hardly a corporate saviour, they certainly played this one very well by standing pat.
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My reported usage for the October billing period, according to Shaw, is 2x what my router recorded. Recent numbers are a bit better, but that one month is way out of whack.
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My reported usage for the October billing period, according to Shaw, is 2x what my router recorded. Recent numbers are a bit better, but that one month is way out of whack.
Since November my reported usage has been cut in half and I haven't changed my habits. Could this be because of their updated measurement system?
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Old 02-08-2011, 07:57 PM   #514
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Although Telus is hardly a corporate saviour, they certainly played this one very well by standing pat.
They didn't, they changed their website to have overage charges as well.

They just looked better because their caps are higher.
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They didn't, they changed their website to have overage charges as well.

They just looked better because their caps are higher.
They've shown overage charges for a while, they just don't meter the bandwidth as of now
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I actually find all of this hilarious. UBB has bitten Shaw, Rogers and Bell in the ass so hard its not even funny.
The two sentences in this post kick the crap out of each other.
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They didn't, they changed their website to have overage charges as well.

They just looked better because their caps are higher.
They actually got away with it because when they added the overage charges, they also said "Hey we can't track this now" so it totally neutered any response.

Still in the big scheme of things, they lucked out things went so well for them, and it will probably gain them customers.
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The two sentences in this post kick the crap out of each other.
It's funny for Azure, but not for Shaw, Rogers and Bell.
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I will also make a vote with my dollar. If the UBB is gone for good I will be switching to a smaller company like Techsavy.
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You've probably seen enough Downfall parodies of Hitler's rant, but if done well, they can be quite amusing:

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