01-16-2016, 04:26 PM
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#5141
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
WTH would you do that? Flames have some hard working kids in the AHL who deserve a shot at cracking the NHL full time more than Joe does. The fact you have to say 'when he is on' is part of the problem. 3on3 favors the Flames and negates the need for Flames to have good shootout guys. All Flames are good in the community.
If you gotta keep him, offer him league min and 2 way. He isn't worth more.
But he has had lots of time and opportunity to prove what he is, and he is basically a 10 lb heavier version of what was picked up a few years back.
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Although clearly not a strong player for us this year, a farm player would take his place right now if it was beneficial. Nobody is stealing his spot quite yet. Hopefully it happens at some point though.
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01-16-2016, 04:44 PM
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#5142
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Self-Retired
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Originally Posted by MarkGio
I like Colborne when he's on, since he's hard to take off the puck and can win board battles. But the problem is that he plays intense once every 5 games, if that.
When the NHL was shootout-heavy he had good value, but now I'm not so sure. Who knows, Byron took a while to put it all together, so maybe Colborne will eventually get there?
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Joe Thorton disagrees.
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01-16-2016, 05:10 PM
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#5143
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
None of the kids in the AHL are demonstrating they are ready to be a full time NHLer.
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You keep saying that. Are you just ignoring Grant, Hamilton, Agostino, Shore, Arnold?
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01-16-2016, 05:12 PM
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#5144
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_Chief
You keep saying that. Are you just ignoring Grant, Hamilton, Agostino, Shore, Arnold?
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No. I don't think they have demonstrated they are ready for full time duty.
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01-16-2016, 05:28 PM
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#5145
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
No. I don't think they have demonstrated they are ready for full time duty.
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How would they do that without ever playing in the NHL?
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01-16-2016, 05:30 PM
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#5146
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
How would they do that without ever playing in the NHL?
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By playing consistent, quality hockey at the AHL level and performing well at training camps.
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01-16-2016, 05:32 PM
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#5147
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Franchise Player
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I thought Grant showed some good things when he was up and has continued playing well on the farm.
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01-16-2016, 05:34 PM
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#5148
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
By playing consistent, quality hockey at the AHL level and performing well at training camps.
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Reading the AHL forum, those guys get consistently good reviews from AHL watchers.
It's not like all guys at NHL level on the Flames are performing consistently.
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01-16-2016, 05:34 PM
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#5149
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Could Care Less
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It's pretty safe to say that our forward prospects look pretty lukewarm with all the graduations over the past two years. One of those good problems I guess, but it's ironic how the Flames prospect strength went from F to D so quickly.
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01-16-2016, 06:47 PM
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#5150
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First Line Centre
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Have a scout at leafs Bruins game tonight.
@HackswithHaggs: NHL scouts attending Bruins/Maple Leafs game tonight https://t.co/g9TWyePBzY
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01-16-2016, 07:07 PM
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#5151
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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HNIC:
Maloney thought about delaying the Scott trade until after the all star game, but really wanted Tinordi and there was a chance the deal was going to fall apart, so pulled the trigger
Some think hagelin trade might be setting up for a Drouin trade. Some surprised that the Pens would take on so much term.
keep an eye on the Ducks loaded D group once they get healthy lots of interest there
teams are asking about Russell, but one GM says he has been told Flames trying to re-sign him
Staal's agent will meet with Carolina net week to discuss future
Kings will take a run at re-signing Lucic
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01-16-2016, 09:16 PM
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#5152
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Franchise Player
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Travis Yost @travisyost
I have no idea how far along (if at all) this is but ...
Travis Yost @travisyost
One thing I have consistently heard in the last couple of weeks is Jared Cowen and Calgary
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01-16-2016, 09:17 PM
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#5153
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I used to like Cowan but that makes no sense right now given the Flames depth on D.
Unless you're shipping out Wideman or Smid for him. Just makes no sense.
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01-16-2016, 09:17 PM
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#5154
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12
Travis Yost @travisyost
I have no idea how far along (if at all) this is but ...
Travis Yost @travisyost
One thing I have consistently heard in the last couple of weeks is Jared Cowen and Calgary
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Yikes. I hope not....Cowen is god-awful.
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01-16-2016, 09:19 PM
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#5155
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Franchise Player
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Cowen
No hockey IQ
No puck skills
No thank you
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01-16-2016, 09:32 PM
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#5156
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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The few things that give me hope for Cowan is he is actually good in his own zone, is only 24 and still has a couple of years to figure the rest out.
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01-16-2016, 09:33 PM
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#5157
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Franchise Player
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My own prediction is Russell going to Ottawa. May not be straight up but I see him ending up in Ottawa.
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01-16-2016, 09:37 PM
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#5158
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Mount Forest, On.
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yikes isn't cowen more or less Phaneuf lite 2.0 ? All the tools but no sense of what to do with them ? If so stay away. If not maybe a change of scenery helps ? Russell for Cowen straight up I not sure I like that one.
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01-16-2016, 09:41 PM
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#5159
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Cowen would be okay as a #6. Wouldn't be opposed if the Flames moved Russell for him because of size alone. Not really a great or bad idea. It depends on what the deal is.
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01-16-2016, 09:47 PM
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#5160
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GB70
yikes isn't cowen more or less Phaneuf lite 2.0 ? All the tools but no sense of what to do with them ? If so stay away. If not maybe a change of scenery helps ? Russell for Cowen straight up I not sure I like that one.
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No. Nurse is Phaneuf lite 2.0. Cowen is even worse. Like way worse.
Cowen is MAYBE a borderline NHL calibre defenseman. Can't skate or handle the puck at all.
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