2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I got a flag today from my source in the East that Calgary’s tone has changed on Markstrom and he believes that Calgary has gotten the “Value” they want and are engaging other parties for best offers.

He’s aware of 3 teams but thinks their is a couple more.

That sounds exactly like Conroy's MO. Flames are happy with a deal and he letting the others know it is now or never. With the Oilers losing on Saturday, this gets announced on Monday.

[HitterD]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I got a flag today from my source in the East that Calgary’s tone has changed on Markstrom and he believes that Calgary has gotten the “Value” they want and are engaging other parties for best offers.

He’s aware of 3 teams but thinks their is a couple more.

Seems to be the same approach he took with Lindholm, get something you are willing to accept and then make a quick ask to other bidders for best and final offer. I’m loving the way Conroy is handling his business, and all the more reason to keep trying to make deals when there isn’t a trade deadline creating a pinch point for him to extract value.

Can’t wait to see how this plays out

[dustygoon]

Shop the deal and piss off cranky Fitz. Love it.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I got a flag today from my source in the East that Calgary’s tone has changed on Markstrom and he believes that Calgary has gotten the “Value” they want and are engaging other parties for best offers.

He’s aware of 3 teams but thinks their is a couple more.

Hopefully the finals are over Saturday night and this trade is announced by Monday. Just want it to be over.

Good news that it appears CC got the value he wanted though.

[SuperMatt18]

Bobrovsky's performance probably helps.

Florida made back to back finals with a goalie who was 34 and 35 and was making $10M.

Markstrom will be 34 and 35 in the final 2 seasons of his deal, and might be making as low as $3M.

If you're a team that wants to win and take a step you probably look at Bob now and say "Marktstrom probably isn't too old"

[GioforPM]

They should start a rumour Edmonton is in the mix and put Skinner off his game.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They should start a rumour Edmonton is in the mix and put Skinner off his game.

Does he have an on game?

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Bobrovsky's performance probably helps.

Florida made back to back finals with a goalie who was 34 and 35 and was making $10M.

Markstrom will be 34 and 35 in the final 2 seasons of his deal, and might be making as low as $3M.

If you're a team that wants to win and take a step you probably look at Bob now and say "Marktstrom probably isn't too old"

I hope so.

With that said, Markstrom is too old. He's an average starter that has some good years. If Bobrobsky wins the cup, he'll probably put himself in the conversation with names like Hasek, Roy, Dryden, Brodeur etc (HM: Tim Thomas). We're talking about a guy with two vezinas, along with a year where he swept a 62 win team, along with a year where he beat a 65 win team. The guy is a living legend and he hasn't even beat the best team of Connor McDavid's lifetime just yet.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Bobrovsky's performance probably helps.

Florida made back to back finals with a goalie who was 34 and 35 and was making $10M.

Markstrom will be 34 and 35 in the final 2 seasons of his deal, and might be making as low as $3M.

If you're a team that wants to win and take a step you probably look at Bob now and say "Marktstrom probably isn't too old"

Several teams also have their players in their prime now, with a contender window of 2-4 years. They need a goalie to last 2-4 years, and without that #1 goalie they are burning the majority of their windows.

Also hopefully Treliving does something dumb.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Does he have an on game?

Yes, if you are watching the Finals he is ON.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by blankall

Also hopefully Treliving does something dumb.

Marner to Florida makes sense.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Hopefully the finals are over Saturday night and this trade is announced by Monday. Just want it to be over.

Good news that it appears CC got the value he wanted though.

Again sure it will be NJ, but would love to see Ottawa offer,


2024 1st (7 overall) + Pinto + Korpisalo

Ride two years of Korpisalo and stay bad while you retain on Markstrom. Then if he had to go in year 3 buy him out or move him with retention.

Get a stud Dman at 7 and then Iginla or Catton at 9. Also depending on how it is going, include a 2nd along with 28 to move up to draft Jiricek.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Again sure it will be NJ, but would love to see Ottawa offer,


2024 1st (7 overall) + Pinto + Korpisalo

Ride two years of Korpisalo and stay bad while you retain on Markstrom. Then if he had to go in year 3 buy him out or move him with retention.

Get a stud Dman at 7 and then Iginla or Catton at 9. Also depending on how it is going, include a 2nd along with 28 to move up to draft Jiricek.

Pft holy #### that would rock.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I hope so.

With that said, Markstrom is too old. He's an average starter that has some good years. If Bobrobsky wins the cup, he'll probably put himself in the conversation with names like Hasek, Roy, Dryden, Brodeur etc (HM: Tim Thomas). We're talking about a guy with two vezinas, along with a year where he swept a 62 win team, along with a year where he beat a 65 win team. The guy is a living legend and he hasn't even beat the best team of Connor McDavid's lifetime just yet.

You're thinking about it too logically though which NHL GMs don't always do.

Bobrovsky had a higher top end than Markstrom, but at the same time they are similar in that they were somewhat inconsistent throughout their career.

Bob had two Vezina trophies but he also mixed in seasons of poor goaltending in there, to the point where at one point his contract was looked at preventing Florida from contending and being one of the worst in the NHL. I don't think this win puts him into the discussion with Hasek / Roy / Brodeur ... but probably more in like the Fleury / Lundqvist / Luongo / Rask tier.

Markstrom is a bit like Bobrovsky lite...he never won the Vezina but was a finalist twice IIRC. Was a bit inconsistent in his career, and probably would have a third Vezina finalist this year if he didn't get hurt / Flames didn't sell.

In the last 4 years in Calgary Markstrom is +7 GSAA, and Bobrovsky in the last 5 years in Florida is +6 GSAA.

I think a team looks at that and goes "If Florida can make the finals with a 34 and 35 year old Bob, why can't we make the finals with a 34 and 35 year old Markstrom" Especially with Bob making $10M and Markstrom making $3-$6M.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Marner to Florida makes sense.

Marner for Reinhart and OEL. Signs Reinhart to 10.5x7.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Marner to Florida makes sense.

Doesn't make sense to me at all. He doesn't play the style Maurice wants. He's a perimeter player. Laine would be a much better fit.

[Solstice]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Doesn't make sense to me at all. He doesn't play the style Maurice wants. He's a perimeter player. Laine would be a much better fit.

I think he was mocking Tre trading away a couple studs in Tkachuk and Bennett to Florida. Not that we was actually making the proposal and saying that makes sense lol

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Doesn't make sense to me at all. He doesn't play the style Maurice wants. He's a perimeter player. Laine would be a much better fit.

It was kind of a joke based on Treliving's history of loading up the Panthers.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I got a flag today from my source in the East that Calgary’s tone has changed on Markstrom and he believes that Calgary has gotten the “Value” they want and are engaging other parties for best offers.

He’s aware of 3 teams but thinks their is a couple more.

Tough to interpret what that value is. If it’s 10th overall from New Jersey… what could other teams interested in Markstrom offer that could out-bid 10th overall?

Ottawa: Obvious answer is 7th overall but I think that’s unlikely given they are committed to giving up either their 2024 first round pick or their 2025 first round pick. I think they have Boston’s first round pick this year but it’s 25th overall. I could see something like 25th overall + Chychrun… it would fit with the retool model but I would much rather have 10th overall.

Toronto: Only piece they have that I could see the flames interested in would be Easton Cowen but I doubt Toronto would trade him.

LA: They have 21st overall in this draft but would need to add a top prospect to best 10th overall from New Jersey.

However… if it turns out New Jersey is still only offering their 2025 first round pick (lottery protected) + Holtz and Conroy is now willing to take that because the relationship with Markstrom has shifted to the point he feels he has to trade him now… then any of the teams listed above could beat that offer if they want to.

Like pretty much everyone else here… I’m really hoping it’s New Jersey stepping up to trade 10th overall. But we have all continually hoped for bigger/better returns for these players and it turns out those packages were never really close to happening. My heart tells me 10th overall in 2024 for Markstrom (50% retained) but my head tells me it will be New Jersey’s 2025 first round pick + Holtz for Markstrom (30% retained)

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Tough to interpret what that value is. If it’s 10th overall from New Jersey… what could other teams interested in Markstrom offer that could out-bid 10th overall?

Ottawa: Obvious answer is 7th overall but I think that’s unlikely given they are committed to giving up either their 2024 first round pick or their 2025 first round pick. I think they have Boston’s first round pick this year but it’s 25th overall. I could see something like 25th overall + Chychrun… it would fit with the retool model but I would much rather have 10th overall.

Toronto: Only piece they have that I could see the flames interested in would be Easton Cowen but I doubt Toronto would trade him.

LA: They have 21st overall in this draft but would need to add a top prospect to best 10th overall from New Jersey.

However… if it turns out New Jersey is still only offering their 2025 first round pick (lottery protected) + Holtz and Conroy is now willing to take that because the relationship with Markstrom has shifted to the point he feels he has to trade him now… then any of the teams listed above could beat that offer if they want to.

Like pretty much everyone else here… I’m really hoping it’s New Jersey stepping up to trade 10th overall. But we have all continually hoped for bigger/better returns for these players and it turns out those packages were never really close to happening. My heart tells me 10th overall in 2024 for Markstrom (50% retained) but my head tells me it will be New Jersey’s 2025 first round pick + Holtz for Markstrom (30% retained)

Ottawa could offer 25,39 and they have four fourth rounders.