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Old 12-23-2024, 07:44 PM   #5101
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Send him here as a cap dump, throw in some picks and a prospect and we’ll take him off their hands. They can have Hanley. Although maybe about 6 years late.
The Rangers literally imploding is something we should be all over. Kreider a decent player and a good leader, for 2 more seasons at $6.5? Sure. 4th round pick unless Rags want to eat some salary.

We need to replace Mantha anyways. It's likely to get worse before it gets better, before someone stops Drury from demolishing the rest of the roster for the next few years, so let's pick those guys up. They didn't forget how to play hockey after winning the Presidents trophy.
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Old 12-23-2024, 07:57 PM   #5102
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I'd opine it's some of an ego, but also it may be one of the harder markets to come into and shine. Drury really had no head office experience. He very likely went the Shanahan route, kissed up to someone, they liked his jib, and next thing you know he has a high ranking position.

Nah, IMO Drury was offered a role in upper management when he decided to accept his buyout from the Rangers in 2011.

Drury could have forced the Rangers to LTIR his final season, but for "whatever" reason did not use a valid medical exemption to stop the buyout. The buyout cost him about $1.667 million.

This allowed the Rangers to free up the cap space to sign Brad Richards to the megadeal.

A few years later Drury was named director of player development and worked his way up the organization.
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The Rangers literally imploding is something we should be all over. Kreider a decent player and a good leader, for 2 more seasons at $6.5? Sure. 4th round pick unless Rags want to eat some salary.

We need to replace Mantha anyways. It's likely to get worse before it gets better, before someone stops Drury from demolishing the rest of the roster for the next few years, so let's pick those guys up. They didn't forget how to play hockey after winning the Presidents trophy.
If the flames and Kreider could work it out that they are getting him to trade him with retention, it could be a smart move. He agrees to waive his NMC to go to Calgary for a 4th round pick. Calgary retains 50% of his salary, and gets a 2nd/late 1st round pick at the TDL. Kreider at $3.25 million AAV for 2 years is decent contract for a contender.
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If the flames and Kreider could work it out that they are getting him to trade him with retention, it could be a smart move. He agrees to waive his NMC to go to Calgary for a 4th round pick. Calgary retains 50% of his salary, and gets a 2nd/late 1st round pick at the TDL. Kreider at $3.25 million AAV for 2 years is decent contract for a contender.
If he is worth a 1st or 2nd at the deadline, I don't see why the Rangers trade him for a 4th now.
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If he is worth a 1st or 2nd at the deadline, I don't see why the Rangers trade him for a 4th now.
Because teams are sitting around dreaming up ideas of how to help Calgary.

Duh!!!
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Old 12-24-2024, 06:56 AM   #5106
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Flames should be targeting Philly with Vladar. All three of their goalies are horrendous this season, and I have no doubt they would love to dump Fedotov.
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Old 12-24-2024, 06:59 AM   #5107
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Flames have the cap space but with Cooley waiting in the wings I don't know why they'd take on a year of Fedotov at $4M or whatever he's making. Also doubt the Flyers would pay a lot to get that off the books either. Are they unhappy with him?
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Flames have the cap space but with Cooley waiting in the wings I don't know why they'd take on a year of Fedotov at $4M or whatever he's making. Also doubt the Flyers would pay a lot to get that off the books either. Are they unhappy with him?

Not so much the salary as just getting rid of someone who is playing terribly and paid to be a lot better. Kolosov has a SPCT of .878, Fedotov .877, and Ersson .872.


They need to do something, and they can't have that many goalies if they add someone. Someone has to be on the way out. The Flames have cap room and can maybe take on an extra asset.
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If he is worth a 1st or 2nd at the deadline, I don't see why the Rangers trade him for a 4th now.
Because they don’t want to retain I guess.
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Not so much the salary as just getting rid of someone who is playing terribly and paid to be a lot better. Kolosov has a SPCT of .878, Fedotov .877, and Ersson .872.


They need to do something, and they can't have that many goalies if they add someone. Someone has to be on the way out. The Flames have cap room and can maybe take on an extra asset.
Vladar at .886 will fit in nicely there.
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Old 12-24-2024, 07:50 AM   #5111
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Not so much the salary as just getting rid of someone who is playing terribly and paid to be a lot better. Kolosov has a SPCT of .878, Fedotov .877, and Ersson .872.


They need to do something, and they can't have that many goalies if they add someone. Someone has to be on the way out. The Flames have cap room and can maybe take on an extra asset.
Vladar would be a good fit

He has .88 average for 2 yrs now
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Only place I frequent so I’m posting here. Anyone see the video of Weegs calling Pospisl Piss Whistle? lol nice!
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1872320205696995685

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It's what makes team building so hard. You can see a Chandler Stephenson blow up in a system like Vegas and completely crater in a system like Seattle's. Not to mention player chemistry. Roster composition cannot be built purely on statistical analyses.
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Well in Vegas he often played with Stone, iirc. Seattle doesn't have a Stone.
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Yeah Stone carried him. Francis is a terrible GM. Look at Seattle and pretty much avoid what rhey are doing.
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Savage. This is a cautionary tale why the Flames should just sit on the cap space they have unless its someone under 25.
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Was thinking about the rumours for the last few months about Conroy looking to trade for a young (<25) center. I know it would be a trade for the long term plan but how would it work in the short term? For example, say he traded for Dylan Cozens in January… where would Huska put the Cozens? Right now, Zary is looking to be on track to be a center in the NHL. I hope that would still be the plan. The coach leans heavily on Backlund and Kadri as centers. Would he be comfortable switching Backlund into being a 4th line center? I don’t think you’d want Zary or the new young centre playing that role.

It’s a good problem to have too many good centers. The flames are far from having that but I just wonder how a new young center would mix up the usage of Kadri, Zary and Backlund. I would be concerned if the decision would just be to move Zary back to wing. He is doing great with the opportunity to be a center and I would hate to stifle that right now. Having Backlund as rhe 4th line center is honestly the only option I could think of that would work.
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At the moment, the Flames have no room for a top-9 centre because Backlund, Kadri, and Zary are all healthy. That isn't guaranteed to continue. The injury that put Kirkland out for the year could have happened to a much more important player.

Right now the team has three top-9 centres and zero spares ready to step in. That would make me very, very nervous if I were Conroy. If he acquired someone like Cozens, the logical thing would be to start the new guy out on the 4th line while he gets acclimated, and move him up the lineup when there are injuries or the team needs a shake-up.
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At the moment, the Flames have no room for a top-9 centre because Backlund, Kadri, and Zary are all healthy. That isn't guaranteed to continue. The injury that put Kirkland out for the year could have happened to a much more important player.

Right now the team has three top-9 centres and zero spares ready to step in. That would make me very, very nervous if I were Conroy. If he acquired someone like Cozens, the logical thing would be to start the new guy out on the 4th line while he gets acclimated, and move him up the lineup when there are injuries or the team needs a shake-up.
Conory mentioned in that interview that they wanted to try Zary at C and depending on how it went it would change things for us.

Think it’s gone well. Can’t see them plugging a 7M player on the 4th line or abandoning Zary just to accommodate a player that is worse.
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