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Old 03-01-2017, 09:24 AM   #5101
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Well, somebody has to say it.

Trump gave a great speech last night. Far and away the best speech he's given. The dems who wouldn't get off their hands when things such as job creation and ending ISIS were mentioned, should be embarrassed and ashamed. When Van Jones comes out and says it was exactly the type of unifying speech the country needed to hear, it must have resonated.

Hopefully (although I won't hold my breath) this is the beginning of a president who truly acts like one.
It was garbage. He did his job as good as anyone that can read a childrens book to a kindergarten class.
The best thing I heard, was, He sounded presidential. lol. For the first time in 100 speeches he sounded presidential? haha. great job, and by the way, isn't that what presidents do without having to be pointed out as a win? sounding presidential is an observation that has to even be made. wow.
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Not standing up for the other side is ummmm, yeah the way it's been....forever in these speeches. No one on the Dems said "You lie!" at least.
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Well hopefully the tone changes. Not sure if it matters though, the republicans are firmly in the drivers seat.

Steven Bashears rebuttal on behalf of democrats was laughable. Pretty telling when even Maddow calls you out for coming across as stunty and small.
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He gave teleprompter speeches that didn't sound unhinged during the campaign. He also had the craziest presser in history not even two weeks ago. As long as he's sufficiently Zoloft-ed up, he might avoid the insanity. But can they get enough Zoloft into his system going forward? We'll see (no is the real answer though).
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It certainly was much better than normal. But the bar has been set pretty low. I also am optimistic that we can have a better path forward after a speech like last night. But he will actually have to follow up and continue to act like an adult. If he goes back on twitter and starts acting like a petulant child, then the speech was entirely worthless.

Also, who cares if the dems didn't stand up? Its not a popularity contest to see how many people you can get to applaud. The dems have seen Trump spew garbage out of his mouth for a year or two. All of a sudden they should forget everything and jump behind Trump because he has a couple of positions they quasi agree with?
Agreed, hopefully moving forward everyone can feel optimistic and start working together. Again I won't hold my breath as I expected a disaster last night, but I think it went better than anyone could've hoped.

As for the dems not standing up and clapping... Sure it's not a popularity contest, but considering congress is currently about as popular as AIDS maybe at least trying to give off the impression of unity works in their favor as far as public perception goes?
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Agreed, hopefully moving forward everyone can feel optimistic and start working together. Again I won't hold my breath as I expected a disaster last night, but I think it went better than anyone could've hoped.

As for the dems not standing up and clapping... Sure it's not a popularity contest, but considering congress is currently about as popular as AIDS maybe at least trying to give off the impression of unity works in their favor as far as public perception goes?
Did you skip both terms and every address given during the Obama administration?

It never ceases to give me a chuckle that the same people who obstructed for almost a decade now want everyone to work together to further their goals. How truly magnanimous of them.
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As for the dems not standing up and clapping... Sure it's not a popularity contest, but considering congress is currently about as popular as AIDS maybe at least trying to give off the impression of unity works in their favor as far as public perception goes?
So you held this exact same opinion for the last eight years when the GOP did the exact same thing to Obama? When their approval was....exactly the same as it is now?
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His speech was as divisive, deceptive, and ignorant as ever, he just found a different speech writer from the "American carnage" guy.

What he says doesn't have any correlation to what he does or the results of his actions, so anyone hearing in the speech clean air and water or women's health or better health care and think that's positive aren't watching the actions of gutting the EPA, reversing environmental regulations, defunding Planned Parenthood, and the proposals for the replacement for the ACA.

Not to mention the stunt of creating an office for victims of immigrant criminals, continuing his fearmongering.

EDIT: Hah Trump's idea of bipartisan is submission, not cooperation. What actions has he taken that show any willingness to work with democrats?
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Trump's ratings 17% lower than Obama. Sad.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/tv-r...ma-1201999788/
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Trump's meeting with health insurance CEOs. No women allowed.
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Stephen Colbert analyzed his speech and much hilarity ensued

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Will Trump be publicly reading out the daily crime lists of white drivers being cut off by old immigrant lady drivers across the United States?
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I especially like this line

"the time for trivial fights is behind us,”

says the President who has provoked trivial fights with pretty much everyone so far.
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I especially like this line

"the time for trivial fights is behind us,”

says the President who has provoked trivial fights with pretty much everyone so far.
The best part of that was the audible giggle from Congress after he said it.
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Well, somebody has to say it.

Trump gave a great speech last night. Far and away the best speech he's given. The dems who wouldn't get off their hands when things such as job creation and ending ISIS were mentioned, should be embarrassed and ashamed. When Van Jones comes out and says it was exactly the type of unifying speech the country needed to hear, it must have resonated.

Hopefully (although I won't hold my breath) this is the beginning of a president who truly acts like one.
It isn't though. This is a sham.

Bright shiny objects distract the media with ease. He read something on script -big deal. People are easily duped.
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Did you skip both terms and every address given during the Obama administration?

It never ceases to give me a chuckle that the same people who obstructed for almost a decade now want everyone to work together to further their goals. How truly magnanimous of them.
Agreed... Democrats were pissed at Obama for trying to reach across the aisle instead of using the bully pulpit his first two years in office to hammer through legislation...

The GOP obstructed on legislation that would have been good for the country, simply for partisan reasons.

They are all for a trillion dollar infrastructure plan now? Like the exact same idea Obama wanted to enact and they killed?! the refrain from the GOP side at that time was deficits.... did that somehow go away under Trump?

now deficits don't matter? What a crock of #####
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He has set the bar so low with his other speeches, public appearances, campaign events and twitter rants that anything approaching a normal tone is seen as astonishingly positive.

During a 'normal' State of the Union (or whatever this was) the pundits would dissect the policy, high points, surprises and overall theme and tone. With Trump the discussion is 80% centered around his tone and how possibly, maybe, probably, hopefully Idiot Orange has turned the corner. I'm sure his cult will eat it up and the mainstream press will go back in their box, at least temporarily.
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He has set the bar so low with his other speeches, public appearances, campaign events and twitter rants that anything approaching a normal tone is seen as astonishingly positive.

"Things will not be okay. And yes the sun will rise each day, but the continuing rotation of the Earth should not be your baseline expectation of American society. And I just need to ask you one more thing: It is going to be too easy for things to start feeling normal, especially if you are not someone who is directly impacted by his actions. So keep reminding yourself: This is not normal. Write it on a Post-It note, and stick it on your refrigerator. Hire a skywriter once a month. Tattoo it on your ass. Because a Klan-backed, misogynist internet troll is going to be delivering the next State of the Union address. And that is not normal, it is f—ed up.”

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It was garbage. He did his job as good as anyone that can read a childrens book to a kindergarten class.
The best thing I heard, was, He sounded presidential. lol. For the first time in 100 speeches he sounded presidential? haha. great job, and by the way, isn't that what presidents do without having to be pointed out as a win? sounding presidential is an observation that has to even be made. wow.
Bang on. It's a sad state of affairs when the *only* thing you can say about the leader of the free world is "he appeared to be presidential".
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The other thing that is concerning about this is while the world talked about how Trump was able to be Presidential for 60 minutes, there isn't enough talk about potentially dangerous stuff like:

-VOICE
-largest increase in military spending in history
-significantly lowering corporate tax rates
-ridiculous 2 for 1 elimination of regulations
-pandering to the military widow (even though it could be argued that Trumps recklessness was at least partially was responsible for his death)
-the sprinkling of lies in his speech (albeit much fewer than in most of his speeches)
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