2016/2017 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Roof-Daddy]

With names like Galchenyuk, Drouin, Niederreiter and Duchene floating around out there it'll be interesting to see if Tre adds another young piece to the forward core this off season, and just stays status quo with the goaltending.

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Apparently, Elliotte Friedman said the Habs are likely to trade Alex Galchenyuk on 630 CHED.

Now there's a player the Flames should be targeting.

But why?

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Would it?

Gaudreau - Monahan - Galchenyuk
Tkachuk - Bennett - Frolik
Versteeg - Jankowski - Ferland
Lazar - Stajan - Brouwer

Im liking that forward group!

I would do Backlund for Galchenyuk

[Mr.Coffee]

Flames need more size, grit, toughness and willingness to get dirty and push other teams around. Stand up for themselves and their goalie.

Galchenyuk, Drouin, Duchene... all really talented but don't really bring the toughness that is required to last in the playoffs as we saw against Anaheim. From that perspective, I think Burke is right in that if you want to compete in the Pacific in the playoffs, we need to get bigger and meaner up front but still try and maintain that skill.

It's not easy, not saying it is, I just don't think any of those guys bring the elements to the team we are missing. We need Ferland to get back to the way he was against Vancouver 2 yrs ago, really- or a player like him. Maybe Tkachuk will get a bit bigger and meaner. But we just need more of that grit.

[kukkudo]

Not familiar with Galchenyuk and if he plays with grit. Anyone know? I see he had 91 hits in 2014-2015 but this past season 36 or so.

[ComixZone]

Anaheim's size had nothing to do with why we lost. We were not physically outmatched.

Prioritize talent. Always. Get talent with size when possible, but never sacrifice talent for size.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Flames need more size, grit, toughness and willingness to get dirty and push other teams around. Stand up for themselves and their goalie.

Galchenyuk, Drouin, Duchene... all really talented but don't really bring the toughness that is required to last in the playoffs as we saw against Anaheim.

Landeskog might be a better add in that case.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Im liking that forward group!

I would do Backlund for Galchenyuk

That forward group looks good but replacing Backlund and his two-way 50 + point season (following 41, 42, 43, 47 point seasons) with Bennett who took a slight step back in his sophomore slump season and is still very young here would be a bigger loss at that 2nd pivot spot than you realize.

Backlund is and continues to be severely underrated at times and I think he is definitely part of the core here going forward.

Tkachuk - Monahan - Gaudreau
Bennett - Backlund - Frolik
Ferland - Jankowski - Versteeg
Hathaway - Stajan - Lazar

... this is what I'm hoping to see - Deep at left wing even with sliding Gaudreau over to the off wing and all of the sudden the right side looks stronger too. Bennett riding shotgun with Backlund and Frolik could do wonders for his game too I think.

Edit:

Brouwer obviously is claimed in this scenario and Bouma gets the Bollig treatment.

Still ways to tinker too if we can let Stajan go or use him as a extra... would really dig to see Iggy play that 4th line role/PP specialist

Something like:
Iginla - Monahan - Gaudreau
Versteeg - Giordano

Tkachuk - Monahan - Gaudreau
Bennett/Jankowski - Backlund - Frolik
Ferland - Bennett/Jankowski - Iginla/Versteeg
Hathaway - Lazar - Iginla/Versteeg

That bottom 6 would be lethal with 5 of the 6 having lots of potential or experience in the top 6.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Anaheim's size had nothing to do with why we lost. We were not physically outmatched.

Prioritize talent. Always. Get talent with size when possible, but never sacrifice talent for size.

I don't think I agree. I think we were physically outmatched and intimidated, and we had some weak goaltending in the playoffs. If you recall, Gaudreau was invisible, for example. I think that had to do with size and intimidation and not having enough space.

[Roof-Daddy]

Flames have plenty of size.

I mean yeah, if you can get even bigger while adding skill sure you do it, but any of those players I listed would make the Flames better.

Galchenyuk isn't exactly small either at 6'1" 210lbs+

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

I recall rumours from last year of a Backlund for Galchenyuk swap.

It still makes sense, both players took steps forward last year.

When were those rumors? The summer or during the season?

[1qqaaz]

In the Western conference, big centres seem to be effective. Although it's possible that's slowly changing.

However, for wingers, it seems skill trumps all. Wingers are typically in offensive roles, so they should have as much offensive upside as possible.

Chiasson has good size, but I thought he was detrimental to the top line. The puck often died on his stick because he didn't have the skill to make nice plays.
I hope Johnny and Monny get a chance to play with a skilled RW, more like when Huddler was there.

[IgiTang]

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[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I don't think I agree. I think we were physically outmatched and intimidated, and we had some weak goaltending in the playoffs. If you recall, Gaudreau was invisible, for example. I think that had to do with size and intimidation and not having enough space.

Better trade Gaudreau while he still has some value then. Is Brian Boyle still playing. Has to happen now to make sense.

[KelVarnsen]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Was thinking about the Landeskog comment and got to thinking...


CRAZY TRADE ALERT..

To Colorado -
Sam Bennett,
Oliver Kylington
2017 #16 ova
and next years 1st round pick (assume its mid pack pick 13-19)
Conditional 3rd if the first over all signs and plays for the big club next season.


for

Gabriel Landeskog
2017 1st overall pick

Would something like this be of any appeal to either team? Maybe Flames add a piece like Shinkaruk?

But its a weak draft and the top 3 aren't generational talents by any means..
this would give the Avs 2 First round picks next year.

The Flames have a few guys on the back-end and to a man they would likely say there were too many guys.

With Bennett moved, it Assures a Farm player makes the jump or potentially the 1st over all selection plays next year..

Avs don't have the 1st pick...

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Avs don't have the 1st pick...

Well Shiz.. there goes that idea..

Would be sweet though


Edit: Looked at the lottery percentages. Duh

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Better trade Gaudreau while he still has some value then. Is Brian Boyle still playing. Has to happen now to make sense.

That's not really what I said or even mean. The Flames get pushed around. It doesn't mean Gaudreau doesn't have a spot on the team or isn't a fit here, he is a great talent and can be that skill. But you don't go building a team of Gaudreau's. You need a mix of skill, talent, grit and toughness.

So maybe size isn't the issue (it sort of is when you play Anaheim though)- but perhaps what I mean is more toughness. More of a 'hate' to getting pushed around. So many times you look at them getting shoved without pushing back. Monahan for example is a shrinking violet. I haven't seen that guy get angry, basically ever.

They just didn't seem to really stick up for each other often, or fight back much.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

That's not really what I said or even mean. The Flames get pushed around. It doesn't mean Gaudreau doesn't have a spot on the team or isn't a fit here, he is a great talent and can be that skill. But you don't go building a team of Gaudreau's. You need a mix of skill, talent, grit and toughness.

So maybe size isn't the issue (it sort of is when you play Anaheim though)- but perhaps what I mean is more toughness. More of a 'hate' to getting pushed around. So many times you look at them getting shoved without pushing back. Monahan for example is a shrinking violet. I haven't seen that guy get angry, basically ever.

They just didn't seem to really stick up for each other often, or fight back much.

I love when Monahan gets cross checked and responds by scoring goals. Don't need guys in the penalty box all the time. I think this team has plenty of young tough and skilled players who are growing into their roles. Bennett and Tkachuk in the top six is all the grit we need. One on each line. Ferland can move up and down the lineup. In-car the only area we're lacking drive/toughness is defence. After Gio we kind of just have casual guys, who turn it on and off.

In summary, adding a skilled forward shouldn't be a problem.

[activeStick]

Removing Backlund from the lineup will really bring to light how important he is to the team's overall game at both ends of the ice.

Bennett has shown no capability of replacing Backlund's game and Jankowski is even further behind.

[Kybb79]

No to trading Backlund.What do you guys think about adding Dwight King?A ufa with size and two Cups.