The stormlands took some losses and would be diminished, but were there only three Baratheons and no one else in the family? the north is still able to muster a sizable Army after Robbs failed campaign, a civil war and fighting the dead. There should be thousands of stormland soldiers left in.
A tactical anaylsis of how the battle of winterfell should have been fought. Watching these events play out would have been much more interesting than watching each of the main characters almost get overwhelmed by wights 4-5 times each.
Good luck ruling over people who know you roasted their queen, allies, and brothers and sisters during a parlay when they already think you're a foreign invader and usurper.
First off, that was no parlay. Mostly because if anything it was a parley. But also it wasn't a parley, at least no longer, because Missandei, Dany's most trusted adviser, was beheaded. At that second any good faith based negotiations were off and it was war again.
And there's no U.N. and there's no Geneva convention here.
But more importantly we are talking about Cersei. You want to talk about ruling over people who know you roasted their queen, allies, and brothers and sisters? The Sept of Baelor happened. Where Cersei roasted their (actually beloved) queen, allies, and brothers and sisters. People don't think that was a natural gas explosion. So..
The stormlands took some losses and would be diminished, but were there only three Baratheons and no one else in the family? the north is still able to muster a sizable Army after Robbs failed campaign, a civil war and fighting the dead. There should be thousands of stormland soldiers left in.
Some losses?
There was 20,000 at the Battle of Blackwater that saw nearly all of them killed but a couple thousands. Stannis actually says he has under 4000 left before he makes his journey north and fights the Wildlings. Stannis also wasn't one to simply let people say "nah, I'm good, go on to the battle without me" so it's safe to assume that any knight loyal to the (last of the) Baratheons made it up North.
That couple thousands was around doubled in size by sellsword companies joining due to the Iron Bank.
The travel south (from the Wall to Winterfell) in middle took it's toll. People were dying, and the "20 few good men" of Bolton increases the issue. He reluctantly burns his child because of these issues. Then all the sellswords leave, and he's down to maybe 3000 for the actual battle.
The battle has the entire army surrounded and fleeing. The aftermath is shown (somewhat silly as Stannis at the front of the army is somehow alive for Brienne to kill) and the army is completed destroyed.
The few that were able to hide would have been killed by exposure in the northern winter.
There is no Stormland army and it was fairly represented on the show.
Most of the "northern" army in Winterfell was actually Wildlings and the Vale. Jon had next to nothing during the Battle of Bastard in terms of actual Northerners, a couple hundreds (mostly Mormont bannerman).
The Bolton's had a large army because, obviously, they were spared in the Red Wedding. Most of them die but Jon gets a couple them to swap back to the Starks by saving the small Umber boy and small Karstark girl.
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Speculation that there are 3 more Drogon babies coming? From the opening credits of last episode:
Isn't the big one the one which will be risen from stone by the chosen one?
"Only a king's blood can wake the stone dragon.[1] Exactly what Melisandre means when she is referring to the dragon being "stone" is not known, but there apparently is a prophecy that Azor Ahai will "wake dragons out of stone".[3][4] Thus far there has been no mention of Stannis being in possession of any fossilized dragon eggs, but there are stone carvings of dragons at Dragonstone."
A lot of speculation is that the carved dragons will be risen.
Isn't the big one the one which will be risen from stone by the chosen one?
"Only a king's blood can wake the stone dragon.[1] Exactly what Melisandre means when she is referring to the dragon being "stone" is not known, but there apparently is a prophecy that Azor Ahai will "wake dragons out of stone".[3][4] Thus far there has been no mention of Stannis being in possession of any fossilized dragon eggs, but there are stone carvings of dragons at Dragonstone."
A lot of speculation is that the carved dragons will be risen.
I really hope this happens. More dragons = awesomeness
since the show is both vastly ahead and vastly diverged from the books, and nobody seems to have any use for the ASOIAF thread, I vote that the book talk restriction be officially removed. we've been mixing the two in here for quite a while now anyways, and there isn't any more Red or Purple Wedding shocker coming up to worry about.
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I don't mind that book mention, but at this point nothing in the book should be expected in the show.
The 2 are completely different now. I don't think the show is even going to touch this Azor Ahai stuff.
Oh I have no problem with book discussion, it just seems unlikely to me, given how little Azor Ahai has been mentioned in the show (and I don't think the stone dragon has been mentioned at all?), that anything like that happens.
I think it's just setting yourself up for disappointment at this point.
I don't think any of this is really book talk. They've shown and discussed the stone dragons at Dragon stone (it's literally the name as well, yo) and Azor Ahai at various points in the show.
I don't think any of this is really book talk. They've shown and discussed the stone dragons at Dragon stone (it's literally the name as well, yo) and Azor Ahai at various points in the show.
I can't recall any time in the series where stone dragons were mentioned, nor can I find it on the GoT wiki.
I've only read the first three books many years ago. I'm mostly going on them showing intricate dragon carvings around Dragonstone and also the island having a crap ton of dragon glass. Basically lots of mentions of dragons at Dragonstone on the show, but possibly mostly visual.
I've only read the first three books many years ago. I'm mostly going on them showing intricate dragon carvings around Dragonstone and also the island having a crap ton of dragon glass. Basically lots of mentions of dragons at Dragonstone on the show, but possibly mostly visual.
I really hope they don't go there....random carvings coming out of stone to save the day, with no substantial mention of that prior? The term "Deux ex Machina" gets thrown around too much these days....but c'mon.
If there is going to be a twist it has to come from some allegiance swapping. If it's going to be supernatural in nature, they should at least use something that played a larger role, like the faceless men.
I really hope they don't go there....random carvings coming out of stone to save the day, with no substantial mention of that prior? The term "Deux ex Machina" gets thrown around too much these days....but c'mon.
If there is going to be a twist it has to come from some allegiance swapping. If it's going to be supernatural in nature, they should at least use something that played a larger role, like the faceless men.
Same, I'd love it if dragons played a key role but it's too late to introduce any new ones. MAYBE if Rhaegar miraculously reappears - it was almost hinted at in that Cersei - Euron exchange, but given they jumped from the ambush to the confrontation with no mention of his status beside dead that would be a stretch too.
well if the NK can raise a dead dragon, why can't his chief rival? maybe the Bran zombie dragon is what Euron looks up and freaks out at, just before getting blown away by...green fire? purple?
But also it wasn't a parley, at least no longer, because Missandei, Dany's most trusted adviser, was beheaded. At that second any good faith based negotiations were off and it was war again.
