The jays had 6 hits and 3 walks, the Astros had 7 hits and 3 walks, 2 of whom were the last 2 batters...
Yeah I guess I am just focusing on the extra innings. Never felt like we even had a chance, while the Astros were threatening in at least 3 of them. Oh well. 😕
Came back from the game. Interesting decision by Jays to use their best reliever against the bottom of the Houston order, who are all simply awful.
Alex Bregman looks overwhelmed in the big leagues right now. He needs to be sent down before his confidence is crushed. Can't believe the Astros didn't pick up at least an average veteran bat for this team.
Was it here where I read that if Sanchez goes to bullpen he won't be going back to starter at all?
Maybe I am missing something here because I don't watch a lot of Jays game early. But isn't Aaron Sanchez one of their winningest pitcher right now? Everytime I watched him play this season he seems to be dominant. So, why are they putting him on the bullpen.
It was the same for Hutchinson last season. Yet every time I watched Hutchinson pitched, he was unbeatable but some posters here says he's awful especially on the road and looks like Gibbys does not care of his record and ended taking him out of rosters for the playoff then sent him to the minor early this season. I am not disputing their assessment but the guy was winning though.
Came back from the game. Interesting decision by Jays to use their best reliever against the bottom of the Houston order, who are all simply awful.
Alex Bregman looks overwhelmed in the big leagues right now. He needs to be sent down before his confidence is crushed. Can't believe the Astros didn't pick up at least an average veteran bat for this team.
They did sign a Cuban 3rd baseman, Gurriel. Expected up with the team in a couple of weeks, getting ABs in the minors right now.
There is a correlation between arm injuries and the year to year increase in innings. He has hit the same innings as last year, so despite leading the AL in ERA they have decided to move him to the pen to save his arm/mitigate the risk of future injuries.
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Just watched this again. Still intense even knowing what will happen. The moment that got me back into baseball and probably the greatest Toronto sports moment in my lifetime. Don't trade and please re-sign Joey Bats. I want to see so many more bat flips!
There is a correlation between arm injuries and the year to year increase in innings. He has hit the same innings as last year, so despite leading the AL in ERA they have decided to move him to the pen to save his arm/mitigate the risk of future injuries.
There seem to be many cautionary tales. Mark Prior and Kerry Wood from the Cubs and then now Matt Harvey from the Mets.
Conversely the Nats shut down Strasburg a couple of years ago and he's still an ace.
Whether these are anecdotal or not, teams are not going to burn a future ace for a few extra games, it's just not worth it. Not to mention the Jays' pen is a dumpster fire.
so you bring in Osuna to face the bottom of the order and the new guy to face the heart of it. Nice.
Osuna had been up and warming up an inning or two before. It's not like video game baseball where you can just bring in a guy whenever you feel like. Osuna had gotten himself completely loose and needed to come into the game then or you were sitting him back down for the rest of the night.
They did sign a Cuban 3rd baseman, Gurriel. Expected up with the team in a couple of weeks, getting ABs in the minors right now.
Yeah. Will be interesting to see how he handles major league pitching since they need him to have an impact immediately. There are several easy outs in that lineup right now.
Apparently Sanchez has some issues with his delivery (namely the inverted W, bad lower body mechanics, and an overly upright torso at delivery) that can put additional strain on his arm.
I understand the desire to protect his arm for sure but if I was a Blue Jay, I would be a bit pissed off if they took him out of the rotation in the middle of a playoff race.
Osuna had been up and warming up an inning or two before. It's not like video game baseball where you can just bring in a guy whenever you feel like. Osuna had gotten himself completely loose and needed to come into the game then or you were sitting him back down for the rest of the night.
Then they should have brought him in an inning or two before Osuna has to face Altuve and Correa or else there's no point.
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They still needed to score in the next half inning though, in which case Osuna would have been needed for the save
Which is the worst thing a manager can do in extra innings - saving your best reliever for a save situation. You run the risk of losing the game without even using your best reliever.
Every inning has the game on the line as the road team in extra innings. So even if you don't trust someone with the pressure to get a save normally, you have no choice but to trust them with the game on the line (and with no margin for error like a save situation either). So you might as well use your best reliever early and give your offense another inning to try and score some runs.
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I don't think anyone can really get on Gibby or the bullpen on that one. They pitched 6 scoreless innings after Stroman came out - this loss was all on the offense that just could not get going.
Pretty clear from the trades that Sanchez likely is making his last start this weekend. Everyone knew this was coming though, so if any of the Jays turn "sour" on this move, they just were not living in reality. From opening day, the team has been saying they are going to limit Sanchez's innings, and now is that time.
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Then they should have brought him in an inning or two before Osuna has to face Altuve and Correa or else there's no point.
I completely agree with that. The problem is that Gibbons seemed to be saving Osuna for a save situation (which is the worst thing he can do) and then was forced to use him against the bottom of the order when he'd been loose for too long and had to enter the game.
The bigger question in all of this is why did Gibbons go to Feldman instead of Grilli? Given the fact that before the game the reporters were saying Feldman was unavailable I'm guessing that Grilli probably was too. It makes no sense to jump him ahead of Grilli in that situation. Unless Gibbons was saving him for a save which would be ridiculous.
Guys, quick question -- are these Jays a good team? A World Series contender?
To ask whether a team is a World Series contender is basically to ask whether their a playoff team (not counting the play-in). Any playoff team can win the world series. There's just to much random fortune in the MLB playoffs to elevate any one team significantly above any other.
So... yes. I think they're a WS contender. If you're asking if I think they're the best team in baseball then no, the Cubs take that prize, but do I think the Jays can win 11 out of 19 against anyone in the sport? Yes I do (but so can every other playoff team).
I completely agree with that. The problem is that Gibbons seemed to be saving Osuna for a save situation (which is the worst thing he can do) and then was forced to use him against the bottom of the order when he'd been loose for too long and had to enter the game.
Yeah, I think Gibbons is an above average manager but with regards to bullpen usage he's pretty conventional (and convention, in this case, is wrongheaded).
Osuna has to face Altuve and Correa or else there's no point.
