PGT: President-Elect Donald J Trump

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

Being a terrible human being is one thing.

A false narrative about him making fun of a disabled man which has been totally debunked being trotted out is a waste of everyones time.

I guess I missed it. Debunked by whom?

[flames_fan_down_under]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

This again? Hasn't it been proven with video that's just how trump mocks people? Can we cut this #### out and actually call trump out on the real stuff?

Oh OK it was the good kind of mocking, our bad.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I guess I missed it. Debunked by whom?

I missed it as well.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I guess I missed it. Debunked by whom?

Himself. If you go on youtube there's a really good video of 4 or 5 seperate instances showing him doing the exact same motion to mock other people including himself (before the reporter incident). Trump is such a ####ing bozo but that's just how he mocks people.. with that stupid hand motion.

[Drak]

I saw the video. So a video of Trump making spastic hand gestures to make fun of a few other people's mental states is supposed to debunk that he was making fun of a disabled reporter? Yah no, that doesn't cut it.

[photon]

There's other videos out there of Trump making strange movements with his hands and body, so the claim is that's how he pretends to be flustered or whatever. So because he's done it before to imitate people without a disability it's ok to do it to imitate people with a disability I guess.

Even if it were true that he didn't intend to mock the reporter (instead of it being a convenient excuse), a normal human would be mortified that they unintentionally did so and would apologize profusely and be worried about that they hurt the other person's feelings and it wouldn't be a big deal because everyone would see how it was a mistake. Instead he makes everything about himself.

EDIT: Too slow.

[White Out 403]

That's not the claim. The videos clearly depict him making the exact same motions to mock people who are flustered, including himself. He claims he didn't know the reporter was disabled, and the evidence is that this is just how he makes fun of people.

If the ends justify the means and who cares about the truth why not just claim he's adolf hitler come back to life. Oh yeah. That happened too. Incredible that Clinton lost with that strategy

[DownInFlames]

So he mocks everyone by mimicking them having a physical disability, and not just the reporter in question? Yeah that's not any better. It still shows an incredible lack of character and judgement.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Ann Coulter put it worst when she said he wasn't making fun of the reporter, he was just doing the "standard ######".

[DownInFlames]

Ann Coulter makes her money being an awful person. I wish we wouldn't give her the attention she craves.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

That's not the claim. The videos clearly depict him making the exact same motions to mock people who are flustered, including himself. He claims he didn't know the reporter was disabled, and the evidence is that this is just how he makes fun of people.

If the ends justify the means and who cares about the truth why not just claim he's adolf hitler come back to life. Oh yeah. That happened too. Incredible that Clinton lost with that strategy

And you believe Trump do you? It's probably a good idea not to believe a word Trump says. He's known to lie, a lot.

The reporter claims he knew Trump on a first name basis for years.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

If the ends justify the means and who cares about the truth why not just claim he's adolf hitler come back to life. Oh yeah. That happened too. Incredible that Clinton lost with that strategy

What ends and what means, I have no idea what you're saying. EDIT: Clinton did not claim Trump was Hitler come back to life.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by photon

What ends and what means, I have no idea what you're saying.

yeah, just, 'ends justify the means' is a super narrow, hard to understand concept? w/e.

[Drak]

The defense is right up there with, "it's just locker room talk!"

[photon]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

yeah, just, 'ends justify the means' is a super narrow, hard to understand concept? w/e.

The concept isn't hard to understand, but there are a lot of means and a lot of ends out there, I don't understand how you're trying to relate the ends justify the means to your saying the videos are evidence of that's just how he makes fun of people.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Trump knew the reporter. He knew what he was doing and got a lot of chuckles from the crowd (sadly enough).

I'm sorry, but the 'he's done it before' isn't cutting it for me.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

That's not the claim. The videos clearly depict him making the exact same motions to mock people who are flustered, including himself. He claims he didn't know the reporter was disabled, and the evidence is that this is just how he makes fun of people.

If the ends justify the means and who cares about the truth why not just claim he's adolf hitler come back to life. Oh yeah. That happened too. Incredible that Clinton lost with that strategy

You realise that pretending anyone is disabled as an insult is still mocking the disabled don't you? You don't have to mock any particular disabled person to still be considered an ignorant pig for thinking that a disability is a joke.

That Jerry Lewis didn't base his appallingly racist portrayal of a Chinese person on any one specific Chinese guy doesn't make it any less racist.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

The amount of crap Trump is spewing is overwhelming...it's like DDOS (a cyberattack where you overwhelm a system with inputs)...the media and all of us spread our attention around and flock to the next face palm moment day after day.

If the media and the public just made one charge against Trump stick until he felt the repercussions...maybe he would go away.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Ok so clearly the question here is not whether Trump has done that impression before (let's just accept that as fact) but whether or not his imitation previous to the event in question was mocking disabled people and/or meant to be an impersonation of someone with mental disabilities.

I have to think that Ann 'the ####' Coulter (as I like to call her because it rhymes) is probably correct. Trump was not doing an impression of that disabled reporter, he was doing a standard, generic disabled person.

I'm not sure if that's just bad or worse.

[savemedrzaius]

This is like some guy who calls everyone the N-word and then one day he calls a black guy that, but it's okay because he called white people that before...so no biggie?