I want to know why everyone kind of forgot about Arya and her super[assassin]powers. No mention during their strategy meeting...do these guys just truly suck at battle strategy?
I think at least she's not soooo open with it. Sure she can throw knives and got the drop on the Night King but I don't know if everyone realizes she destroyed the Freys while using a dead person's face. The extend of her powers are still hidden to most people.
But let's not forget that they have Bran who can literally see everything that's happening and has been very vocal that he can and they still got ambushed by Euron.
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Do the others know about her "super[assassin]powers"? I think they know that she is skilled with weapons and very sneaky, but I don't think she told them about all her capabilities. Especially if Arya doesn't trust Dany.
I know I'd be asking Arya, So how'd you sneak up on the 8,000 year old super monster with greensight? Anything useful there?
I think at least she's not soooo open with it. Sure she can throw knives and got the drop on the Night King but I don't know if everyone realizes she destroyed the Freys while using a dead person's face. The extend of her powers are still hidden to most people.
But let's not forget that they have Bran who can literally see everything that's happening and has been very vocal that he can and they still got ambushed by Euron.
You would think there would be tons of questions and rumours about who the girl from the north that killed the Freys was (remember she pulled off her mask in front of the staff). No one connected the dots?
You would think there would be tons of questions and rumours about who the girl from the north that killed the Freys was (remember she pulled off her mask in front of the staff). No one connected the dots?
Wait has anyone even mentioned the Freys since that episode?
Wait has anyone even mentioned the Freys since that episode?
Jaime did in the same episode to Cersei when they were standing over the big map of Westeros in King's Landing planning the defense... "You heard what happened to the Freys"
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The show has reinforced this the last few seasons: As much as Tyrion is praised for being smart and brilliant, he has been constantly misjudging and underestimating Cersei. He has almost no clue about her motivations and thought processes.
I have been thinking this since he has been an advisor/hand to the Queen.
Makes peace with the masters and slavers: Fails and they lose their only fleet of ships. Greyworm and Missandei lose face because they felt obligated to back him.
Convinces Dany to leave Darrio and the Second Sons behind to keep rule of salvers bay. Neutral decision in my mind since Essos is now effectively written out of the show (My guess is she goes back there btw).
Convinces Dany not to attack Kings Landing with her largest force that she ever has. Neutral? Hard to say if this was good or bad knowing what we know now.
Convinces Dany to attack Casterly Rock. Fails immensely. They lose Highgarden, Iron Fleet, Unsullied fleet and the Dornish army while capturing a mostly empty Casterly Rock castle.
Convinces Dany to form an alliance with Jon. Good, now has a strong ally with the North.
Convinces Dany to meet with Cersei. Fails, Cersei never sends her army.
Parlay with Cersei. Fails, Missandei dies.
For all the praise he has received he has been a pretty terrible hand to the Queen if you ask me.
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Well, tough to be a good Hand when the Queen enjoys joyriding on dragons and misses - you know - that fleet over there. Cause she forgot.
I think Tyrion's really going through a sunk-cost scenario here: hmm, I bent the knee, and she said she'd break the wheel, and she's not Cersei-level evil, but - goddammit, put down the glue, Dany.
Cersei has always been about herself and the power she can wield. She's standing on the top of the forefront of the castle wall, along with all her advisors/allies. She is in direct harm if she unleashes hell.
All she was trying to do was provoke Danyerys to do what Cersei had always wanted her to do: make Dany the enemy by having her slaughtering innocents in an attempt to get at her for revenge.
The writing may not be as sharp as it was, but it seems to be out of grasp for a solid section of fans.
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The writing may not be as sharp as it was, but it seems to be out of grasp for a solid section of fans.
Speculation that there are 3 more Drogon babies coming? From the opening credits of last episode:
That has been in the opening credits all season so far not just the last episode.
The images depicted on the astrolabe in the opening credits have always used the lion/stag/wolf/dragon images as representations of the different families in the story.
In the previous seasons, it showed:
A dragon beside a volcano, representing the Doom of Valyria
A dragon being killed by a stag, lion, and wolf, representing Robert's Rebellion
A stag standing victorious as a lion and other animals bow down to it, representing Robert claiming the throne
This season, they changed the images on the astrolabe to depict events that have happened on the show.
Now, it starts with a dragon breathing fire on a wall, representing the Night King and Viserion.
That is followed by the image of a skinless man holding the head of a wolf as a lion watches on with a fish in its mouth. Between them is a large stone archway which has the wolf's body hanging from it, filled with arrows. This represents the Red Wedding.
Finally, we get this image of the large dragon with three smaller dragons and a comet in the sky. The most likely interpretation of this is that the large dragon represents Dany and the three smaller dragons are her "children" dragons. The comet in the sky shows the time frame for this because there was a red comet in the sky during the first season of the show.
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Cersei has always been about herself and the power she can wield. She's standing on the top of the forefront of the castle wall, along with all her advisors/allies. She is in direct harm if she unleashes hell.
All she was trying to do was provoke Danyerys to do what Cersei had always wanted her to do: make Dany the enemy by having her slaughtering innocents in an attempt to get at her for revenge.
The writing may not be as sharp as it was, but it seems to be out of grasp for a solid section of fans.
The scene wasn't a huge problem for me, but surely you can understand why people are annoyed with the setup. I mean everyone who tries to kill a Dragon is a crack shot. Bronn hit a dragon, Night King hits one, second dragon is killed with ease. The ballistas destroyed a fleet in a matter of moments. Based on how events have unfolded in the show it seems like Cersei could have easily killed everyone.
I think it's poor writing to have the scene setup how it was in the first place. Perhaps the only reason for the scene was the pregnancy give away by Tyrion? We already knew Cersie is heartless, killing Missandei doesn't need to do that.
