2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Especially surprised at Comixzone.

It might get the Flames McKenna

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Sec, quoting not working, but how sure are you of Marner not moving this off-season? He's a fragile guy who takes things very personally. So while his agent and him probably want the huge point totals pairing with Matthews, there are long memories and he'll be the scapegoat the second the season starts. It weighs on you and he's probably among the worst on hiding his displeasure at brushing of critique. If he goes into UFA status and signs with another team he can only sign for 7 years. So depending how important that 8th year is to him I'd imagine a sign and trade to the right team benefits everyone, if something can be worked out.

I can tell you Marner has no interest in leaving Toronto. If he leaves it will be as a UFA.

[bluejays]

Thanks Sec and Paully. I think otherwise just because I can't see Marner stepping into the fire again. If he doesn't waive then they'd have to move from Tavares. But getting back to Marner, I just can't see his fragile mental state being able to handle coming back. It's a no win and it'll weigh him down until he proves himself in the playoffs. It's a very long time to wait and have it weigh on you to have a chance to prove yourself.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Thanks Sec and Paully. I think otherwise just because I can't see Marner stepping into the fire again. If he doesn't waive then they'd have to move from Tavares. But getting back to Marner, I just can't see his fragile mental state being able to handle coming back. It's a no win and it'll weigh him down until he proves himself in the playoffs. It's a very long time to wait and have it weigh on you to have a chance to prove yourself.

They can’t move Tavares either lol. He’ll put up points in Toronto and then choose exactly where he wants to go.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Thanks Sec and Paully. I think otherwise just because I can't see Marner stepping into the fire again. If he doesn't waive then they'd have to move from Tavares. But getting back to Marner, I just can't see his fragile mental state being able to handle coming back. It's a no win and it'll weigh him down until he proves himself in the playoffs. It's a very long time to wait and have it weigh on you to have a chance to prove yourself.

How can you know that much about his mental state and how he thinks about things and not know what he wants?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Thanks Sec and Paully. I think otherwise just because I can't see Marner stepping into the fire again. If he doesn't waive then they'd have to move from Tavares. But getting back to Marner, I just can't see his fragile mental state being able to handle coming back. It's a no win and it'll weigh him down until he proves himself in the playoffs. It's a very long time to wait and have it weigh on you to have a chance to prove yourself.

Someone posted that Utah could be a player for Tavares and offer him a large 2 year deal as well.

It’s funny all these hometown boys wanting to come home, only for the team to want to ship them out.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Yeah, I'm shocked posters on here are willing to give up significant assets to acquire Laine, considering we're rebuilding. Especially surprised at Comixzone.

It would expedite the losing process.

We’d score lots of goals, and lose lots of games. That’s my ideal outcome.

The most valuable asset the Flames own is their own 2025 1st round pick. They need to do whatever it takes to make that 1st overall.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

You have been in the rebuild camp and propose this ?

This would essentially put a dagger in the rebuild. Moving out 2 pieces who can get us future pieces.

This is what happens when a big name hits the market and to a lesser extent a player like Necas.

Trading Andersson for a reclamation project with talent = Flames 1st in ‘25 gets better. Probably speaks more to the fact that I imagine the Flames will scramble to do whatever they can to extend Andersson as soon as they can (next summer), and I don’t want that to happen.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Someone posted that Utah could be a player for Tavares and offer him a large 2 year deal as well.

It’s funny all these hometown boys wanting to come home, only for the team to want to ship them out.

JT has a full no move though so they cant ship him out anyway

[dino7c]

Flames won't be paying for Laine...they should be looking at it if CBJ is paying to get rid of him

[UKflames]

I'm confused why people want Laine, aren't we supposed to suck next year?

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

It would expedite the losing process.

We’d score lots of goals, and lose lots of games. That’s my ideal outcome.

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I dont want to rebuild like the Oilers

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Just saw Dreger say no way he is traded and he won’t waive his NMC.

It’s his only leverage to force Toronto to sign him, or lose him for nothing.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

How can you know that much about his mental state and how he thinks about things and not know what he wants?

He short, pale, and hairless. Clearly fragile…

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dino7c

JT has a full no move though so they cant ship him out anyway

He's already said he plans on finishing out his contract in Toronto and won't waive his NMC. If anything I wouldn't be surprised to see him finish his career as a Leaf on team friendly contracts going forward. He's still a 30 goal, 60 point player so he's going to look a lot better to Leafs fans when he's getting paid considerably less.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Sorry, who said Huberdeau wants out??

I said he probably would accept a trade. I don’t think anyone said he actually wants out except maybe SEC, but SEC has hated him from day one so it might be wishful thinking.

[Saqe]

Does Laine have any value at this point? 8.7 million for two more years and hasn't had a healthy year for a while plus other issues. The few teams that have space are bottom feeders, why would Laine have any more success in that kind of environment.

He needs to go to an established team with good leadership to get his career back on track. Even if CBJ retains, I don't see them getting anything substantial back in a trade.

[dissentowner]

I don't want Laine, I would rather extend Kuzmenko who I think is the better player and you don't have to give up assets to keep him

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I don't want Laine, I would rather extend Kuzmenko who I think is the better player and you don't have to give up assets to keep him

I'd rather take an asset to take on Laine's contract - he's probably not going to cost much.

And then move Kuzmenko at the 2025 deadline.

And then flip Laine at the 2026 deadline after trying to rehabilitate him.

Neither should be in this team's long term plans either way and neither should be getting an extension.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I'd rather take an asset to take on Laine's contract - he's probably not going to cost much.

And then move Kuzmenko at the 2025 deadline.

And then flip Laine at the 2026 deadline after trying to rehabilitate him.

Neither should be in this team's long term plans either way and neither should be getting an extension.

I disagree. You need a draw for your average fan to come out to games. Kuzmenko has the ability to be that draw. If the goal is to compete when the new building opens and you can get a player that you can probably sign well below the value I think he is capable of I would extend him on a 6 year deal all day.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I disagree. You need a draw for your average fan to come out to games. Kuzmenko has the ability to be that draw. If the goal is to compete when the new building opens and you can get a player that you can probably sign well below the value I think he is capable of I would extend him on a 6 year deal all day.

Why'd Kuzmenko sign a discounted long-term contract to stay in Calgary?

Kuzmenko should not be be re-signed to any contract longer than three years. The Flames would definitely be paying some team to take him as cap dump in year 4 of that deal. Huberdeau owns all of the overpaid vet money in Caglary.