03-31-2021, 11:03 AM
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#4981
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fort McMurray, AB
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Does McAvi have to answer the bell next game? You know, code and all that stuff.
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03-31-2021, 11:04 AM
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#4982
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
Nuge is quite a bit better than the current Monny. He is what we hoped Monny could become, a shut down centre.
Nice allows Edmonton to play the gold dust twins together, as he takes the tough minutes.
He would be a huge lose for Edmonton. He is likely worth a bigger contract.
But you are right, Edmonton is in for a world of contract hurt.
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Only in Edmonton is RNH a "shutdown centre". He's better defensively than Monahan, though not by as much as some people would imagine. Not as good as Backlund. He'd get eaten alive by McDavid, and he's not able to stop Matthews et al.
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03-31-2021, 11:06 AM
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#4983
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Only in Edmonton is RNH a "shutdown centre". He's better defensively than Monahan, though not by as much as some people would imagine. Not as good as Backlund. He'd get eaten alive by McDavid, and he's not able to stop Matthews et al.
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Yeah, RNH is the same as Monahan in my opinion. Put him on the Flames and he would be the whipping boy
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03-31-2021, 11:07 AM
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#4984
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by transplant99
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This is such fake news BS. I don't know if Darren has ever heard of escrow, which is crazy high this year, agent fees, taxes, etc etc etc.
To say this fine was only like a measly $21.43 is very misleading, it's at least like a $50-$60 dollar fine. McDavid should get a refund based on credits for all of the dirty shots he takes every night, he should be allowed to bank them like reward points that he can redeem when the other team isn't playing fair or he gets mad.
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03-31-2021, 11:08 AM
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#4985
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Bonded
Yeah, RNH is the same as Monahan in my opinion. Put him on the Flames and he would be the whipping boy
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People complain that Monahan doesn't do much. RNH is literally called "Ryan Nothing Happens" in Edmonton.
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03-31-2021, 11:09 AM
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#4986
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Jacks
This is such fake news BS. I don't know if Darren has ever heard of escrow, which is crazy high this year, agent fees, taxes, etc etc etc.
To say this fine was only like a measly $21.43 is very misleading, it's at least like a $50-$60 dollar fine. McDavid should get a refund based on credits for all of the dirty shots he takes every night, he should be allowed to bank them like reward points that he can redeem when the other team isn't playing fair or he gets mad.
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You are a joke, McDavid should be suspended at least a game for the blatant dangerous elbow to the head, the play was predatory and unneeded.
100% that if this happens ON McDavid, that player gets the book thrown at him.
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03-31-2021, 11:09 AM
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#4987
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Originally Posted by schteve_d
Does McAvi have to answer the bell next game? You know, code and all that stuff.
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If he doesn't fight Josh Anderson, he's a complete coward and rat. That's how it works. Code.
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03-31-2021, 11:14 AM
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#4988
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
This is going to drive me crazy.
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I fine if you want to feel find just let it rind.
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03-31-2021, 11:18 AM
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#4989
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
Nuge is quite a bit better than the current Monny. He is what we hoped Monny could become, a shut down centre.
Nice allows Edmonton to play the gold dust twins together, as he takes the tough minutes.
He would be a huge lose for Edmonton. He is likely worth a bigger contract.
But you are right, Edmonton is in for a world of contract hurt.
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Not sure about "quite a bit better". It would be interesting to see Monahan with McDavid
Nuge has played about 2 3rds of his even strength ice with Mcdavid. Also gets about 3 mins more ice per game than Monahan and almost a minute more per game on the PP. Nuge and McDavid have been on the ice for about 160 mins on the PP together vs 7 mins for Nuge without McDavid. The oiler top 4 guys basically get to play almost the entire 2 mins of every PP this year but the Flames rarely do this. Monahan may not be as good as Nuge defensively but Nuge is not great defensivley either but he does have seriously inflated numbers offensively due to playing over 70% off his ice time with McDavid
McDavid's numbers are way better away from Nuge as well but that usually means paying with Leon so it does make sense.
Monahan does play with Johnny but he is not McDavid.
If Monahan didn't get hurt all the time he is much better than Nuge IMO. But with the injuries I might take Nuge slightly ahead of Monahan
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Reason: typo
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03-31-2021, 11:21 AM
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#4990
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Macho0978
Not sure about "quite a bit better". It would be interesting to see Monahan with McDavid
Nuge has played about 2 3rds of his even strength ice with Mcdavid. Also gets about 3 mins more ice per game than Monahan and almost a minute more per game on the PP. Nuge and McDavid have been on the ice for about 160 mins on the PP together vs 7 mins for Nuge without McDavid. The oiler top 4 guys basically get to play almost the entire 2 mins of every PP this year but the Flames rarely do this. Monahan may not be as good as Nuge defensively but Nuge is not great defensivley either but he does have seriously inflated numbers offensively due to playing over 70% off his ice time with McDavid
McDavid's numbers are way better away from Nuge as well but that usually means paying with Leon so it does make sense.
Monahan does play with Johnny but he is not McDavid.
If Monahan didn't get hurt all the time he is much better than Nuge IMO. But with the injuries I might take Nuge slightly ahead of Monahan
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This plus Monahan never plays wing which would be a nice option. Monahan with McDavid would have cracked 40 goals at some point.
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03-31-2021, 01:19 PM
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#4991
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Monahan is significantly better than Nuge. Nuge has never hit 30 goals. he averages only 60 points. Nuges better seasons we would consider bad seasons for Monahan. This is ridiculous.
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03-31-2021, 01:20 PM
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#4992
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
This is going to drive me crazy.
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03-31-2021, 01:37 PM
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#4993
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
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It makes victims of us all.
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03-31-2021, 01:41 PM
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#4994
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
Monahan is significantly better than Nuge. Nuge has never hit 30 goals. he averages only 60 points. Nuges better seasons we would consider bad seasons for Monahan. This is ridiculous.
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Putting any bias aside, imo they are equal.
For their careers one is -39, the other is -41.
PPG in their career is 0.75 to 0.73. So offensively they are pretty much the same point producer.
I don't think anyone can say either is significantly better than the other. One way or another one might be slightly better at best than the other at most.
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03-31-2021, 01:42 PM
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#4995
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Strathmore AB
Exp:  
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Originally Posted by Macho0978
Not sure what the oilers would trade. If they did I assume their first isn’t enough. Down picks already and important players being ufas can they trade top prospects or firsts to get him
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They will want a defensive prospect as well as a least a pick & roster player. If I was Holland I would offer Yamamoto, Samorukov, & their 6th pick in 2021,or 4th in 2022. That gives Nashville some decent pieces to build or barter with, & gives Edmonton roster room to work Holloway in over the next season or 2. Not to mention relieves them of cap space that would have gone to re-signing Yamamoto, to go to Ekholms' cap hit. As you say the Oilers don't have a lot of picks or cap room to work with for the next year or so; they are going to be forced to walk away from or trade some of their UFA's & rely on entry level players to survive.
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03-31-2021, 01:44 PM
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#4996
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Lifetime Suspension
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The NHL has no balls holding McDavid to a different standard than every one else and not suspending him 1-2 games for that trash elbow.
A fine does less than nothing to adjust his poor response to his team getting dummied.
Maybe the players will seek justice with fisticuffs. I suppose we'll see what captain entitlement is made of.
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03-31-2021, 01:48 PM
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#4997
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by OILFAN #81
Putting any bias aside...
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Pppfffffffftttt.
Take that nonsense somewhere else.
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03-31-2021, 02:12 PM
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#4998
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
The NHL has no balls holding McDavid to a different standard than every one else and not suspending him 1-2 games for that trash elbow.
A fine does less than nothing to adjust his poor response to his team getting dummied.
Maybe the players will seek justice with fisticuffs. I suppose we'll see what captain entitlement is made of.
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There is no way McElbow fights someone in response.
It's not like he's an Iggy where he is a superstar AND can hold his own. Iggy was a massive 6'1. McLottery is only *checks notes* oh dear. 6'1.
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03-31-2021, 02:18 PM
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#4999
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
There is no way McElbow fights someone in response.
It's not like he's an Iggy where he is a superstar AND can hold his own. Iggy was a massive 6'1. McLottery is only *checks notes* oh dear. 6'1.
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Even Crosby at his measly 5’11” has 8 NHL fights. Most recently against PLD.
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03-31-2021, 02:48 PM
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#5000
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Franchise Player
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I'm sure oiler fan logic will be that Kotkaniemi should fight Kassian. Kassian is afterall the keeper of the code.
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