Craig's List 2014 Prospects

[theoforever]

Originally Posted by Hackey

It's not really after the fact at all. They went way off the board. If you check the draft thread you'd see a lot of people were hoping we would take Teravainen when he was still available at 14. Maatta was also a guy a lot of people wanted when we dropped down. He went the pick right after. Hertl was also on the radar. It is what it is though. All we can do now is hope Jankowski turns into the player Feaster and Weisbrod thought he could be.

Flames board didn't have these guys. Tired of constant Janko and Feaster bashing. We got the kid, he is young and still developing and is far from bust. Sieloff could still be a player as well.
What some people on the board were saying may have been the way to go, but everyone has an opinion and if thousand monkeys type for......
Majority of people that make recommendations most likely have never seen those kids play.

I like Sam Bennett in this draft but what do I know, a few highlight videos and bunch of reviews. If we pass on him and he becomes a star I could say I told you so. Odds are, I would be wrong on every other pick, but that one time I was right and bunch of pros were wrong.

[Scoreface]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I have a hard time believing the team would trade down the first top 5 pick in Calgary Flames history.

I really don't think that weighs in at all.

To me: Ekblad is 1 considering our need on D, especially a RD who has all the tools to be a Jones, but maybe not quite. So what? Still a great top pairing guy if all goes well.

Bennett is the second choice. He had more speed than any other forward and backs it up with..gumption. A good playmaker but not great and has a great shot. Needs time to develop his size to fit into his style. That's ok, and I think management would be too.

The others probably don't fit into their game plan the way they would like. Draisaitl & Dal Colle. Not going to discredit them or elaborate on them, but I feel they may not be as high on them to take them at 4.

Take it or leave it. I don't see either taken at 4. Reinhart either.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by theoforever

I like Sam Bennett in this draft but what do I know, a few highlight videos and bunch of reviews. If we pass on him and he becomes a star I could say I told you so. Odds are, I would be wrong on every other pick, but that one time I was right and bunch of pros were wrong.

The problem isn't us passing on him, the problem is if he even lands to us.

Sam B. is most likely getting picked in the top 3, that's why we are hoping we somehow get to snatch him at #4. I really, really hope that team up North picks Draisaitl.

[theoforever]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

The problem isn't us passing on him, the problem is if he even lands to us.

Sam B. is most likely getting picked in the top 3, that's why we are hoping we somehow get to snatch him at #4. I really, really hope that team up North picks Draisaitl.

I don't think he will drop to us and if he did no way we would pass.
I just gave an example of a player I want to be a Flame.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by theoforever

I don't think he will drop to us and if he did no way we would pass.
I just gave an example of a player I want to be a Flame.

I want him too . I think Florida picking Bennett or Reinhart could get Treliving to trade up for Buffalo. I'd rather us take Ekblad than Edmonton.

I've said this before, but I think whoever Florida picks first will give us a better stance on who we will draft.

And for those that don't think we would trade down, I think I would if the top 3 were chosen -- but only if someone really overpaid.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by Scoreface

They're trading down if their guy isn't available. CP explodes, but I can see it happening.

Not going to happen.

[OzSome]

To be honest, the only players I am familiar with are Sam Reinhart and Jake Virtanen because I've seen them play a few times. Ekblad, Dal Colle and Ryan MacInnis I've seen them play once on that Prospect Game. On that same game I was impressed with Claude Lemeiux' son. I only seen Bennett on some YouTube highlight video. From what I heard he is good so if Calgary is fortunate enough to draft him, i hope all the reviews are true. As Virtanen, I sure hope Vancouver does not draft him. I like this kid but as soon as he becomes Canucks' property, he's done for me.

[theoforever]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I want him too . I think Florida picking Bennett or Reinhart could get Treliving to trade up for Buffalo. I'd rather us take Ekblad than Edmonton.

I've said this before, but I think whoever Florida picks first will give us a better stance on who we will draft.

And for those that don't think we would trade down, I think I would if the top 3 were chosen -- but only if someone really overpaid.

I can see why Florida would not want a dman at #1, as they take a while to make an impact. Our only hope is that they do and Sabres take Reinhart.
That would leave Edmonton with a choice.
Any other order for the top 2 and we are left with the german kid.

[YogiBerra]

The german kid could turn out to be the best of the bunch with Hartley there to teach him how to compete every game!

[ForeverFlameFan]

I think Draisaitl would be a great acquisition to the Flames. And if he turns out to be a Kopitar comparable as they say he is, I am all for it.

[Tinordi]

I don't think Draisaitl will be there by pick four. The size factor is just too tempting. I'm actually thinking we'll see another Seth Jones situation where Ekblad could be the one dropping.

Perfect honestly. We are most in need of a top minute defenceman. Very weak defensive depth on the farm. Just need another top five pick for 2015 where the real talent is at. Then the emergence for this team should be very quick.

[icarus]

I'm warming up to the Draisaitl idea because I like the idea of Johnny Hockey having some big + talented linemates. Do we know much about Draisaitl's character in sticking up for linemates, mixing it up after the whistle etc? I seem to recall hearing he could play more physically for a big man.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

There is no board

Apparently there is because before the draft those players were ranked higher than Jankowski and now a few years later they are still ranked higher thank Jankowski. Some a considerable amount. So what looked like a questionable pick with better players on the board then still looks like that today until he proves otherwise.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I think Draisaitl would be a great acquisition to the Flames. And if he turns out to be a Kopitar comparable as they say he is, I am all for it.

A player even close to Kopitar would be amazing. If the big three are gone when it's our turn to pick I'm kinda hoping we take him at this point.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

There is no board

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Conroy on the Fan 960... Conroy does say they did remove some players from their draft list in the next 14 ranked prospects.

That's the board - the ranked prospects. Each team has a draft list - that list can be compared to the prospect ranking that is an aggregate of various scouting lists. Thus the term 'going off the board' - a pick demonstrating that a team's list differs substantially from the aggregate list.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Hackey

If the big three are gone when it's our turn to pick I'm kinda hoping we take him at this point.

The big three?
On who's list?
Draisaitl may be on top of lots of lists, including the Flames. Who knows.
His play at WHC sure isn't hurting him.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

The big three?
On who's list?
Draisaitl may be on top of lots of lists, including the Flames. Who knows.
His play at WHC sure isn't hurting him.

I think it's safe to refer to the three who have taken turns at 1st overall on scouting reports as the big three.

We're all aware teams have different orders, we're talking about the information we have access to.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

That's the board - the ranked prospects. Each team has a draft list - that list can be compared to the prospect ranking that is an aggregate of various scouting lists. Thus the term 'going off the board' - a pick demonstrating that a team's list differs substantially from the aggregate list.

Fairly sure Conroy was talking about their own list. Guys they had ranked in their draft board but then removed totally for whatever reason(s). He said these guys still could be 1st round players but not Calgary Flame type players.

I'm sure all teams rank players based on an aggregate of their scouts, then the higher ups totally remove guys based on fatal flaws in their games. Conroy wasn't talking about The Hockey News, he was talking about the Flames list.

[JJ1532]

One of Ekblad, Reinhart, Bennett or Draisaitl will definitely be available come our pick. Whichever one is available is the one we take IMO. I'd be a little annoyed if the first 3 are gone and we pass up on Draisaitl.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

That's the board - the ranked prospects. Each team has a draft list - that list can be compared to the prospect ranking that is an aggregate of various scouting lists. Thus the term 'going off the board' - a pick demonstrating that a team's list differs substantially from the aggregate list.

We have no access to this "aggregate" list of all the teams lists therefore we cannot compare anything to it.

For all we know Jankowski was top 20 on several teams lists and probably wasn't in the first round on some others. Still pointless to say he was off the board, there is no board, and there is no aggregate list we have access to.