Well since everyone in the world is involved in the conspiracy except for the strident, brave and insightfull Truthers, I would say that the numbers favor the forces of evil.
"So many 9/11 witnesses have been mysteriously DIEING".
Wow, I have never seen a 9/11 truth video lose all credibility so quickly. Does the video go on to explain that the WTC collapse must have been a controlled demolition because the square root of a piece of steel is twice the temperature of a diesel jet fuel fire??
The one about Major General David Wherly -- according to the video this guy made the call to scramble air force jets in Washington on 9/11. We all know that happened. Nobody ever tried to cover that up. It wasn't a secret, ever.
The movie you posted basically says he was murdered in a staged train crash eight years after the fact, ominously adding that the train was "under automatic, rather than manual, control".
Does this not seem ridiculous to you, for several reasons? It should. It should seem ridiculous to anybody. I mean think about it, just for a minute.
If you want to believe it was an inside job or a conspiracy or whatever, go nuts, but you aren't going to convince anybody of anything with this kind of dimwitted garbage.
And this is my biggest problem with conpiracy theorists or truthers. To support their claims they have to add more unprovable and ludicris theories.
Every train accident, car accident and plane accident is suddenly staged to wipe out witnesses. Every heart attack is caused by the UN Intelligence agency injecting poison into their victim.
This is a funny piece of fiction film that belongs in the humor thread. But in terms of making me open my eyes, gasp loudly and proclaim that the U.S. government was behind 9/11, it does nothing of the kind.
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And this is my biggest problem with conpiracy theorists or truthers. To support their claims they have to add more unprovable and ludicris theories.
Every train accident, car accident and plane accident is suddenly staged to wipe out witnesses. Every heart attack is caused by the UN Intelligence agency injecting poison into their victim.
This is a funny piece of fiction film that belongs in the humor thread. But in terms of making me open my eyes, gasp loudly and proclaim that the U.S. government was behind 9/11, it does nothing of the kind.
Here's another point: He died when he was 62. Average life expectancy in the USA is about 78 years old with a standard deviation of about 16.5.
Without getting TOO specific about distributions and such, his lifespan fits within with the expected average quite nicely.
edit: Also, if every death of someone of importance in the 9/11 story line is a carefully planned murder, then ponder this: Who's doing this and how does the "George W. Bush vs the pretzel" incident of '02 fit in with this narrative? Furthermore, how did he of all people manage to outsmart his assassin? If he needs to be offed then who is in charge of this whole thing? The saucer people?!
Here's another point: He died when he was 62. Average life expectancy in the USA is about 78 years old with a standard deviation of about 16.5.
Without getting TOO specific about distributions and such, his lifespan fits within with the expected average quite nicely.
edit: Also, if every death of someone of importance in the 9/11 story line is a carefully planned murder, then ponder this: Who's doing this and how does the "George W. Bush vs the pretzel" incident of '02 fit in with this narrative? Furthermore, how did he of all people manage to outsmart his assassin? If he needs to be offed then who is in charge of this whole thing? The saucer people?!
I just go back to the overall incompetance of the CIA in trying to zap castro with poison pens and beard gell, and then think of the hideous competance required for the U.S. government to pull off a 9/11 conspiracy and I kinda laugh.
I can see the meeting now
George W - "Gentlemen, we need to fake a terrorist attack on U.S. soil to give us the justification to kick that Saddam fellows a$$"
Cia guy - "Can we use lasers, I want to use a giant laser"
Dick Cheney - "We could make everyone in the World Trade Center have a heart attack, I've had 14, they're not that hard to create"
CIA guy - "One things for sure, we'll need 7 guys for this"
Bush - "7 guys to pull off this plot, we'd need pilots, soldiers to kidnap and kill passengers, demolition experts, a rich jew, and every reporter in the U.S. will have to be convinced not to investigate"
Cheney - "Don't we need senate oversight for special operations"
Bush - "F%%% the senate Cheney, they voted down my guns for puppies bill"
CIA Guy - "I'm telling you, giant space lasers . . . yeah I'm liking this idea. I need a budget for remote control airplanes, and trains to kill any whistle blowers"
Bush - "Look, we're not using lasers, why can't we use cruise missiles"
CIA Guy - "We'd have to make em look like planes, I'll need a budget to buy all of the Lego on the east coast"
Bush - "Make sure you get all the same color or the planes will look stupid"
Cheney - "You know whats stupid, this f'n pace maker, somebody needs to bring me a human baby, I'm starving"
Bush - "Speaking of human babies do we need to involve Satan again, I mean he did do a good job of delivering Florida"
Satan walks into the room
Satan - "What's up bitches?"
CIA Guy - "We need to fake a terrorist attack on the U.S. using planes, our top secret super demolition charges, the United States Marine Corp, lasers and lego"
Bush - "No Lasers"
CIA guy starts crying - "Can we at least order Chinese"
Satan - "I need to call the pope, we're gonna need some of his super Jesuit commandos"
An Alien walks into the room
Alien - "Hey guys, we just abducted Randy Quaid, anyone want his brain . . ."
To be continued
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Dick Cheney - "We could make everyone in the World Trade Center have a heart attack, I've had 14, they're not that hard to create"
CIA guy - "One things for sure, we'll need 7 guys for this"
Bush - "7 guys to pull off this plot, we'd need pilots, soldiers to kidnap and kill passengers, demolition experts, a rich jew, and every reporter in the U.S. will have to be convinced not to investigate"
Woah. this is starting to come together here.
14 heart attacks.
7 guys.
7 guys
7+7 = 14. => 1+4 = 5.
14-5 = 9
14/7=2. => 2 = 1 + 1
This all obviously converges to ones answer... 9/11. Finally, a shred of proof that points to these guys doing it.
The only flaw in your transcription of events is how does Satan enter the room when he's already been there from the start talking about his heart attacks?
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I just go back to the overall incompetance of the CIA in trying to zap castro with poison pens and beard gell, and then think of the hideous competance required for the U.S. government to pull off a 9/11 conspiracy and I kinda laugh.
I can see the meeting now
George W - "Gentlemen, we need to fake a terrorist attack on U.S. soil to give us the justification to kick that Saddam fellows a$$"
Cia guy - "Can we use lasers, I want to use a giant laser"
Dick Cheney - "We could make everyone in the World Trade Center have a heart attack, I've had 14, they're not that hard to create"
CIA guy - "One things for sure, we'll need 7 guys for this"
Bush - "7 guys to pull off this plot, we'd need pilots, soldiers to kidnap and kill passengers, demolition experts, a rich jew, and every reporter in the U.S. will have to be convinced not to investigate"
Cheney - "Don't we need senate oversight for special operations"
Bush - "F%%% the senate Cheney, they voted down my guns for puppies bill"
CIA Guy - "I'm telling you, giant space lasers . . . yeah I'm liking this idea. I need a budget for remote control airplanes, and trains to kill any whistle blowers"
Bush - "Look, we're not using lasers, why can't we use cruise missiles"
CIA Guy - "We'd have to make em look like planes, I'll need a budget to buy all of the Lego on the east coast"
Bush - "Make sure you get all the same color or the planes will look stupid"
Cheney - "You know whats stupid, this f'n pace maker, somebody needs to bring me a human baby, I'm starving"
Bush - "Speaking of human babies do we need to involve Satan again, I mean he did do a good job of delivering Florida"
Satan walks into the room
Satan - "What's up bitches?"
CIA Guy - "We need to fake a terrorist attack on the U.S. using planes, our top secret super demolition charges, the United States Marine Corp, lasers and lego"
Bush - "No Lasers"
CIA guy starts crying - "Can we at least order Chinese"
Satan - "I need to call the pope, we're gonna need some of his super Jesuit commandos"
An Alien walks into the room
Alien - "Hey guys, we just abducted Randy Quaid, anyone want his brain . . ."
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So that's what Radiohead was doing on their 3 year hiatus between Kid A/Amnesiac and HTTT.
If Klosterman is making the point that Radiohead's Kid A was about modern society existing on the brink between order and chaos, then it's a good point. I guess related to the sensationalist 9/11 attacks to gain readership.
I often find Kid A to have more relevance now than it did when it was released. It incorporates modern thought and perspective into a historical and philosophical perspective. There's no moralizing about the evils of technology or the modern world. It more acknowledges the technological world as fact and works within that.
It's critique lies more in how people engage the modern world. Optimistic is about how modern, educated people can be just as blind and hypocritical in how they perceive the world as people have been in the past. In the Western world, people sort of engage in a false reality of humanitarianism and platitudes while in African world it's horrifying chaos. Emphasized in the juxtaposition between "you can try the best you can, the best you can is good" and the detailed descriptions of death and destruction. Radiohead's point is not to moralize, rather to point out even though many think that education and science have separated modern society from religion, we still engage in the same thought processes through different outlets.
Not wanting to write a novel, I will say other songs engage other aspects of modernity. Loneliness, alienation, joy (yes, Radiohead believes in joy), paranoia etc.
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So that's what Radiohead was doing on their 3 year hiatus between Kid A/Amnesiac and HTTT.
If Klosterman is making the point that Radiohead's Kid A was about modern society existing on the brink between order and chaos, then it's a good point. I guess related to the sensationalist 9/11 attacks to gain readership.
I often find Kid A to have more relevance now than it did when it was released. It incorporates modern thought and perspective into a historical and philosophical perspective. There's no moralizing about the evils of technology or the modern world. It more acknowledges the technological world as fact and works within that.
It's critique lies more in how people engage the modern world. Optimistic is about how modern, educated people can be just as blind and hypocritical in how they perceive the world as people have been in the past. In the Western world, people sort of engage in a false reality of humanitarianism and platitudes while in African world it's horrifying chaos. Emphasized in the juxtaposition between "you can try the best you can, the best you can is good" and the detailed descriptions of death and destruction. Radiohead's point is not to moralize, rather to point out even though many think that education and science have separated modern society from religion, we still engage in the same thought processes through different outlets.
Not wanting to write a novel, I will say other songs engage other aspects of modernity. Loneliness, alienation, joy (yes, Radiohead believes in joy), paranoia etc.
Your post has caused me to ponder a question, to which I'm not sure there's an answer:
Which are more annoying, pretentious Radiohead fans, or 9/11 conspiracy theorists/truthers?
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