2024 MLB Season Thread

[jayswin]

MLB is so lame. I especially hate them talking up storylines when speaking of the Yankees and Dodgers. Here's a storyline - If you include Ohtani instead of that BS 'we're not actually paying him on the salary cap' then you have the top 3, record spending teams left in the playoffs right now in the Yankees, Mets and Dodgers.

Woopdy F'in doo. So boring. You have no right to speak to storylines when you have three teams competing to purchase a championship left in the playoffs.

[browna]

Soto’s price went up a fair bit this series.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by jayswin

MLB is so lame. I especially hate them talking up storylines when speaking of the Yankees and Dodgers. Here's a storyline - If you include Ohtani instead of that BS 'we're not actually paying him on the salary cap' then you have the top 3, record spending teams left in the playoffs right now in the Yankees, Mets and Dodgers.

Woopdy F'in doo. So boring. You have no right to speak to storylines when you have three teams competing to purchase a championship left in the playoffs.

It's lame to see the top spending teams in the World Series...but it's not going to be boring.

If it ends up being Yankees - Dodgers you have two of the most storied franchises in baseball history and the likely AL and NL MVPs going head to head.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It's lame to see the top spending teams in the World Series...but it's not going to be boring.

If it ends up being Yankees - Dodgers you have two of the most storied franchises in baseball history and the likely AL and NL MVPs going head to head.

Sure, for you and others. But for me it's nothing more than purchased success. There's no storyline or storied franchise stuff beyond the payroll for me. Just so, so lame.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by jayswin

MLB is so lame. I especially hate them talking up storylines when speaking of the Yankees and Dodgers. Here's a storyline - If you include Ohtani instead of that BS 'we're not actually paying him on the salary cap' then you have the top 3, record spending teams left in the playoffs right now in the Yankees, Mets and Dodgers.

Woopdy F'in doo. So boring. You have no right to speak to storylines when you have three teams competing to purchase a championship left in the playoffs.

Only one of them has made the past 5 world series, and that one barely counts in the weird covid year.

NHL, NBA, and NFL all have had much more familiar finalists in the last 5 years.

Also your Ohtani comment is kind of nonsense and inaccurate.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Sure, for you and others. But for me it's nothing more than purchased success. There's no storyline or storied franchise stuff beyond the payroll for me. Just so, so lame.

If the Jays signed Ohtani they'd be in the exact same position and I doubt any of us would be complaining.

If this was constant then I'd agree but Yankees haven't been in the WS for a while and even the Dodgers haven't been able to get over the hump.

It's going to be a fun series with some of the best players in the world being showcased. It will be fun.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by flamingred89

Cleveland's bullpen really let them down this series.

No matter who comes out of the NL is basically a dream matchup for the MLB.

Yeah. Although in the 10th today if they get even 1 out on that ground ball Soto never makes it up to batt and they play the 11th.

Clase was dialed in today - I would have pitched him at least a couple more batters.

[jayswin]

Stop finding fun in sports, guys!!! Okay fine, I'll be less serious and find fun what's supposed to be an escape from regular life..

[browna]

Yankees havent been in WS for 15 years.
Jays had 7th highest payroll in MLB and are out in July. Last year was the year with the Yanks in a down year.
Takes more than purchasing power when it comes to the playoffs.
Mets have shown that time and again, and the Yanks.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by browna

Soto’s price went up a fair bit this series.

Soto is fully backwards now; winning a title costs him money.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Soto is fully backwards now; winning a title costs him money.

How do you figure? Cohen is going to be even more motivated to spend on the Mets after he gets a taste of playoff success but doesn't have a title.

If he ends up being the hero on a Yankees WS winner there'll be huge pressure on the Yankees front office to re-sign him. Two rich, motivated bidders is enough to get a high price.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

How do you figure? Cohen is going to be even more motivated to spend on the Mets after he gets a taste of playoff success but doesn't have a title.

If he ends up being the hero on a Yankees WS winner there'll be huge pressure on the Yankees front office to re-sign him. Two rich, motivated bidders is enough to get a high price.

The Yankees won't be as desperate because they won. Whereas if they lose, they haven't won in 16 years.

Cohen might be desperate but he'll be bidding against himself

Dodgers winning would be the best scenario for Soto

[bluejays]

Apparently Jays preparing a $600M offer for Soto (read this somewhere about a week ago). I don't think the Yanks will go there (they'd have done Ohtani last season but they didn't entertain that). If the Jays offer $600M I think it would be a mistake. Ohtani had the marketing angle, and did both pitching/batting potentially. Soto at his position in OF isn't that highly desirable. So you're hoping he continues his batting forever and sells tickets/jerseys/better TV. Not sure he moves the needle that much for that $600M price tag. $450M I could see, but these extreme numbers are insane.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Apparently Jays preparing a $600M offer for Soto (read this somewhere about a week ago). I don't think the Yanks will go there (they'd have done Ohtani last season but they didn't entertain that). If the Jays offer $600M I think it would be a mistake. Ohtani had the marketing angle, and did both pitching/batting potentially. Soto at his position in OF isn't that highly desirable. So you're hoping he continues his batting forever and sells tickets/jerseys/better TV. Not sure he moves the needle that much for that $600M price tag. $450M I could see, but these extreme numbers are insane.

Soto turns 26 on Friday. He gets that kind of offer because he still has 10 years until he finishes his age 35 season. Theres 3-4 good productive years with him that you normally dont get in free agents .

[browna]

Yeah I don't think the Yanks care either way. He won't resign there for any sort of discount and don't think the Yanks will pay him Judge money.

When the Yanks went back to SD early this year, and the talk about how he felt to leave SD, he didn't committ to the Yankees and even Judge said at the time Soto has to get his full value at FA time.

I don't think the Mets will be bidding against themselves. Soto has already won a title with WSH no matter how this WS goes.

Soto will go to the highest bidder. Having Vlad as a DR spokesman (they appear to be friends) won't hurt though.

Jays will have to overpay, no matter how good their facilities are or how well they treat players. They've wasted the last season and a half of a decent window and still spend a ton of money. When they wasted half a season in 2013, they came back and spent the next two seasons with Price and Tulo etc.

If it's $600M, my Rogers phone and cable bill will go up $10. Meh.

STH will get bent over if they really splash cash to Soto and others this offseason, but...

[Senator Clay Davis]

I would be surprised if it wasn't the Yankees or Mets, Dodgers always a sleeper these days. Jays maybe a wing and a prayer, but would probably have to hit $700 million for him to do it.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Soto turns 26 on Friday. He gets that kind of offer because he still has 10 years until he finishes his age 35 season. Theres 3-4 good productive yesrs with him that you normallt dont get in free agents .

Yeah, I'm still not convinced his ROI is positive at that price. Especially with the holes they need to fill.

Originally Posted by browna

Yeah I don't think the Yanks care either way. He won't resign there for any sort of discount and don't think the Yanks will pay him Judge money.

When the Yanks went back to SD early this year, and the talk about how he felt to leave SD, he didn't committ to the Yankees and even Judge said at the time Soto has to get his full value.

I don't think the Mets will be bidding against themselves. Soto has already won a title with WSH no matter how this WS goes.

Soto will go to the highest bidder. Having Vlad as a DR spokesman (they appear to be friends) won't hurt though.

Jays will have to overpay, no matter how good their facilities are or how well they treat players. They've wasted the last season and a half of a decent window and still spend a ton of money. When they wasted half a season in 2013, they came back and spent the next two seasons with Price and Tulo etc.

If it's $600M, my Rogers phone and cable bill will go up $10. Meh.

STH will get bent over if they really splash cash to Soto and others this offseason, but...

The other thing I read recently was the Jays interest in Bregman. I'd be moreso in favour of that given his position importance at 3rd. I suspect if they are able to get 2 marquee free agents then Bo will be dealt. I have super confidence in Bo given his past career, but economically I suspect his value as a young SS is very high despite an off year. Again, given the holes they need to fill, one of Vlad or Bo probably need to be dealt to get quality and quantity distribution.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by bluejays

The other thing I read recently was the Jays interest in Bregman. I'd be moreso in favour of that given his position importance at 3rd. I suspect if they are able to get 2 marquee free agents then Bo will be dealt. I have super confidence in Bo given his past career, but economically I suspect his value as a young SS is very high despite an off year. Again, given the holes they need to fill, one of Vlad or Bo probably need to be dealt to get quality and quantity distribution.

I completely disagree. Bergman is 30 and at this point is an above average bat. It's like Chapman all over again. His offence is in decline and you're assigning too much value to the defence.

Soto on the other hand would be the best left handed bat they've had since Delgado.

[Strange Brew]

Overpaying for Bregman is the Springer mistake all over. His best years are behind him and IMO of biggest concern this year was his decline in walks. He always had a great eye at the plate. He’s still one of the better third basemen out there but that’s a Boras bidding war you don’t want to win.

I hate the Yankees and Dodgers but it makes for good viewing. No matter what team you are a fan of, you know who your nemesis is. No one wants to see the Royals and Diamondbacks.

[KelVarnsen]

So all Jays fans are cheering for the Dodgers right?