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Old 06-30-2023, 04:49 PM   #481
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I actually think the Andersson/Anderssen/Anderson varieties are more difficult to get right.
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Old 06-30-2023, 05:01 PM   #482
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Old 06-30-2023, 05:30 PM   #483
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Won't be hard after he's traded!
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Same with Tofolli - he's no longer on the team. So, who cares.
Apparently it’s still hard after he’s traded.
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Old 07-01-2023, 09:36 AM   #484
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Wonder if Erik Karlsson is holding up the hanifin market. Seattle Carolina and Pittsburgh all interested per tsn. If he goes, maybe others will circle back to hanifin.
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Old 07-01-2023, 09:41 AM   #485
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Probably depends on how much salary San Jose is willing to eat.
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Old 07-01-2023, 09:56 AM   #486
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This probably would have been pretty decent to me. I think Pittsburgh is going to be decently bad pretty quickly.
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This probably would have been pretty decent to me. I think Pittsburgh is going to be decently bad pretty quickly.
Man I would have been inclined to take that too, ‘part of the package’ too?? Lol, seems too good to be true.
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Old 07-01-2023, 09:59 AM   #488
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Twitter still down, summarize?
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Old 07-01-2023, 10:00 AM   #489
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This probably would have been pretty decent to me. I think Pittsburgh is going to be decently bad pretty quickly.
That lines up with Conroy's comment on not wanting picks in the future because "for the Calgary Flames it's about right now"

That package...doesn't floor me, but I guess the market is what it is. I do want them to gather additional picks...if we can land Pittsburgh's 1st + 3rd (or 2nd?) with some conditions on when we get to choose, that's not bad because I think Pittsburgh could potentially end up holding decent value picks.

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Old 07-01-2023, 10:00 AM   #490
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Can file this under the “didn’t get done” side of things at the draft. Pittsburgh and Calgary we’re pretty far down the road on a Hanifin and Vladar package.Poulin, Pickering 90th (2023) and conditional 1st (calgary choice between 24 or 25) part of the package going back #Flames
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Old 07-01-2023, 10:05 AM   #491
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That’s probably the best Pitt can offer. The key piece is the first. Poulin reeks of bust
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Old 07-01-2023, 10:08 AM   #492
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That seems like the lowest level of return that we would want for Hanifin, not a terrible deal but not really that appealing.

I think any deal with Pitt should include Pickering and Yager but I understand if they didn't want to do that. If they say no to including both I think you just move on to a different tea.
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That’s pretty underwhelming, Poulin is a busy at this point and Pickering is very raw and may not account for anything either.
So essentially a 3rd and 1st for Hanifin, no immediate help which is probably why CGY said no.
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JVR to Boston for $1M. Weird.

...which is related to Hanifin's trade value because of...reasons...not wrong thread or anything...
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That’s pretty underwhelming, Poulin is a busy at this point and Pickering is very raw and may not account for anything either.
So essentially a 3rd and 1st for Hanifin, no immediate help which is probably why CGY said no.
I think Pickering is a high floor but very low ceiling player
The rationale would be to take the deal for the 2025 pick which could be high. Pittsburghs window is closing fast
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This probably would have been pretty decent to me. I think Pittsburgh is going to be decently bad pretty quickly.
That wouldn't have been terrible
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The prospects are pretty weak in the offer, but the pick is a true wildcard and if it comes with limited protection could if been worth it.

I think if it was a top 3 protected 2024/25 1st + oliver joseph, it would be a good deal. Helps now and later
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I think Pickering is a high floor but very low ceiling player
The rationale would be to take the deal for the 2025 pick which could be high. Pittsburghs window is closing fast
Agreed on all points, the pick if not lottery protected could give the flames a shot at some generational talent.
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Old 07-01-2023, 10:34 AM   #499
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That wouldn't have been terrible
I disagree. Pickering is meh, Poulin is never going to become anything, the Penguins will try and challenge for the next few years they have Malkin and Crosby still going and they have Dubas steering the ship now so I think they will be bubble team at worst for the next few years so that 1st is probably anywhere from 16 on. I think Conroy can do better if he waits.
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This probably would have been pretty decent to me. I think Pittsburgh is going to be decently bad pretty quickly.
They should have taken this deal. 1st in 25 could have been a good pick up as Crosby would be closing in on 40.

Vladar options are starting to dwindle as teams pick up cheap back ups. If he made less money I would be ok to hold onto him.

Trading these 2 now adds $7 mil in cap space.

I'd love the Flames to use that money on some cheap options.

Lucas Carlson is someone I hope the Flames target as depth on d.

Also would love Sanheim if the prices is much cheaper than this return
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