Lebrun: Flames "getting late in the process" of hiring a GM

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Let’s be real, no actual candidates have any reason to consider the Calgary Flames tire fire when there are other option available.

This organization needs a complete, and improbable, enema before the actual healing begins.

Except there are more candidates than jobs. If you want to move from AGM to GM are you really going to say, nope it’s Pittsburg or bust?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

i'm just being emotional because of the sting of chuck kicking ass

I get it my friend. It feels like we can never have nice things.

[FanIn80]

Don't feel like making a new thread for this, and it kind of fits into this one anyway, so I'll put this here...

I was poking around some playoff OT stats and just saw that Calgary is tied with New Jersey for the worst overall OT record in the playoffs with 19 wins and 30 losses (0.388 w%). We are dead last on home ice, going 8 and 17 all time (0.320%). (https://records.nhl.com/standings/al...time-standings)

Sooo... about that GM search...

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I get it my friend. It feels like we can never have nice things.

it feels almost as bad as 2004 honestly

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

We are dead last on home ice, going 8 and 17 all time (0.320%). ([url]https://records.nhl.com/standings/all-time-playoff-overtime-standings[/url.

good time for a new building! Start a winning home record

[Sandman]

I just heard that there's speculation that the reason the Flames granted permission to Tre to talk to other teams, is so Toronto would grant them permission to talk to Dubas? Anyone hear this?

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I just heard that there's speculation that the reason the Flames granted permission to Tre to talk to other teams, is so Toronto would grant them permission to talk to Dubas? Anyone hear this?

Sounded like Dubas was taking a year off.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I just heard that there's speculation that the reason the Flames granted permission to Tre to talk to other teams, is so Toronto would grant them permission to talk to Dubas? Anyone hear this?

My understanding was that it was TO or nothing for Dubas. Honestly, why would he want anything to do with this horse’s ass of a situation?

I think the reason Tre has permission now is because the organization caught flak for it, and is trying to save face.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Sounded like Dubas was taking a year off.

I heard Pittsburgh got permission to talk to him today. So if he is open to talking to them things might have changed.

[savemedrzaius]

I think it would be pretty dumb for Dubas to take a year off. He is a hot commodity right now and can get a big contract. Say he takes a year off and whoever the new Leafs GM is somehow gets the team to go on a deep run. All of a sudden he loses a lot of his shine in a lot of organisations eyes I bet. It's too risky for him.

As a Leaf fan I'm actually not that upset with the Leafs moving on from him. He built a great regular season team but for whatever reason couldn't get the team to go on a deep run. I also think if you bring in Dubas be prepared to have Keefe as your new head coach for better or worse.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

While the Calgary GM job may not be the most desirable in the NHL, it is still 1 of only 32, has ownership willing to spend to the cap and have just experienced one of the most tumultuous 12 months a franchise could withstand. I think a new GM will look pretty good just with a dead cat bounce.

For comparison’s sake, why is Pittsburgh that much better? Sid is obviously a factor, but that is also an aging roster, with goalie issues, lack of a young talent pipeline and are likely stuck in the 10-16 position ( in a tougher conference). I don’t hear much about them having a hard time attracting GM interest.

[liamenator]

I think the smart play for Dubas is to take a year and continue to be the top candidate for every opening. Make it known he is coming back but only for the right fit. His value will only increase, IMO, a la Sean Payton in the NFL.

But he's an emotional guy and he might want to jump back in immediately to stick it to Shanahan. That's the only shot the Flames have at this. Even then, it's probably Pittsburgh, but Murray has shown he's not bad at a recruitment pitch.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

While the Calgary GM job may not be the most desirable in the NHL, it is still 1 of only 32, has ownership willing to spend to the cap and have just experienced one of the most tumultuous 12 months a franchise could withstand. I think a new GM will look pretty good just with a dead cat bounce.

For comparison’s sake, why is Pittsburgh that much better? Sid is obviously a factor, but that is also an aging roster, with goalie issues, lack of a young talent pipeline and are likely stuck in the 10-16 position ( in a tougher conference). I don’t hear much about them having a hard time attracting GM interest.

Maybe because Pittsburgh has said that this is the last kicck of the can with these players and then it’s a rebuild . I have my doubts flames ownership is thinking rebuild in 2 years.

[Paulie Walnuts]

If Dubas demands are true I can't see us being in on him.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

No to Conroy

Need fresh directions

Unless you have first hand knowledge of what Conroy's direction is, and how much it differed from Treliving's ... that's a silly comment.

You've never reported to someone that did things completely different than you would have?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I think part of what we need to recognize is that the Flames are unlikely to be an attractive destination for top candidates. So they are going to be choosing from further down the "proven list" or giving newer guys a chance.

Exactly.

Said it a few weeks ago ... Calgary is likely always going to be the 2nd-4th choice for anyone available with experience.

Best way to end up with an impact GM or coach is likely first time job applicants that have the stuff to get it done.

Calgary's big win is a guy like Conroy taking the job, and becoming the Flame's David Poile and hiring the Flame's Barry Trotz.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Unless you have first hand knowledge of what Conroy's direction is, and how much it differed from Treliving's ... that's a silly comment.

You've never reported to someone that did things completely different than you would have?

I feel gross doing this but when we hired Bill Peters they kept asking him about how similar he would be to Babcock and he said that they share some same ideas but he's his own person and does things differently.

I bet Conroy has his own ideas and thoughts on things that have been done some he agrees with some he probably strongly disagrees with.

I think people will be surprised by him.

[Toonage]

Dreger suggesting a done deal with Conroy as GM, announcement next week

https://twitter.com/user/status/1660318899118768134

[Delthefunky]

I'm starting to lean towards Conroy, he deserves a shot. For me it's important that he's passionate about the team, especially with the punches we've taken the last year. Having Iggy in some kind of capacity is good too, if it suits his abilities/interests. He's certainly a motivater and a born leader. Maybe they can set an example from the tip down and form a team that wants to play hard for the city.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Unless you have first hand knowledge of what Conroy's direction is, and how much it differed from Treliving's ... that's a silly comment.

You've never reported to someone that did things completely different than you would have?

You aren't wrong but there is the fact that Conroy has worked almost exclusively under BT. (Feaster was who hired him the previous season iirc)

Chances are pretty good he will see things through a similar lens. If they were significantly different i suspect they wouldnt have stayed together for 9 years straight. More had BT stayed. Also if there is blame on BT for a bunch of things, then CC and Pascall have to share that burden as well.

Im not opposed to him but i would certainly prefer a new/fresh set of eyes and thoughts in the big chair.

They aren't going to reset the team on ice so they may need a new injection of ideas and execution above it all.