05-01-2023, 03:33 PM
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#481
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by skcli
Sutter was okay as an old fashion coach but failed as a leader for the team. His casual comments such as “he went to the washroom” rub people in the wrong way…His interpersonal skills are totally missing.
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If only he’d been that polite…
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05-01-2023, 03:36 PM
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#482
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
The thing with Conroy as GM is that he instantly goes from beloved alumni to, in all probability, Whipping Boy.
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He’ll smile his way through it
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05-01-2023, 03:41 PM
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#484
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First Line Centre
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If you are going to blame Treliving for the state of the franchise than you have to assign some of the blame to both Conroy and Pascal.
They are the two main assistants to the GM and would have the most say and influence on any decisions.
This is not old time sports. The GM might be making the final say but he is not making decisions in a vacuum without other peoples opinions. The decisions the Flames have made in the last half dozen years are group decisions.
If you don't like the decisions and the direction of the team than the Flames should not be making either Pascal or Conroy the GM. They should go outside for the new person and let them assemble a new staff.
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05-01-2023, 03:43 PM
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#485
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Bonded
I don't really care between the two and prefer someone from outside the org but curious on why you think that.
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Honestly, I worry about giving too much power to anyone who was previously an executive with Hockey Canada before their reckoning last year. Fair or not, I would have some reservations picking from that pool if the person was in charge of instilling a culture with the Flames.
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05-01-2023, 03:48 PM
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#486
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#1 Goaltender
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Eric Tulsky and Mitch love, please.
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05-01-2023, 03:56 PM
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#487
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Franchise Player
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I thought Conroy was a shoe-in for next GM. Didn't Burkie even confirm he was being groomed as the next guy?
The longer this goes on, the more I think Conny won't be the guy. Why haven't they given it to him yet? Plus, if I'm Conny, I'm probably pretty miffed they didn't promote him immediately.
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05-01-2023, 03:59 PM
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#488
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
I thought Conroy was a shoe-in for next GM. Didn't Burkie even confirm he was being groomed as the next guy?
The longer this goes on, the more I think Conny won't be the guy. Why haven't they given it to him yet? Plus, if I'm Conny, I'm probably pretty miffed they didn't promote him immediately.
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Burke said he expected Tkachuk to be captain
Oof
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05-01-2023, 04:01 PM
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#489
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
I thought Conroy was a shoe-in for next GM. Didn't Burkie even confirm he was being groomed as the next guy?
The longer this goes on, the more I think Conny won't be the guy. Why haven't they given it to him yet? Plus, if I'm Conny, I'm probably pretty miffed they didn't promote him immediately.
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Why? Because they will be accused of not doing a proper search.
This is normal for a lot of businesses to interview external candidates even if they favour an internal candidate for the position.
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05-01-2023, 04:07 PM
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#490
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Franchise Player
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I finally got caught up on this all.
At the end of the day - this was the correct move. You can't hire a new GM and stick him with a Head Coach. Sticking a new GM with a bullet proof Head Coach would just be bad process - so I'm glad this has happened.
That said, my "best case scenario" was Sutter and Treliving returning together with plans to rebuild. Looks like I'm getting no Sutter, no Treliving, and no rebuild.
I sincerely hope we do not walk Lindholm to free agency...
I do hope that we end up with Love as our Head Coach.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burning Beard
Players got what they wanted yet again. See how they play now. Not a place I'd want to coach.
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What players? The roster has turned over completely since this last era has begun. So what players are masterminding this? Is it Mikael Backlund?
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
Huby and Kadri are so soft, they couldn't even handle one season with Sutter. Most unlikeable franchise players in my lifetime.
This franchise is a complete joke.
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It was far from just Kadri and Huberdeau. Did you not see Lindholm and Backlund effectively say "nah, !@#$ this - I'm out"?
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Originally Posted by Cole436
Can we stop with this #### and just hire a real coach? Boudreau is available
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We just fired a real coach. Mitch Love looks like an excellent hire...I hope it ends up being him.
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Originally Posted by getbak
Not going to sell off assets.
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This bums me out. Lindy? Backs? Toff? Tanev? Just going to walk these guys to free agency? Backs and Lindy seemed pretty cold to staying here.
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05-01-2023, 04:09 PM
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#491
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
There's also the bit of shade Tkachuk threw after getting to Fla when he said, very early on, that Maurice was the best coach he ever had.
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Might want to ask him about that video of Maurice absolutely LOSING IT on his guys on the bench and yelling red-faced at them....and not just for a moment, and certainly not happily.
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05-01-2023, 04:09 PM
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#492
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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05-01-2023, 04:10 PM
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#493
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Hope we hear from Kadri next
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05-01-2023, 04:11 PM
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#494
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Kind of related: does this mean the team will finally name a new captain? I understood the wait-and-see-if-Tkachuk-stays approach from last season, but there was no good reason not to give it Backlund or Tanev this season.
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05-01-2023, 04:11 PM
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#495
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Why? Because they will be accused of not doing a proper search.
This is normal for a lot of businesses to interview external candidates even if they favour an internal candidate for the position.
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Wasn't Conroy also just in Switzerland doing some scouting?
If they were to name Conroy as GM, they would likely let him wrap up his other tasks that were already planned, and maybe let him take a vacation with his family or something before he becomes GM 24/7 with a huge workload ahead.
There just isn't a huge rush, especially if they are hiring from within the organization. I think if you were hiring from outside the organization, there would be more urgency to get it done sooner because you would want to get the new guy up to speed on everything. The transition for one of the Flames current AGMs would probably be a lot easier.
Of course, if they wanted to interview someone on a team still playing, they would need to wait, which isn't ideal if that team goes on a long run.
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05-01-2023, 04:11 PM
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#496
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Not sure what Servalli is talking about. There have been numerous times PP lines have been reported at practice by media attending.
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This could grow into a legend of its own... "I heard that Sutter didn't let his hockey teams practice hockey things!"
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05-01-2023, 04:12 PM
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#497
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Scoring Winger
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Huby is gonna get 100+ next year
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05-01-2023, 04:12 PM
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#498
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Press Level
Kind of related: does this mean the team will finally name a new captain? I understood the wait-and-see-if-Tkachuk-stays approach from last season, but there was no good reason not to give it Backlund or Tanev this season.
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Not sure if Backs is an option if he's only got a year left and has indicated that he wants out.
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05-01-2023, 04:14 PM
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#499
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DionTheDman
Not sure if Backs is an option if he's only got a year left and has indicated that he wants out.
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May be if Conny is the next GM, he can talk Backs into staying? 
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05-01-2023, 04:14 PM
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#500
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DionTheDman
Not sure if Backs is an option if he's only got a year left and has indicated that he wants out.
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No, not for this season. But Tanev?
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