I think this was a reach episode for them. They tried to write a really smart piece of science fiction that was based around the questions of where does humanity go from here. What does our future self look like? How do we imagine death if a species is immortal.
They also linked the whole thing back to a season one episode.
This almost felt like a vanity episode by Seth where he says "See we can write smart TV". But the premise felt a little flawed in the end, and the dialogue while really kind of intriguing with the discussions around the flaws of natural evolution, and how the universe is better when one evolves to the point of controlling it.
But I did like the final discussion around the bar table talking about the impossibility of envisioning death.
but the premise seemed so outside of a usual Orville episode. Probably the best segment of all of the scenarios was the long staircase. But the rest of the scenarios were just weird.
Like I said it was an over reach, and a bit boring, and what was happening didn't make sense in terms of the whole mystery episode since the crew didn't really solve anything, it just kind of ended.
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That episode was pretty bad. It really annoys me when Trek goes to our time to try to be relatable to the audience. I don't want to hear teenagers talking about Tik Tok and IG on a sci-fi show about space exploration.
It reminded me of the TNG episode where they end up in that casino on neptune.
Wasn't that the one where the aliens had found a old gangster movie or book and created the casino, and the only way to leave was to finish the story? I actually liked that episode if I remember it right.
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Yeah, it was ridiculous but I enjoyed that TNG episode as well. Data bending the dice in his hands so he'd always get a winning roll on craps was funny.
Wasn't that the one where the aliens had found a old gangster movie or book and created the casino, and the only way to leave was to finish the story? I actually liked that episode if I remember it right.
IIRC it was an old NASA astronaut who’s ship crashed with an alien one so he was marooned so the aliens created the simulation and thought the book was the world he came from, but it was just a crappy paperback so he thought it was torture. But Data was able to beat the craps table and beat the house to finish the simulation.
I also remember it as one of the ‘good kind of cheesy’ TNG episodes.
I thought the latest episode was pretty solid, and a reflection I guess of the political feel that we're going through.
Bringing back Teleya, and Ed haven't to live with his decisions concerning her and letting her go was well done. The rise of populist politics on Krill leading to the Union now in a 2 front war, and it coming down to Ed letting her go was great.
This show has gone from a Star Trek Parody with a joke and sly line a minute to something a bit more serious has been an interesting journey. There was really only one serious attempt at a spit take, which was the must see Isaace walking into the bar.
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I thought that “expanding helix manoeuvre” that Gordon just made up was hilarious. It was a great way to break the tension while being a solid parody of Star Trek. Bortis being sick at the end was icing on the cake. One of my favourite moments in the entire show.
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The high school thing was so weird. If they had gone with something else (anything else) on the theme of being toyed with so the alien could experience death through the crew the episode would have been saved. The airplane wasn't great either, but at least it worked in the context of the gag of having a starship pilot have to crash an antique plane. Given Bortus` attitude towards death shared in the final scene, if that could have been shared before they actually made it to the Moclan morgue the scene would have had more impact. Talla's planet was a throwaway octopus scene. But the high school thing was just brutal.
The first episode, though, is a complete and total masterpiece. Everyone crushed it. Wicked script, wicked everything, really. It easily set a television record for most notes played by an orchestra in an hour.
I thought the latest episode was pretty solid, and a reflection I guess of the political feel that we're going through.
Bringing back Teleya, and Ed haven't to live with his decisions concerning her and letting her go was well done. The rise of populist politics on Krill leading to the Union now in a 2 front war, and it coming down to Ed letting her go was great.
This show has gone from a Star Trek Parody with a joke and sly line a minute to something a bit more serious has been an interesting journey. There was really only one serious attempt at a spit take, which was the must see Isaace walking into the bar.
This is a very solid show. What I loved about the Isaac moment is that it's exactly something he would do.
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I thought that was an exceptionally well done social commentary episode that brings in full circle the story of Topa as she struggled with feeling wrong based around the gender re-assignment that she under went as a baby.
It debated a lot of very deep issues that are fairly relevant, and while I think they took the easy path of the resolution, and put in a heavy handed question around doing the right thing versus doing the convenient thing, I thought the character writing and the basic premise was very strong.
While we've had Kelly episodes before, this one dove even deeper into understanding her moral stance and Adrianne Palicki absolutely knocked it out of the park performance wise.
Its funny as the show has gone on, it feels like Ed is becoming more of a background character that comes in to balance the scales in any debate. He's become the critical judge of the crew.
I also loved that in one way they could have done the easy thing as Isaac was a key point in the episode and gave the solution that was the do an end run around every one in a quest of doing the right thing. And when he was told that he had done the right thing for Topa, we find out that his actual motivation was to try to get the crew to trust him and like him a little bit more.
One thing I've said from the start is that this show gives an old fashion trek feel due to their use of a orchestra based sound track, and man it stands out in this one in giving emotional punches during key moments, and the uplifting theme at the end was brilliant.
There were no gun battles in this one, and not much action, and no real destractions from what could be seen as a contraversial story line. So it was perfect in this case.
And on another note we say goodbye to another cast member as Kylden makes his exit from the show. In the end they went all out to make him unintentionally unlikable as a closed minded, bigoted individual, and he left after uttering one of the most horrible lines when he tells Topa that he wishes that she had never been born.
The interesting thing is that there was a distinct change in Kylden's make up and manner of dress that emphasized the above character as they thickened up his next and dressed him darker. It was literally a black hat transformation.
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