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View Poll Results: Which goaltender do you hope will be starting for the Flames in the 2017–18 Season?
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Jonathan Bernier (UFA)
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11 |
1.76% |
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Mike Condon (UFA)
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5 |
0.80% |
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Brian Elliott (UFA)
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51 |
8.16% |
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Marc Andre-Fleury (Trade)
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219 |
35.04% |
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Jon Gillies
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33 |
5.28% |
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Philipp Grubauer (Trade)
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73 |
11.68% |
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Jaroslav Halak (Trade)
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10 |
1.60% |
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Chad Johnson (UFA)
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3 |
0.48% |
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Joonis Korpisalo (Trade)
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25 |
4.00% |
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Steve Mason (UFA)
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14 |
2.24% |
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Ryan Miller (UFA)
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22 |
3.52% |
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Peter Mrazek (Trade)
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19 |
3.04% |
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Micheal Neuvirth (Trade)
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0% |
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Calvin Pickard (Trade)
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18 |
2.88% |
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Antti Raanta (Trade)
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78 |
12.48% |
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David Rittich
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4 |
0.64% |
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Mike Smith (Trade)
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35 |
5.60% |
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Cam Ward (Trade)
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5 |
0.80% |
05-21-2017, 09:48 AM
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#481
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Mike Smith just makes too much sense, unless you believe that there is a long-term, sure thing solution available (Schneider), and that Treliving would be willing to pay the assets to acquire that goaltender. It's possible that Raanta or Grubauer are ready to be starting goaltenders, but I don't believe Treliving would be willing to gamble next season on either of them taking that next step.
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05-21-2017, 02:13 PM
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#482
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Chances are only one of Gillies, Rittich and Parsons ends up as a starter. That alone would be a win. If another end up being an NHLer it is incredible.
We should know by now that you simply can't count on young goalies emerging, nor should you hinge your success on that.
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On the other hand I can't remember us ever having 3 as promising goalies as these 3. We've had 1 or maybe 2 goalies with promising futures at a time but not 3. We don't even have room for them in the AHL so I'd be looking at an old starter who we can acquire for little or nothing.
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05-21-2017, 02:35 PM
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#483
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by The Fonz
Mike Smith just makes too much sense, unless you believe that there is a long-term, sure thing solution available (Schneider), and that Treliving would be willing to pay the assets to acquire that goaltender. It's possible that Raanta or Grubauer are ready to be starting goaltenders, but I don't believe Treliving would be willing to gamble next season on either of them taking that next step.
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The Coyotes better retain salary for the Flames to take on a 35 year old goalies 2 years at north of $5M
The Red Wings are in cap trouble so they may entice a team to take Jimmy Howard off their hands? Similar contract to Smith 33 years old decent numbers but injury plagued last year.
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05-21-2017, 02:39 PM
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#484
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
The Coyotes better retain salary for the Flames to take on a 35 year old goalies 2 years at north of $5M.
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The Yotes have a fever, and the only prescription is more Troy Brouwer.
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05-21-2017, 02:59 PM
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#485
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by The Fonz
The Yotes have a fever, and the only prescription is more Troy Brouwer.
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And some Lance Bouma.
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05-21-2017, 03:19 PM
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#486
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess
And some Lance Bouma.
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If symptoms persist, take a Matt Stajan immediately.
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05-21-2017, 03:23 PM
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#487
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Anyone who can stop the puck well consistently for a resonable price....so Miikka Kiprusoff.... 
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05-21-2017, 08:33 PM
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#489
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Chances are only one of Gillies, Rittich and Parsons ends up as a starter. That alone would be a win. If another end up being an NHLer it is incredible.
We should know by now that you simply can't count on young goalies emerging, nor should you hinge your success on that.
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The real chances are that none of these end up being a starter (or even as backup journeymen) as most goalie prospects just never make it, even when having incredibly promising junior and even AHL stats.
I do think Parsons is as good or better than any other goalie prospect coming out of the CHL in the last 5 or 10 years, I do think that Gillies is good enough right now that he can be a backup in the NHL, and Rittich is really a wildcard for me and I would have liked to have seen him in a string of games at least last season to make up my mind about him.
However, the smart thing to do is what I know the Flames will end up doing - acquire two goalies with NHL experience to function as the starter and backup. You don't risk a season by throwing out anyone out there and 'hope' they translate their abilities.
If one of these goalies makes it, it will be because they pushed out whomever was ahead of them with much better and much more consistent play. Whether that be through the training camp/preseason/early season chances, or through solid AHL starts followed by a stretch as an injury call-up, that's fine. They have to take the net, you can never just give it to them, so the Flames would be incredibly foolish to just give them the net. There is no way it will happen in my opinion, no matter how high they are on a particular goalie prospect. That goalie still needs time to prove themselves in the NHL, and that means they make the most of any opportunity they will eventually be given.
What I do think is that given the Flames likelihood of finding a new starter, they will probably end up giving the starter (and the new backup) more time in training camp and preseason to adjust to the Flames, limiting the chances of a prospect. That's an ok trade-off though - you don't want to risk a season on what ifs, and you need to get your goalies comfortable on the team before the start of the season.
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05-21-2017, 08:57 PM
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#490
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Struch
I would prefer looking into dealing for one of these goalies...
1. Carey Price
2. Matt Murray
3. Cory Schneider
If not, this tandem would suffice...
Marc-Andre Fleury
Cam Ward
Both goalies are established, experienced in playing 50+ games per season and have a ton of playoff experience... Stanley Cup Champions.
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I think you are going to be disappointed.
If the Flames go tandem again I suspect they will acquire one of the backups that could be ready to be a starter (Grubauer, Raanta, Pickard) and pair them with a 1a/b goalie (Elliott, Johnson, Mason, Smith, Howard)
I hope the Devils decide to move Schneider as he is a great fit and I would gladly offer Gillies+16+D prospect (Kylington or Hickey). The Devils may just not be willing to move him however
Another goalie that I hope the Flames check on is Mrazek.
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05-21-2017, 09:11 PM
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#491
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
On the other hand I can't remember us ever having 3 as promising goalies as these 3. We've had 1 or maybe 2 goalies with promising futures at a time but not 3. We don't even have room for them in the AHL so I'd be looking at an old starter who we can acquire for little or nothing.
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Muzzati/Kidd/Trefilov were considered a pretty impressive trifecta
Years later it was Irving, Keetley, Lalande.
I like this crop too but just underscoring that relying on one of these to pan out as a true #1 isn't a plan - it is hope. And hope isn't a plan.
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05-21-2017, 10:45 PM
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#493
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Self-Retired
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fonz
The Yotes have a fever, and the only prescription is more Troy Brouwer.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess
And some Lance Bouma.
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Brouwer, Bouma and a 3rd rounder for Smith and Duclair?
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05-21-2017, 10:59 PM
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#494
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IgiTang
Brouwer, Bouma and a 3rd rounder for Smith and Duclair?
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How do these players help Phoenix's rebuild?
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05-21-2017, 11:22 PM
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#495
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Stampede Grounds
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#1 goaltender discussions have to be some of the worst on CP. Such pie in the sky thoughts or what have you done for me lately.
Stick with Elliot until you can either develop someone from within or find a diamond in the rough from elsewhere. We ain't going to be contenders for years anyways - so there is plenty of time.
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05-22-2017, 12:47 AM
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#496
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by David Struch
Marc-Andre Fleury
Cam Ward
Both goalies are established, experienced in playing 50+ games per season and have a ton of playoff experience... Stanley Cup Champions.
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That is pretty big hit on the salary cap. I would like to see Bernier and Rittich/Gillies rotation. Many will argue that Rittich and/or Gillies isn't ready to be backup because they haven't played 100 games in the AHL but I would counter with Darling, Grubauer and Raanta didn't play 100 games in the AHL before getting backup duties.
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05-22-2017, 01:01 AM
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#497
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I would like Fleury. What I really don't want is to hear the choice of goalie went like this.
1. We weren't in on Bishop.
2. We weren't in on Fluery
3. We were in on ? but other teams gave offers that ? team preferred.
4. We settled for what was leftover.
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05-22-2017, 01:12 AM
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#498
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Originally Posted by David Struch
I would prefer looking into dealing for one of these goalies...
1. Carey Price
2. Matt Murray
3. Cory Schneider
If not, this tandem would suffice...
Marc-Andre Fleury
Cam Ward
Both goalies are established, experienced in playing 50+ games per season and have a ton of playoff experience... Stanley Cup Champions.
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I do not think Matt Murray is the goalie Pitt is letting go.
After Fleury was outstanding in rounds 1 and 2 they took their first available chance to give Murray the starting net.
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05-22-2017, 05:26 AM
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#499
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
How do these players help Phoenix's rebuild?
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Pretty sure that post was sarcasm. Unless your post is also sarcasm, then oh.
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05-22-2017, 09:49 AM
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#500
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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A hypothetical question... cause it's summer and this isn't getting resolved any time soon...
If the Devils gave these two trade options to the Flames, which would people choose? Or do you choose to walk away?
To CGY
- Schneider
To NJ
- Gillies
- 2017 16th overall pick
OR
To NJ
- Parsons
- 2018 2nd round pick
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