[Signing] Iginla to Colorado (3yrs, $5.3mil AAV)

[Locke]

Originally Posted by dino7c

thats the point of a message board...I am not the first one in this thread to question Iggy's motives at this point and say that I'm not cheering for him

not sure why I get called out

Guy has made millions upon millions playing a kids game, its no sad story if he doesn't happen to win the cup.

Up for debate is Colorado's cup chances...even if they are a decent team the chances are slim of winning it in a 30 team league especially in that conference and division.

Furthermore I haven't visited this thread for months so please don't act like I am trolling Iggy or something.

I agree and disagree with you.

In my opinion Iggy has made a lot of cash, so take less for right now and play for a contender and win a cup, then take Colorado's money.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Well, it isn't the first time he's come into this thread to let us all know how special he is by making this courageous decision not to cheer for Iginla any more.

lol haven't posted since July 1st, get over yourself

[Tyler]

Gotta remember that we're in a cap world and there were probably only a handful of teams that either

a) could afford Iggy
b) actually wanted the guy on their team

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Locke

I agree and disagree with you.

In my opinion Iggy has made a lot of cash, so take less for right now and play for a contender and win a cup, then take Colorado's money.

oh I agree 100%, I am saying why should we worry about it as fans when at the end of the day he seems to be equally concerned about the money/term Vs. the cup.

If your only priority is a cup you don't sign a 3 year deal

[Locke]

Originally Posted by dino7c

oh I agree 100%, I am saying why should we worry about it as fans when at the end of the day he seems to be equally concerned about the money/term Vs. the cup.

If your only priority is a cup you don't sign a 3 year deal

Completely agreed. Thats why I'm disappointed.

If he wanted money he could have gotten it in Calgary. The fact of the matter remains that we're better off without him.

I think thats a sad fact, but I'm convinced that its a reality.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Locke

Completely agreed. Thats why I'm disappointed.

If he wanted money he could have gotten it in Calgary. The fact of the matter remains that we're better off without him.

I think thats a sad fact, but I'm convinced that its a reality.

100% the Flames are better off without him, they actually would be better off if they traded him sooner its not even debatable


not taking away anything he did for the franchise though, 04 basically saved the franchise and him and Kipper are to thank for that

[Locke]

Originally Posted by dino7c

100% the Flames are better off without him, they actually would be better off if they traded him sooner its not even debatable

not taking away anything he did for the franchise though, 04 basically saved the franchise and him and Kipper are to thank for that

No argument from me.

[Flames89]

Originally Posted by dino7c

thats the point of a message board...

I was feeling punchy this morning, saw this thread bumped up and thought "oh, some Iginla news" (which I was happy to read about, as I will always be a fan of his), and instead I got you saying "I don't care what Iginla does" ...

To turn my pointless confession into a positive contribution, I offer this article.

Will Iginla get a letter?
http://milehighsticking.com/2014/09/...rnate-captain/

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by dino7c

oh I agree 100%, I am saying why should we worry about it as fans when at the end of the day he seems to be equally concerned about the money/term Vs. the cup.

If your only priority is a cup you don't sign a 3 year deal

So instead you keep signing 1 year deals and trying to guess who'se going to win each year? That worked amazingly for him the first 2 times he tried it.

Its really difficult to pick who'se going to win the cup each year, there are so many variables. Signing a 3 year deal with a team that has a great foundation and should grow is a much smarter approach than you make it out to be. Is it guaranteed? No, but neither is the alternative.

My guess is Iginla factored in potential to win, contract length, money, close to family and other factors. Maybe he's just not a guy who wants to be a mercenary for a new team every year and prefers continuity, I don't see that as a bad thing.

Whether he goes on to win the cup or not, Iggy had his reasons for making his decision and anyone that has watched him play since he started way back in 96 knows that he's as classy and genuine an athlete you'll ever see, I see no need to come on here like a know it all and starting spouting off that "he did it all for the money!" when you have no idea what motivated his decision.

And if you know who is going to win the next 3 cups, please let me know, I'd like to go place some bets.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Igottago

So instead you keep signing 1 year deals and trying to guess who'se going to win each year? That worked amazingly for him the first 2 times he tried it.

Its really difficult to pick who'se going to win the cup each year, there are so many variables. Signing a 3 year deal with a team that has a great foundation and should grow is a much smarter approach than you make it out to be. Is it guaranteed? No, but neither is the alternative.

My guess is Iginla factored in potential to win, contract length, money, close to family and other factors. Maybe he's just not a guy who wants to be a mercenary for a new team every year and prefers continuity, I don't see that as a bad thing.

Whether he goes on to win the cup or not, Iggy had his reasons for making his decision and anyone that has watched him play since he started way back in 96 knows that he's as classy and genuine an athlete you'll ever see, I see no need to come on here like a know it all and starting spouting off that "he did it all for the money!" when you have no idea what motivated his decision.

And if you know who is going to win the next 3 cups, please let me know, I'd like to go place some bets.

2014/15 - Boston
2015/16 - LA
2016/17 - Chicago

I have a 25% management fee. I'll PM my account details.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Igottago

So instead you keep signing 1 year deals and trying to guess who'se going to win each year? That worked amazingly for him the first 2 times he tried it.

Its really difficult to pick who'se going to win the cup each year, there are so many variables. Signing a 3 year deal with a team that has a great foundation and should grow is a much smarter approach than you make it out to be. Is it guaranteed? No, but neither is the alternative.

My guess is Iginla factored in potential to win, contract length, money, close to family and other factors. Maybe he's just not a guy who wants to be a mercenary for a new team every year and prefers continuity, I don't see that as a bad thing.

Whether he goes on to win the cup or not, Iggy had his reasons for making his decision and anyone that has watched him play since he started way back in 96 knows that he's as classy and genuine an athlete you'll ever see, I see no need to come on here like a know it all and starting spouting off that "he did it all for the money!" when you have no idea what motivated his decision.

And if you know who is going to win the next 3 cups, please let me know, I'd like to go place some bets.

What the #### is going on with people today! "spouting off"

its a message board and its about opinions...many of whom agree with me in this very thread. Fanboys are out in full force

I never said he "did it all for money" I said money was a factor and I won't lose any sleep over it if he doesn't win a cup.

I also never said he has no chance with colorado I just said its unlikely they win in the next three years and it is. Its a 30 team league and I wouldn't put those guys in the upper echelon

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

You make it sound like they have to get past all of those teams. They only have to get past 1 of LA/Anaheim/SanJose under the new division/playoff format, in the WCF.

In rounds 1 + 2, yes, worst case scenario they could play St. Louis and then Chicago, or the other way around. It's just as likely though that St. Louis + Chicago play each other in R1, like they did this past season.

Regardless, if you want to win a cup, you have to beat the best teams in the league. This is the ways it's always been. What's the point in playing 3 rounds in the Eastern Conference, when you know you're not good enough to beat the team that comes out of the West?

How do I make it sound like anything but what it is? I said winning 3 rounds against those teams will be tough. They will have to beat a combination of 3 of those teams. So yes the road will be extremely tough. Is it impossible? No never said that. Simply stating why some people might think Colorado will be in tough to win a cup. It's a tough road no matter which 3 teams you get and that's not even taking into consideration you have to beat the East champ as well.

[Hackey]

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[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

You make it sound like they have to get past all of those teams. They only have to get past 1 of LA/Anaheim/SanJose under the new division/playoff format, in the WCF.

In rounds 1 + 2, yes, worst case scenario they could play St. Louis and then Chicago, or the other way around. It's just as likely though that St. Louis + Chicago play each other in R1, like they did this past season.

Regardless, if you want to win a cup, you have to beat the best teams in the league. This is the ways it's always been. What's the point in playing 3 rounds in the Eastern Conference, when you know you're not good enough to beat the team that comes out of the West?

As usual, Anahaim (maybe SJ) will probably be #1, LA will probably be a wild card cause of a crappy regular season but then kick ass in the playoffs.

[Jets4Life]

Hopefully third time is a charm for Iggy. It's a shame that he did not win the holy grail of hockey in Pittsburgh (2013) or Boston (2014). IIRC, it took Hossa three seasons, with three different contending teams, to finally hoist the cup...

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Gotta remember that we're in a cap world and there were probably only a handful of teams that either

a) could afford Iggy
b) actually wanted the guy on their team

Except he could have signed a 1 yr/1M deal with Chicago, they dump O'duya and almost are guaranteed a SC right there.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Except he could have signed a 1 yr/1M deal with Chicago, they dump O'duya and almost are guaranteed a SC right there.

This. Iggy took the money over the best chance available. If he were willing to sign even a 2 year $2m AAV, he could have picked from 30 teams. I wonder how many teams were offering him what he ended up getting? My guess is not many. I was really rooting for him last year, but it's clear what his #1 priority is and I won't feel bad for him if he fails in his quest because he took the money over a better chance. I mean, it's not like he needs the money, he just wants more money. Now he will have $84m in career earnings instead of $75m, that's obviously most important to him. Either way, he has enough money to set his family up for generations. His lifestyle will not change at all in either scenario unless he's addicted to buying air planes or something.

Maybe it's a status thing within the NHL? Maybe he is perceived as more important, or feels he is a bigger part of the team if his cap hit is higher? Maybe his ego just can't handle too much of a pay cut? He's was always my favorite player while he was here, and I really wanted to see him win that cup, I felt he deserved it if anyone did. But now... whatever... If he wins, I'll be happy for him but I don't really care if it happens either at this point, if that makes any sense.

[Steve Bozek]

Trying to pick the Western SC finalist this season would have to be a crapshoot, and that's been the case in the East in the last two seasons - as Iginla found out with making the wrong choice 2 years in a row. Why not link up with a Division winner with a terrific core of very young players who will be expected to get better over the next 2-3 years?

A much lower offer from Chicago or LA (if it was on the table) hardly guarantees a Cup win next year. Why not take the long term deal with much more cash from a rising team that has lots of potential? Without really caring whether Iggy wins a Cup or not, I think he and his agent made the smart choice.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by dino7c

What the #### is going on with people today! "spouting off"

its a message board and its about opinions

Wait? Isn't that what just did? "question"

[Major Major]

Na, I think it is a great move by Iginla. No one would say that Colorado is in the group of favorites for the cup. But they got a chance, and 2 years from now, who knows? They look good, damn good. Maybe they remind Iggy of Pittsburgh just as they turned the corner. They do to me. Mackinnon, Dechene, O'Reilly. Just keep saying it.... It feels good. I saw Mackinnon last year, playoffs especially. You're saying that the year after next there is not a solid chance that this guy is not in the best 2-3 players in the leauge. The next two, as a 2-3? I'd take em over Malkin, Staal. I'm probably in the minority, but its close.

You get paid, you get security, your family gets to be in one place for a few years, and you've got a stab at the cup, I think legitimate starting in 2015-16.

I'd say his combined odds of getting a cup in Colorado over 3 years is better than Chicago over 1- No guarantees after that I'm afraid.