03-25-2014, 12:48 PM
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#481
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Cammalleri has NOT been traded
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Yes but last year the NHL made it clear that the teams aren't supposed to discuss dollar figures or length during those 7 days.
It's meant to be more for the players to meet organizations and travel to cities to see if they think they will fit in or like the lifestyle there.
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I don't see how the NHL could possibly enforce something like that. I imagine a lot of 'casual' dinners in which certain things just happen to get discussed in a 'you, me, and the fence post' sort of way.
The Glen Sather special, I call it.
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03-25-2014, 01:03 PM
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#482
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by mrdonkey
I don't see how the NHL could possibly enforce something like that. I imagine a lot of 'casual' dinners in which certain things just happen to get discussed in a 'you, me, and the fence post' sort of way.
The Glen Sather special, I call it.
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There is no way it doesn't happen. Even before when players would supposedly not have contact with other teams but would sign a contract minutes after free agency starts. I find it hard to believe that term and money wasn't discussed beforehand.
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03-25-2014, 01:20 PM
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#483
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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I think Mike will certainly go to free agency but I am not ruling out a return if the term/money is not there from a legit contender.
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03-25-2014, 01:57 PM
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#484
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I think Mike got a wakeup call when his market value was set as a 3rd round draft pick.
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03-26-2014, 10:04 AM
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#485
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Am I the only one that thinks Cammy will probably stay because of how we've been play as of late, as well as the work ethic Hartley makes all of his players play? If it doesn't work out, we can trade him during the next deadline. I really like Cammy, and now hearing the news that we might have to possibly have for Gaudreau another year, I think we should keep him for another 2-3 years, on a 5, 5.5m per year contract.
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03-26-2014, 10:19 AM
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#486
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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One year deal @ 7 million, deal him (retain salary) at deadline.
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03-26-2014, 02:14 PM
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#487
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Am I the only one that thinks Cammy will probably stay because of how we've been play as of late, as well as the work ethic Hartley makes all of his players play? If it doesn't work out, we can trade him during the next deadline. I really like Cammy, and now hearing the news that we might have to possibly have for Gaudreau another year, I think we should keep him for another 2-3 years, on a 5, 5.5m per year contract.
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I don't think so, but I wouldn't have a problem with it.
Have you listen to the interviews when he's asked about the possibility of re-signing in Calgary? It's almost a certainty he won't be back.
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03-26-2014, 02:22 PM
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#488
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Am I the only one that thinks Cammy will probably stay because of how we've been play as of late, as well as the work ethic Hartley makes all of his players play?
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One of the few. It doesn't make much sense for Cammalleri to sign here as he should be competing for a cup and trying to get as much money as possible. If doesn't make much sense for us to sign Cammalleri as he will likely get bigger offers from contenders and we already have an abundance of smaller, skilled wingers with Hudler, Byron and Baertschi/Gaudreau on the way.
I would certainly bet against him re-signing here. I think it's a slam dunk he moves on to a better offer from a contender.
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03-26-2014, 02:23 PM
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#489
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
One year deal @ 7 million, deal him (retain salary) at deadline.
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Why would he sign that though? That's a lot of risk for him to assume.
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03-26-2014, 02:47 PM
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#490
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
One year deal @ 7 million, deal him (retain salary) at deadline.
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Players in their 30's usually look for some term. The guys who do the one year deals are definitely the exception.
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03-26-2014, 02:48 PM
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#491
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Scoring Winger
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I think he will test free agency and not sign prior. If Burke was serious in signing, he would have been signed already... do I think Burke made a decent offer, yup but not close to what he was hoping. all business for Cammy as history has dictated....
But would not be surprised to resign with flames after testing market. Only thing going for him is cap increase which gives teams some breathing room. I think he will attract teams but NOT convinced it will be with a cup contender. After not finding what he was looking for, sign with Flames, mostly 1 year $6mm, probably one one year deal, could be creative like Iggy deal plays x games and gets bonus to make more attractive at deadline.
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03-26-2014, 03:01 PM
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#492
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by getoverit
I think he will test free agency and not sign prior. If Burke was serious in signing, he would have been signed already... do I think Burke made a decent offer, yup but not close to what he was hoping. all business for Cammy as history has dictated....
But would not be surprised to resign with flames after testing market. Only thing going for him is cap increase which gives teams some breathing room. I think he will attract teams but NOT convinced it will be with a cup contender. After not finding what he was looking for, sign with Flames, mostly 1 year $6mm, probably one one year deal, could be creative like Iggy deal plays x games and gets bonus to make more attractive at deadline.
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What is this in reference to? When he left as a UFA last time? You know, the time when Sutter didn't offer Cammy a contract?
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03-26-2014, 03:18 PM
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#493
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
What is this in reference to? When he left as a UFA last time? You know, the time when Sutter didn't offer Cammy a contract?
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Huh? Cammalleri said that CGY did offer him a contract last time he was UFA.
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03-26-2014, 03:40 PM
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#494
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: section 219
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
One of the few. It doesn't make much sense for Cammalleri to sign here as he should be competing for a cup and trying to get as much money as possible. If doesn't make much sense for us to sign Cammalleri as he will likely get bigger offers from contenders and we already have an abundance of smaller, skilled wingers with Hudler, Byron and Baertschi/Gaudreau on the way.
I would certainly bet against him re-signing here. I think it's a slam dunk he moves on to a better offer from a contender.
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Not saying you are wrong about the possibility of him signing here, but I would imagine that the Flames have the ability to offer Cammalleri a much larger offer then just about any of the contending teams. Lots of cap space that will need to be filled next year.
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03-26-2014, 03:48 PM
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#495
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by freakinsaprikin
Not saying you are wrong about the possibility of him signing here, but I would imagine that the Flames have the ability to offer Cammalleri a much larger offer then just about any of the contending teams. Lots of cap space that will need to be filled next year.
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Oh we have the cap space. But I think it makes zero sense for us to make Cammalleri a large or long term offer because of the makeup of our team (too many small forwards) and where we are in the rebuild. Therefore I think a contending team will offer for term/money than Burke will choose to offer.
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03-27-2014, 07:51 AM
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#496
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Players in their 30's usually look for some term. The guys who do the one year deals are definitely the exception.
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Absolutely. I was just speculating that if he is offered a three year, 16 million dollar deal somewhere, for example, he might instead take half that for one year with the Flames. Helps us to floor with a guy we know and like, and move him to contender at deadline. But yeah... unlikely
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03-27-2014, 08:19 AM
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#497
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Huh? Cammalleri said that CGY did offer him a contract last time he was UFA.
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That is my recollection as well. Montreal offered him like $1.5 million more than we did... of course a lot of that was to make up for the additional Quebec taxes he would have to pay, so the actual gap in the take-home pay was substantially less than $1.5 million. I'm one of Cammalleri's biggest fans, but he left for more money last time. Which is fine.... most people would do the same.
He really made out well though to get the big contract with Quebec tax considerations and then get traded back to Alberta anyway. Someone on here calculated before, and his take-home pay increased by several hundreds of thousands of dollars just by being traded.
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04-01-2014, 05:49 PM
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#498
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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per Burke on Sportsnet
Flames have made what they believe is a fair offer to Cammalleri, but Cammalleri thinks he can do better in free agency
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04-01-2014, 05:52 PM
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#499
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
per Burke on Sportsnet
Flames have made what they believe is a fair offer to Cammalleri, but Cammalleri thinks he can do better in free agency
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Going for the money and a cup contender I guess... Best of luck to him.
Opens up a roster spot in our LW depth, hopefully Baertschi is the one next season.
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04-01-2014, 05:54 PM
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#500
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no surprise
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