Who do we hope ends up GM?

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

the pick he gave up for Crawford was 31st overall

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

the pick he gave up for Crawford was 31st overall

Thank god that is not a rule and wont be this year and hopefully never again, so it shouldn't matter.

[Ring of Fire]

Here's another name for discussion:

Brent Flahr

http://www.eliteprospects.com/staff.php?staff=6969

http://www.eliteprospects.com/staff.php?staff=6969

Minnesota Wild General Manager Chuck Fletcher today announced the National Hockey League (NHL) club has named Brent Flahr (pronounced FLAYRE) Assistant General Manager. Flahr will oversee all aspects of player development and evaluation and assist Fletcher in player personnel decisions, contract negotiations and league related issues.

"Brent is one of the top talent evaluators in the NHL and was an integral member of Anaheim's scouting staff on their 2007 Stanley Cup team," said Fletcher.

Flahr, 35 (6/25/74), spent the last two seasons with the Ottawa Senators as Director of Hockey Operations. Prior to joining the Senators, he spent four seasons working as an amateur scout for the Anaheim Ducks including the 2007 Stanley Cup team. From 1996 to 2003, Flahr spent eight seasons as part of the Florida Panthers organization, serving in a variety of positions, including Assistant to the General Manager, and Scouting and Video Coordinator. He was also the Director of Hockey Operations for the Panthers' AHL affiliate, the San Antonio Rampage. Flahr has worked with Fletcher two times previously, spending three seasons together in Anaheim and six seasons in Florida.

http://www.hockeywilderness.com/2013...ot-at-a-gm-job

Upon his arrival, he was charged with facing the same problems as Chuck Fletcher: A sub-mediocre team losing their only star player, and a non-existent prospect pool. Flahr's main job was the latter problem, as he is charged with running the Minnesota Wild's draft preparations, and the draft itself. Tommy Thompson, the previous Assistant GM, handled the 2009 draft (which yielded Nick Leddy, Matthew Hackett, Darcy Kuemper, and Erik Haula, which was pretty impressive), so Flahr's first draft wasn't until 2010.

And what a draft it was. As you *might* remember, that was the draft that the Wild acquired Mikael Granlund, Brett Bulmer, Johan Larsson, Jason Zucker, and Johan Gustafsson with their first five picks. And I'm not even taking into account later trades for 2010 first-rounders in Charlie Coyle and Nino Niederreiter. This started the Wild's rebounding in their farm system, and boy, it has rebounded. While most of the big-ticket Wild prospects have graduated to the NHL, the Wild have such a glut of talented young forward prospects that they've taken to drafting long-term college projects to try to stagger them.

What's perhaps most impressive is that the Wild have assembled such young talent without completely bottoming out. While many turn-arounds come from assembling Top-3 picks (See: Chicago with Kane, Toews; Pittsburgh with those two guys), the highest the Wild drafted during Flahr's tenure was 6th. Mikael Granlund (9th) and Jonas Brodin (10th) were drafted in positions where picking is much less of a sure thing than a Top-3 pick.

He's worked under Chuck Fletcher, Bryan Murray, and Brian Burke and is young (39), his strength is scouting/drafting, and has loads of experience. I don't know if he's available contract-wise but I think Brent Flahr is an interesting name to add to the discussion.

[cowtown75]

Cliff Fletcher

[FAN]

Will Burke make a little known guy as his GM to make everyone know that the GM is just a puppet or the other way around where Burke hires a known guy in an attempt to convince that the GM isn't merely a puppet?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by FAN

Will Burke make a little known guy as his GM to make everyone know that the GM is just a puppet or the other way around where Burke hires a known guy in an attempt to convince that the GM isn't merely a puppet?

Or, maybe Burke will hire the best candidate as GM to fill the role of GM with no strings attached?

This conspiracy nonsense is ridiculous.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Well I certainly hope Burke doesn't give up the 32nd overall pick in this draft for the right to hire somebody.

If it is the right person for the job, and he is clearly essential to the long term improvement of the team, then I would consider this a somewhat small price to pay. I'm happy that the Flames will not be required to compensate teams for the loss of an executive, but I also don't think it is a terrible idea. Why shouldn't organisations received something in return for the work and investment into their formation and development of great management teams? With how important scouting, drafting, and personnel and cap management have become in the modern NHL, this seems perfectly reasonable to me.

[Textcritic]

It certainly seems as though the Flames' top choices are Benning and Futa, and I'm quite pleased with that possibility. At this point I would imagine that the GM search gets pretty quiet until after the season or the draft.

[FAN]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Or, maybe Burke will hire the best candidate as GM to fill the role of GM with no strings attached?

This conspiracy nonsense is ridiculous.

Umm... are you suggesting that the next Flames GM will possess all the customary and traditional hockey operations authority such as decision making? If not, then there are strings attached to a GM position. It's not a conspiracy when the GM job for the Calgary Flames is in title only. Not sure why you find things so ridiculous. Overreacting much?

[UKflames]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

It certainly seems as though the Flames' top choices are Benning and Futa, and I'm quite pleased with that possibility. At this point I would imagine that the GM search gets pretty quiet until after the season or the draft.

The idea of going into a draft without a GM doesn't seem very sensible to me, especially when BB admits that rookie evaluation and drafting are not his strong point.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by FAN

Umm... are you suggesting that the next Flames GM will possess all the customary and traditional hockey operations authority such as decision making? If not, then there are strings attached to a GM position.

My use of the metaphor was clearly with reference to the description in the cited post of the next GM as a "puppet", with strings attached. No need to be so wooden or literal in your interpretation.

Who said anything about the job description being "traditional"? Rather to the contrary, I expect that the organisational structure in Flames management will necessitate some considerable revision of the next GM's responsibilities from those who have in the past held the position. However, I do not for a moment believe that the next Flames GM will be a Burke "puppet".

Originally Posted by FAN

It's not a conspiracy when the GM job for the Calgary Flames is in title only. Not sure why you find things so ridiculous. Overreacting much?

What makes you think that the GM opening in Calgary is "in title only"? It is a conspiracy theory when there is NO EVIDENCE to suggest that Burke wants to hire anything other than a competent, qualified candidate with the best skill set and the right expertise to fill the role of GM. This is NOT what I would consider a puppet appointment. It is a conspiracy theory when outside observers ignore virtually every statement to the media that Burke has made on the subject of the new hire, and make unfounded assumptions about his intentions and resolve that are clearly in contravention of what he has claimed.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by UKflames

The idea of going into a draft without a GM doesn't seem very sensible to me, especially when BB admits that rookie evaluation and drafting are not his strong point.

If he defers to his scouting staff which has been working on the draft for months now, then there should be no problem at all.

[UKflames]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

If he defers to his scouting staff which has been working on the draft for months now, then there should be no problem at all.

If all he is going to do is defer to the scouting staff why did he get rid of Feaster and Weisbrod, who were more than capable of running the draft if the last few have been anything to go by.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by UKflames

The idea of going into a draft without a GM doesn't seem very sensible to me, especially when BB admits that rookie evaluation and drafting are not his strong point.

While it is definitely not ideal to walk into a draft without a GM, it is probably a worse idea to hire a less suitable GM for the sake of having someone ready for the draft.

Burke can just defer to the scouting staff. Burke got rid of Feaster and Weisbrod and obviously did not like their drafting (from what he said in the presser, though he loved the last draft). Feaster himself acknowledged that he just deferred to his 'guys' - Button and Weisbrod. No loss from that standpoint at the draft table then from a GM point of view. Burke will be there manning the phones for trades.

I would be 100% ok with not having a GM by draft day if it means the best available GM is hired shortly afterwards.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by UKflames

If all he is going to do is defer to the scouting staff why did he get rid of Feaster and Weisbrod, who were more than capable of running the draft if the last few have been anything to go by.

Feaster and Weisbrod were fired because there is a hell of lot more to the job than scouting and selecting kids at the draft. They were fired when they were fired because Burke had determined that he wanted different people in their positions; because he wanted to pursue candidates to fill their positions immediately; and because he thought it more professionally courteous to let Weisbrod and Feaster know of the new direction as soon as possible, instead of to string them along until a later date.

I believe that ideally Burke wanted to have a the position filled sooner than later, but it doesn't seem like that will happen. Burke seems to have targeted one or two people presently working for other clubs, and has not been able to secure permission to interview them, or else his candidates are not being released by their current employers until the end of the season. Given the circumstances, it is best to wait to hire the best candidate, instead of installing a less impressive or less qualified person in an effort to ensure that the position is filled quickly.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by UKflames

If all he is going to do is defer to the scouting staff why did he get rid of Feaster and Weisbrod, who were more than capable of running the draft if the last few have been anything to go by.

Pretty sure Button and his staff are fully capable of running the draft as they did in 2011 which was arguably the Flames best in some time. I'm pretty confident the firings were done at that time because Burke didn't want Feaster handling the trade deadline or Weisbrod influencing the 2014 draft. If Burke didn't have confidence in and intended to fire them why would he continue to let them make key personnel decisions for the rest of the season?

[Goodlad]

Originally Posted by UKflames

If all he is going to do is defer to the scouting staff why did he get rid of Feaster and Weisbrod, who were more than capable of running the draft if the last few have been anything to go by.

One of the reasons Burke cited for letting Feaster/Weisbrod go was the disappointing returns from previous trades. It wouldn't make much sense to allow them to handle the upcoming trade deadline, which could be the last meaningful one around here for a while.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

My use of the metaphor was clearly with reference to the description in the cited post of the next GM as a "puppet", with strings attached. No need to be so wooden or literal in your interpretation.

Who said anything about the job description being "traditional"? Rather to the contrary, I expect that the organisational structure in Flames management will necessitate some considerable revision of the next GM's responsibilities from those who have in the past held the position. However, I do not for a moment believe that the next Flames GM will be a Burke "puppet".


What makes you think that the GM opening in Calgary is "in title only"? It is a conspiracy theory when there is NO EVIDENCE to suggest that Burke wants to hire anything other than a competent, qualified candidate with the best skill set and the right expertise to fill the role of GM. This is NOT what I would consider a puppet appointment. It is a conspiracy theory when outside observers ignore virtually every statement to the media that Burke has made on the subject of the new hire, and make unfounded assumptions about his intentions and resolve that are clearly in contravention of what he has claimed.

Because thanking this post wasn't quite enough.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by strombad

Because thanking this post wasn't quite enough.

Don't forget your knee pads

[strombad]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

Don't forget your knee pads

I'll have to borrow a pair from yer mum