[News] With the #22 overall pick the Flames select LW/RW Emile Poirier

[Ashasx]

FWIW, Dreger said on TH last night that he thought the Flames had a great draft.

After warming up to this pick, it's become my favorite of the draft.

[Roof-Daddy]

I hope this kid comes out guns a blazin', makes the WJ team and lights it up there.

Same with Klimchuk, although he's further off the radar, but Sutter sees him quite a bit, and if he likes his game he might have a shot with a great start to the season.

Monahan is probably pretty much a lock, if sent back to junior.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

FWIW, Dreger said on TH last night that he thought the Flames had a great draft.

After warming up to this pick, it's become my favorite of the draft.

Curious, what made you not like it in the first place?

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by joe_mullen

I assume if Scott Howson made the same decision for CBJ and they were trending downwards after being oblivious to the truth for 3 years, they'd have been criticized as well.

Was it a good pick, maybe, but our decision making track record speaks for itself, like it or not.

If the Flames hired Shanahan a month ago and made the same pick, I suspect that the mainstream media would be talking about how savvy the pick was and how Shanny was making his mark on the team with a culture change, grittiness, etc... Same with the Tanguay trade. New team exec shaking things up with an eye for a possible breakout player like Jones.

[R2theJ]

I don't know what seems to be everyone's problem with this pick. Just because Shinkaruk is from Calgary or had his picture taken with the Hitmen as a kid doesn't mean he was the right choice for the Flames. They went off their "list" of who they thought was the BPA... Evidently Poirer ranked ahead of Hunter for their reasons and purposes, and I am more than fine with that. They employ scouts with much better hockey credentials than most if not any CP poster. I for one think Feaster and Co. have done a pretty good job recently with the draft, Knight, Galiardi and jettisoning Tanquay.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Curious, what made you not like it in the first place?

Pierre McGuire said it was a bad pick.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Pierre McGuire said it was a bad pick.

Isn't that MORE reason to like it?

[old-fart]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Pierre McGuire said it was a bad pick.

He did yes, the same Pierre who has been denied every GM job he has applied for, and he has applied for many including with the Flames.

Not a whole lot of stock in that opinion really.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by old-fart

He did yes, the same Pierre who has been denied every GM job he has applied for, and he has applied for many including with the Flames.

Not a whole lot of stock in that opinion really.

He didn't like the Jankowski pick either. He's entitled to his opinion I just wish he wasn't so negative when he's spent nowhere near the time scouting the players that teams have. I'd like to know how many times he even saw Poirier play last season.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Curious, what made you not like it in the first place?

I don't think I ever really disliked it, was just frustrated Feaster went off the board for the pick.

Now that I've done my research, I think Poirier should have been ranked higher.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I don't think I ever really disliked it, was just frustrated Feaster went off the board for the pick.

Now that I've done my research, I think Poirier should have been ranked higher.

The sooner you, and a plethora of others realize a)There is no board.. and b)Just because you didn't hear the name an hour ago when you became a draft expect.. doesn't mean it's a bad pick.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I don't think I ever really disliked it, was just frustrated Feaster went off the board for the pick.

Now that I've done my research, I think Poirier should have been ranked higher.

So now it's not "off the board" I guess?

[Ashasx]

The board I'm referring to would be lists such as ISS, McKenzie's list, etc.

[Vinny01]

Dream scenario

Monahan looks good in the NHL.
Klimchuk-Jankowski-Poirier line dominates in the wjhc

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The board I'm referring to would be lists such as ISS, McKenzie's list, etc.

The only board that matters is the board after the draft, the board that states exactly where each player was drafted. Every "board" previous are just opinions, sometimes by mad men like Ray Ferarro who for some reason is at the TSN draft panel but has clearly only seen a handful of players once or twice.

Here is the 2013 draft board.

[Loyal and True]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Lambert is actually a Flames fan. And in that article, he is clearly a Flames fan reacting the same way many on CP did at the time of the pick.

Yes, always consider the source.

In my opinion, ol' buddy Lambert is a complete idiot. I regret reading everything that goof has ever written. I would rather read everything Francis has ever written in the Sun before reading something new from that clown. /foaming-at-the-mouth-rant

Now that I know who wrote the Puck-Daddy piece, I can avoid clicking the link. Thanks.

[joe_mullen]

Originally Posted by devo22

Shinkaruk was ranked around 10 in most predictions, meaning that Philadelphia, Phoenix, Winnipeg, Columbus (twice), the Isles, Buffalo, Ottawa, San Jose, Detroit, Toronto and Washington also passed on Shinkaruk. Yet only Calgary is deemed "losers" in that one blog and gets criticized for it ... why? Cause he's a Calgarian? That's BS. When a third of the league passes on a player, you can't just single one team out, even if they have been a "laughing stock". It's just biased and unfair evaluation, especially when the other two 1st round picks are deemed good choices by virtually everbody.

Biased or not, I'm just saying that ALL those teams are looked upon in a higher light than the Flames (except maybe the Jets). The response from the media is not necessarily unwarranted in light of our recent past. Until this team proves itself to be run somewhat professionally (that last few weeks suggest a change of course), we should all be used to this sentiment, plain and simple. To suggest that the media is out to get us, as many here do, is just plain paranoia. We have made our bed and these are the consequences.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

The only board that matters is the board after the draft, the board that states exactly where each player was drafted. Every "board" previous are just opinions, sometimes by mad men like Ray Ferarro who for some reason is at the TSN draft panel but has clearly only seen a handful of players once or twice.

Here is the 2013 draft board.

I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying that this is what the fans and media refer to when rating a draft pick after the draft.

I'm not saying it's smart. All I was saying was that based on my readings, Poirier was given 1st round consideration from the people that mattered. Unfortunately for me, the people that matter don't release prospect lists for fans to look at before the draft.

Shinkaruk is rumoured to have interviewed poorly, and we know he came into the combine in below average shape (terrible when compared to the 1st round of the draft). ISS probably doesn't take this stuff into consideration.

[Hells Bells]

Originally Posted by joe_mullen

Biased or not, I'm just saying that ALL those teams are looked upon in a higher light than the Flames (except maybe the Jets). The response from the media is not necessarily unwarranted in light of our recent past. Until this team proves itself to be run somewhat professionally (that last few weeks suggest a change of course), we should all be used to this sentiment, plain and simple. To suggest that the media is out to get us, as many here do, is just plain paranoia. We have made our bed and these are the consequences.

The Jets reached when they took Morrissey and that was a savvy pick. The BJ's who had been the laughing stock for over a decade until last season passed on Shinkaruk TWICE and also reached for Dano, yet no criticism for those picks. Oh right, they have a shiny new GM that everyone likes to praise although he hasn't proven anything... so they obviously can't criticize him.

The Leafs were garbage for 20 years and they never took the kind of abuse from TSN that Calgary has the last few years. It's okay if you don't agree with us, but you have to understand that we can just as easily call you delusional as you can call us paranoid.

[foshizzle11]

^^^
not sure I agree completely with you. It is media, people like controversy and they will say what they want to get readers. Yes, it is biased to some point. They just assume that the Flames are still just doing the same ol' thing, when in reality they are not. Things are changing and it hasn't just been in the last few weeks. It has been for the last year or so. Feaster is on the right track and I hope he can keep on going. So far each of his drafts have been good.