[News] Toronto and another team granted permission to talk to Kipper

[azzarish]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

He might be talking about that Kipper's head was not in the game. Peter Mahr on the fan this morning, said he could tell during last nights game time shoot around, that Kipper looked like his head was elsewhere, and he thought Kipper would have a bad game before the puck even dropped.

The other talkers on the show mentioned that when they have looked into his eyes before the game starts, that he has not had the same look as he has in the past. They all seem to think his head is elsewhere. Granted it could be the family but they made it sound like its been like that before the birth of his child.

Persnoally i think he can't stand the way the team plays in front of him and has had enough.

I think he's seeing what's going on and the direction the club is taking by trading older players on higher salaries and putting faith in much younger players.

To be honest when you've been the starting goaltender for one organization for the better part of 10 years, and you see what's happening, your mind would start wondering as well.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by 3thirty

IIRC you can't sign a player your team bought out.

Correct. You cannot reacquire the player in any way (trade, waiver claim, or signing) for a minimum of one year after a buyout.

[Teroy]

Kipper has been all we had for the last few years. Without him we'd probably have been drafting near the top all along. I hate to see him go or retire. He will always be one of my favourite Flames players. If we owe anyone gratitude, it's him.

[Flamin' DBag]

The best part about this, should that tweet be correct, is that Kypreos has been completely wrong.

Also, I'd expect any deal to have a conditional pick coming back should kipper re-sign.

[Wronskian]

Dreger said the extension would be more or less an agreement. Similar to what the Flames did with Berra.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by transplant99

As of a week ago his child was still in neo-natal care in the hospital from what i understand.

Some situations are different from others and it drives me nuts when people make asumptions about situations they have absolutely NO information about.

nm.

[Teroy]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

LOL get off your High horse "transplant99" every thread is about assumptions.

Also are you not also giving up assumptions that his child is in neo-natal care?

Give me a flipping break with the, i am high and all mighty.

Takes one to know one!

[genetic_phreek]

is this a forum about Kipper or is it an internet tough guy competition?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

nm.

No..i am not making any assumptions other than i dont know if his boy has been released yet or if he is still in the hospital.

Oh...and " high and mighty"?

Im giving you some godamn information....maybe you should look in the mirror.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

is this a forum about Kipper or is it an internet tough guy competition?

Why can't it be both?

[GGG]

The way I see it is that kipper and the leafs will sign a 2 year extension worth 7.5 million. With the 1.5 million due to kipper next year he would get paid 3 mil per season over the next 3 years. 1.5 next year plus 1.5 signing bonus plus 3 mil for the next two years.

[Badger Bob]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

I suppose it depends on if you think Kiprusoff will experience a resurgence along with a change of scenery.

Kiprusoff immediately gets better from not having the Western Conference travel load and relieving the expectation of having to backstop 70 games/season.

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Why can't it be both?

You got a point. I got nuthin.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Teroy

Kipper has been all we had for the last few years. Without him we'd probably have been drafting near the top all along. I hate to see him go or retire. He will always be one of my favourite Flames players. If we owe anyone gratitude, it's him.

It would have been better to have three high draft picks than three 9th place finishes. He was saving us from getting better, oddly enough.

[Phaneufenstein]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

The point is to clear salary space and recoup draft picks. Everyone else who was part of the old core is going. He goes too.

I agree, but what I'm saying, is that I wouldn't do for anything less that a 2nd rounder.
He's worth more to the team here.
If anything that's the only guy of the old core I would keep

[Badger Bob]

Originally Posted by Phaneufenstein

I wouldn't do for anything less that a 2nd rounder.

Considering that's what was given up to get him, and his value was maximized since, that should be a decent enough return. Goalies tend not to fetch that much in the trade market. If it's down to one (maybe two) teams, and he has the leverage of retiring, there'd better not be anybody crying about the pick.

[Wronskian]

Is there still nothing coming out about this other team? It sucks that the team involved is the Leafs because it immediately grabs all of the focus off the situation.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by Teroy

Kipper has been all we had for the last few years. Without him we'd probably have been drafting near the top all along.

So you're saying that without him, we'd have a better team right now?

I don't think you meant for it to sound this way but think about it, without him we would have the same playoff experience the past 3 years but we'd have better draft picks to show for it.

People need to stop living in the past, sure he did a lot for the Flames but that was then, this is now. This team needs to move on and he should go somewhere with more of a chance than we have.

[keenan87]

I want this trade to happen already. I hope we get something because at this time, I really don't want Kipper on this team anymore.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Teroy

Kipper has been all we had for the last few years. Without him we'd probably have been drafting near the top all along. I hate to see him go or retire. He will always be one of my favourite Flames players. If we owe anyone gratitude, it's him.

He was terrible during Brent's second season. Absolutely horrendous. Kipper tends to have one good season and then follows it up with one bad season. He is currently on his bad season. Personally, I don't want Kipper continuing the trend next year and backstopping this team to a 9th place finish.