06-27-2011, 12:30 PM
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#481
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First Line Centre
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Dear mail carriers....get an education and a real job. Signed - the future
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06-27-2011, 12:48 PM
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#482
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Husky
Dear mail carriers....get an education and a real job. Signed - the future
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Dear Husky - learn a trade and get a real job like a real man - signed - the real future.
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06-27-2011, 12:48 PM
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#483
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Norm!
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Now lets not bash the individual mail carriers here, I'm pretty sure that the Union told them a good story and convinced them that Canada Post would fold, give them what they wanted because dang nabbit they're organized labour, and they'd be back to work no harm done in a couple of weeks.
Canada Post didn't fold in this case though, and we're seeing that more and more with organized labor versus business.
While this wasn't a crushing like Telus crushing the union, it was a pretty bad beating, and it also harmed the NDP party in parliment as well.
Just coming out of a recession, people don't want to hear or deal with this kind of crap.
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06-27-2011, 12:50 PM
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#484
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chemgear
That article is a nice summary read. So many things boggle my mind from the union:
So CUPW used the dispute to push back. It wanted Canada Post to become larger, rather than smaller. It urged the post office, for example, to get into banking, getting rid of super mailboxes and allowing letter carriers to check up on the elderly along their routes. Higher postal rates would pay for the expanded service.
Workers seem to be out of touch with a stark reality: Canada Post isn’t a make-work project.
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews...03-160539.html
In material distributed Friday, the union is calling on Canada Post to be more like France's postal service, which is combating reduced postal use by starting a new service called, Bonjour facteur! (Good morning, postman!).
Under the program, French letter carriers would do jobs usually carried out by family members, such as checking-in on the elderly and delivering medicines from local pharmacies to people with mobility problems.
WTF?! Next thing you know, the postal union will want to start up hospices, dog walking services or take over pool boy/milkmen duties for MILF's. 
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In Germany Duetsche Post is has quite a large banking arm and it stems from days in that part of the world where post offices took deposits. The banking arm grew and they bought a bunch of banks over the years and now actually are quite big. This is a non-starter for Canada Post because it currently performs zero banking functions and has the same where where-withall towards starting one up as any other non-banking company. It's also quite laughable that the union believes in this as progress, because it's not like letter carriers or mail sorters would make good bankers. Nor would the service be able to compete for talent if it were unionized.
The French example is essentially a full blown NDP style make-work project. If I were a postie I would be embarassed to work for a union that essentially proposed that my future work exploits should be to live off the avails of taxpayer funded charity.
The concept of labour coming together with management to make business decisions is laughable and fails everytime. The role of Unions are only with regards to worker exploitation and not worker redundancy. The problem most of them have is that they fail to understand that the product of labor is actually the point as opposed to the process thereof.
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06-27-2011, 12:53 PM
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#485
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Norm!
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Maybe they should form an escort service for lonely horny 60 year old ladies who are stuck at home during the day.
Mailman - "Here's your mail Glady's, and here's my schlong"
5 minutes later.
Mailman - "Aaaand here's your invoice"
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06-27-2011, 01:08 PM
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#486
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Back in Calgary!!
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If the clearing of the backlog in mail involves me getting 5 weeks worth of useless flyers jammed in my mailbox, I'm gonna booby trap my mailbox and become a freeman on the land who does not have a need for mail service.
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06-27-2011, 01:18 PM
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#487
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sa226
If the clearing of the backlog in mail involves me getting 5 weeks worth of useless flyers jammed in my mailbox, I'm gonna booby trap my mailbox and become a freeman on the land who does not have a need for mail service.
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So put a note on your mailbox that says "No flyers/junk mail please"...Not hard.
And an FYI sometimes they have to deliver the flyers regardless as Canada Post has a contract with the business to deliver that particular 3rd class mail.
Last edited by Hockeyguy15; 06-27-2011 at 01:21 PM.
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06-27-2011, 01:24 PM
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#488
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Maybe they should form an escort service for lonely horny 60 year old ladies who are stuck at home during the day.
Mailman - "Here's your mail Glady's, and here's my schlong"
5 minutes later.
Mailman - "Aaaand here's your invoice"
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Postman always rings twice...
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06-27-2011, 01:28 PM
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#489
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Norm!
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Did you want me to deliver this package to the rear ma'am?
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06-27-2011, 01:29 PM
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#490
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15
So put a note on your mailbox that says "No flyers/junk mail please"...Not hard.
And an FYI sometimes they have to deliver the flyers regardless as Canada Post has a contract with the business to deliver that particular 3rd class mail.
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I thought they recently clarified that by law all items have to be delivered regardless of any notes the person leaves.
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06-27-2011, 01:35 PM
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#491
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
To be honest, after meeting the postal carriers in my area, I'm not sure that I'd want them checking up on my parents or delivering their perscription of pain killers after their car accident.
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What? You mean they aren't all Cliff Clavin or Mr. McFeely? At least they all have creepy mustaches right?
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06-27-2011, 01:36 PM
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#492
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evil of fart
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15
So put a note on your mailbox that says "No flyers/junk mail please"...Not hard.
And an FYI sometimes they have to deliver the flyers regardless as Canada Post has a contract with the business to deliver that particular 3rd class mail.
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Everybody knows that. That was the poster's point - it'll be annoying when we get the backlog of junk mail we don't want and that a sticker won't prevent us from getting.
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06-27-2011, 01:43 PM
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#493
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Franchise Player
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personally, i can ahrdly wait to start receiving 3rd class mail - it is the only kind of mail that saves you money - 1st and second class mail cost you money........
of course that assumes that my postal worker is not using up his banked sick days to retire early......
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06-27-2011, 02:19 PM
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#494
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Northendzone
personally, i can ahrdly wait to start receiving 3rd class mail - it is the only kind of mail that saves you money - 1st and second class mail cost you money........
of course that assumes that my postal worker is not using up his banked sick days to retire early......
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As stated before they can't use them unless it's because of injury/sickness and they require a doctor's note.
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06-27-2011, 02:22 PM
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#496
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northendzone
personally, i can ahrdly wait to start receiving 3rd class mail - it is the only kind of mail that saves you money - 1st and second class mail cost you money........
of course that assumes that my postal worker is not using up his banked sick days to retire early......
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Yeah, that's always been a major flaw of CP. Not puting replacement carriers on routes of sick or retired people. So many communities go without mail now.
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06-27-2011, 02:31 PM
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#497
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: KenKingsinton
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Some types of admail are not considered admail, depending on its' function. This is called Consumers' Choice. However, people should realize that Canada Post isn't usually the one bypassing the rules. There are plenty of companies (such as Adco) that will deliver flyers regardless of what your mailbox says because that is their entire job.
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06-27-2011, 02:49 PM
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#498
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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No one gives a #### about the mail.
If they replace the letter carriers with hot chicks in bikinis, then they've made progress.
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06-27-2011, 03:01 PM
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#499
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: I'm right behind you
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shazam
No one gives a #### about the mail.
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Yeah, no one except charities who recieve the majority of their donations through the mail and small businesses who rely upon the inexpensive shipping of Canada Post in order to survive.
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06-27-2011, 03:06 PM
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#500
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Originally Posted by Reaper
Yeah, no one except charities who recieve the majority of their donations through the mail and small businesses who rely upon the inexpensive shipping of Canada Post in order to survive.
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There are alternatives.
Hell, usually I don't give a carp about unions but in this case they've screwed themselves over.
Maybe the union leaders should send some charitable donations?
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