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Biden 6 66.67%
Trump 3 33.33%
Kanye/other/Independent 0 0%
Would not vote 0 0%
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Old 11-07-2020, 11:57 AM   #4921
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1973, Biden enters politics.



1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988,



::takes breath::





1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000,





....wait for it...





2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010.



....almost there....



2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020.



2021: BIDEN FINALLY FIXES THE COUNTRY
And yet most politicians never get the prize good for you Biden

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Old 11-07-2020, 11:59 AM   #4922
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Donna Brazille was on Fox News about 30 minutes ago and they asked her what the Biden/Harris win meant to her. She couldn't speak. It was very moving. When she composed herself it was 5 minutes of terrific television. She really spoke from the heart.

Things feel so different already.
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Old 11-07-2020, 11:59 AM   #4923
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Old 11-07-2020, 12:00 PM   #4924
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Good post.

(Although I think Biden's platform for this election was pretty much just that he was not Trump. Sanders and Yang had actual agendas, which is almost certainly why they didn't get nominated).

The error that blue-staters aren't recognizing in themselves is that they think they aren't contributing to the caustic tenor of the national conversation. They are wrong on this, and I'm pointing that out.
Sorry bro the last troll set posted a video from a nazi, you’re gonna have to step the game up if you want to get that big attention here. “I’ve never heard someone say Black lives don’t matter” level stuff isn’t going to cut it anymore.

You can’t talk about how gross generalisations of red state folks are bad, while grossly generalising blue state folks. That’s see-through nonsense. If there’s healing to be done, attempts at evening out the conversation isn’t going to cut it. The conversation has to change entirely.
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Old 11-07-2020, 12:03 PM   #4926
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Don’t want to go back and try to find the posts, but kudos to those of you who threw a few bucks down on Biden when the odds started swinging towards Trump. Wish I would have done the same. Well done.

I won't believe any of this until my account is credited. Missed it when Trump was at the peak at 9pm? something like -700? but i did get something in later when Biden was speaking for the first time.
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Old 11-07-2020, 12:03 PM   #4927
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I will say there are a lot of strawmen arguments from the right. But there are some legit ones as well and they should be discussed. The left are the ones calling people sexist, racist, homophobes over everything. Even today, when the minority votes increased for Trump in this election, and entire Texas hispanic counties flipped, well, they're white now, or they're stupid. There were many issues, right or wrong, that people voted for.
I guess.
But if people are voting for a racist and sexist person like Trump it means one of two things.
1. They agree with some or all of Trump's racist, sexist and prejudice views
or
2. They are willing to compromise those values because they care more about other things (e.g. the economy).

That's over simplifying it - but isn't that the case? Explain to me how it isn't.
Voting for Trump DOES say something about a person's moral make-up. That may be tough to hear - but time for folks to take a hard and honest look at themselves.

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Old 11-07-2020, 12:04 PM   #4928
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Sorry bro the last troll set posted a video from a nazi, you’re gonna have to step the game up if you want to get that big attention here. “I’ve never heard someone say Black lives don’t matter” level stuff isn’t going to cut it anymore.

You can’t talk about how gross generalisations of red state folks are bad, while grossly generalising blue state folks. That’s see-through nonsense. If there’s healing to be done, attempts at evening out the conversation isn’t going to cut it. The conversation has to change entirely.
So you do recognize that universality of the vitriol getting thrown around, which is good.
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I guess.
But if people are voting for a racist and sexist person like Trump it means one of two things.
1. They agree with some or all of Trump's racist, sexist and prejudice views
or
2. They are will to compromise those values because they care more about other things (e.g. the economy).

That's over simplifying it - but isn't that the case? Explain to me how it isn't.
Voting for Trump DOES say something about a person's moral make-up. That may be tough to hear - but time for folks to take a hard and honest look at themselves.
I rest my case.
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It's remarkable the amount of times you hear a version of the following said without recognizing the irony (even in this thread regularly):

"I can't believe 70 million idiots voted for that divisive moron."
Really?? Idiots??? Frankly anyone who votes for this man has flawed thinking if they can’t honestly take a look at the past 4 years and make an informed decision on the future of their country. Am I calling them idiots? No, I think they just happened to be heavily miss informed and how is that shocking when they follow a President who spewed 22000 plus lies over four years and follow a news network in Fox who pushes opinion pieces filled with the same rhetoric.

Do some people call them idiots?? Yes; did Hillary call them a basket of deplorables?? Yes, she did... but really it just brings it back to the pebbles and boulders comment. It’s a non argument when you put it into the context of who those people are supporting in Trump and the nasty comments he has spewed against anyone and anything that opposes him even those who stand with him which is quite hilarious for a man who values ‘loyalty’ with such high regard.
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I rest my case.
You have no case?
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I rest my case.
You're agreeing with him?
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I rest my case.
Excellent! Ok. Bye.


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Old 11-07-2020, 12:09 PM   #4935
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I rest my case.
Trump is a racist and a sexist. Do you disagree with that?

If we're on the same page up until now, then anyone who votes for Trump is therefore someone who:

1. Is a racist and/or sexist themself.
2. Doesn't consider rampant racism and sexism from a presidential candidate to be a deal-breaker.

So what exactly is your case?
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Old 11-07-2020, 12:10 PM   #4936
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You're agreeing with him?
No, he just conveniently made the point I've been making.

"If you voted for Trump, you must be racists...even just a little, right? Also, why is everyone so divided?"
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I guess.
But if people are voting for a racist and sexist person like Trump it means one of two things.
1. They agree with some or all of Trump's racist, sexist and prejudice views
or
2. They are will to compromise those values because they care more about other things (e.g. the economy).

That's over simplifying it - but isn't that the case? Explain to me how it isn't.
Voting for Trump DOES say something about a person's moral make-up. That may be tough to hear - but time for folks to take a hard and honest look at themselves.

I agree #1, or #2 or a combination of is why people voted for Trump. But those definitions are very very skewed. There are many examples of people getting caught up in that. Such as calling minorities white or stupid. You know that I don't buy into identity politics at all. For example, I believe immigration is a numbers issue, not a race issue. Proven by the fact minorities don't support illegal immigrant either. So language and labeling is very important going forward.
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More than anything Trump has spit in the face of the democratic process countless times. He’s dangerous to how our two countries operate, however flawed.

Not to give him a pass on the rest obviously, but that is the most shocking and scary part to me.
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Please stop replying to Troll Levi everyone. This is supposed to be a happy thread today. Save it for the next American Politics thread. Then you can beat your head against a wall making perfectly valid points that he/she chooses to ignore only to carry on with a narrative that nobody is talking about.

Today is for GIFs

As for Trump...he seems to be MIA all of a sudden...

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