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Old 06-05-2016, 06:57 PM   #4841
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Future Considerations has Keller at #7.
You just supported his point. Future Considerations is not a scouting service.
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Old 06-05-2016, 06:59 PM   #4842
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I love the idea of replacing Gio before it becomes urgent
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Logan Brown does make a ton of sense for Calgary. So do the D-men if they reach their ceiling.
How does a giant soft centre make sense for the Flames? The other thing that is a huge warning sign to me with Brown is his season was not that good until they acquired a gritty fast firepot in Lemieux. That guy drove the offence on that team, not Brown. I still think Brown will end up being that big player that is not skilled enough to be a top two C but not physically engaging enough to be a shut down gritty 3rd line C either.
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:11 PM   #4844
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Sergachev at 6 for me. That has high potential to give the flames the best defence in the league in a few years. Deal from a position of strength and trade one of our D prospects or an aging Gio (sad but think Iginla and missed capital) for a stud scoring winger.
Sergachev is definitely #1 for me out of the D men. Interviews very well too.
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:11 PM   #4845
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I love the idea of replacing Gio before it becomes urgent
Well Gio's not getting replaced any time soon with that contract just kicking in. IMO this team already has a log jam at the defensive position so picking a defenseman at 6 is kind of a luxury pick. Has anyone looked at the Flames forward depth lately and looked at the Penguins and Sharks rosters? It's nice to have great defensive depth but you need forwards that can put the puck in the net and the Flames have Monahan, Gaudreau, and Bennett and the rest are role players and bottom 6 talents. Addressing this lack of depth via free agency is going to be extremely costly so I feel even if the team really likes one of the defensemen they will probably pick a forward.
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:12 PM   #4846
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Assuming that (in this universe) a player projecting to be 6 foot, 200+ pounds isn't an absolute pushover, and nine out of ten giants tend to crap out because of poor mobility, where does that leave us?

This has probably been discussed at length over the past 25 pages, but if someone wouldn't mind updating us with the prohibition against 5-11 to 6 foot players removed and the 6'6 and taller 'skating could be an issue' players eliminated, who is the likely option?

Thanks in advance, as I don't have time for heavy reading at the moment.
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:14 PM   #4847
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How does a giant soft centre make sense for the Flames? The other thing that is a huge warning sign to me with Brown is his season was not that good until they acquired a gritty fast firepot in Lemieux. That guy drove the offence on that team, not Brown. I still think Brown will end up being that big player that is not skilled enough to be a top two C but not physically engaging enough to be a shut down gritty 3rd line C either.
He's no more soft then Keller or Nylander, so why would that be an issue? As to your second point you may be right, but no scout has brought that up as an issue so I'll take your opinion with a grain of salt. Brown isn't the only prospect with talented line mates, I don't see that as a flaw.
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:22 PM   #4848
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Assuming that (in this universe) a player projecting to be 6 foot, 200+ pounds isn't an absolute pushover, and nine out of ten giants tend to crap out because of poor mobility, where does that leave us?

This has probably been discussed at length over the past 25 pages, but if someone wouldn't mind updating us with the prohibition against 5-11 to 6 foot players removed and the 6'6 and taller 'skating could be an issue' players eliminated, who is the likely option?

Thanks in advance, as I don't have time for heavy reading at the moment.
The only two that fit are Mikhail Sergachev and Jakub Chychrun, a pair of D-men.
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:23 PM   #4849
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Sergachev is definitely #1 for me out of the D men. Interviews very well too.
Same here. If the Flames go the D-route Sergachev is the one I'm hoping for.
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The only two that fit are Mikhail Sergachev and Jakub Chychrun, a pair of D-men.
So the only other options are tiny people or basketball players? Yeesh. Now I see why this thread has so much activity.
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:28 PM   #4851
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So the only other options are tiny people or basketball players? Yeesh. Now I see why this thread has so much activity.
None of 5'10", 5'11", or 6'0.5" are tiny.
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:31 PM   #4852
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I'm not sure why people don't like Nylander for us. RH winger who's not small and has a high ceiling.
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I also believe he's under strict instruction from Burkie to make the top 6 bigger by any means necessary.
Ah.

That explains why he traded for 5`10`` Hunter Shinkaruk and then kept him up once he was a mainstay on our top 6.
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Praying to the hockey gods that Benning selects Logan Brown over Dubois!

That being said, I wouldn't mind Brown at 6 assuming the big 5 are gone. Quite a few options at 6 that I would be fine with. Juolevi, Brown, Nylander
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None of 5'10", 5'11", or 6'0.5" are tiny.
So that's Mikhail Sergachev and Jakub Chychrun? That would make the decently sized 5'10 guy Keller? Under those circumstances I wouldn't mind either Sergachev or Keller.
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I'll be thrilled with whomever they pick. It's most certainly going to end up being one of Tkachuk, Doubois or Nylander.
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I'm not sure why people don't like Nylander for us. RH winger who's not small and has a high ceiling.
It's his last name.
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So the only other options are tiny people or basketball players? Yeesh. Now I see why this thread has so much activity.
The two D-men are 6-2 each. There's another one Juolevi who is a Bouwmeester type guy despite being the same size. The other two D available after them are 6-0 and 6-1 as well, so nothing spectacular there either.

All the wingers are smaller and the center is huge.

Hoping that one of the top 5 falls is the best case scenario.
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You just supported his point. Future Considerations is not a scouting service.
The 30 guys we have in rinks almost nightly (through the hockey season) would take great offense to your post.
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:35 PM   #4860
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Well Gio's not getting replaced any time soon with that contract just kicking in. IMO this team already has a log jam at the defensive position so picking a defenseman at 6 is kind of a luxury pick. Has anyone looked at the Flames forward depth lately and looked at the Penguins and Sharks rosters? It's nice to have great defensive depth but you need forwards that can put the puck in the net and the Flames have Monahan, Gaudreau, and Bennett and the rest are role players and bottom 6 talents. Addressing this lack of depth via free agency is going to be extremely costly so I feel even if the team really likes one of the defensemen they will probably pick a forward.
Ya, there's many ways to build a team, though... I'd be ecstatic with a solid G and the league's best Top 4 D...the forwards score now, and then young guys are still improving, so I see no issue picking a D if they figure he's BPA
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