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Old 11-07-2014, 11:53 AM   #4841
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Vote Count:

With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes on any one player to hammer. It takes 2 votes to deadline lynch.

Hasn’t Voted (1): Drury18

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Oling_Roachinen (3): dissentowner, Hockeyguy15, Timbo
dissentowner (2): Oling_Roachinen

The deadline is Tuesday, November 11th at 10:00 PM Mountain Time. Hammer cannot be dropped before Friday, November 7th at 10:00 PM Mountain Time.
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Old 11-07-2014, 12:18 PM   #4842
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Diss, who has your Super Sonic shoes?
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Old 11-07-2014, 12:23 PM   #4843
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Diss, who has your Super Sonic shoes?
I do. They have not been given out yet. I can only give out one power a night and I had to hand the Chaos Emeralds to someone I could trust and whom I thought would still be here. That didn't work out obviously.
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Old 11-07-2014, 12:24 PM   #4844
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That's what I figured.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:06 PM   #4845
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:08 PM   #4846
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Once Drury votes Oling we are still up 4-3.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:12 PM   #4847
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So you accepted an invite without letting anybody else know? Funny, when I got my Guardian invite I talked it over with everybody before I rejected it because that was advised as a group decision and we had agreed not take anymore cult offers. So you are scum and you have an extra vote. Nice.
Like I said, I could have just been quiet the whole day and hammered you at 10:00. This way I do put the game into the hands of the person I most think to be town and hopefully get a better read onto you. I didn't like you saying that I got my investigation result earlier in the day when I do get them right as the night ends/ day starts. But at the same time both Timbo and Hockeyguy15 confirmed that, when I think your partner would have came up with the same lie..


It's a bit different situation when I know town loses if the mafia have 2 members when you just gave up a doctor and bulletproof vest.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:12 PM   #4848
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There's one thing that really bothers me in this whole Diss/Oling thing.

Since yesterday, Oling you've done nothing but make it an effort to point out in almost every post I'm town. You tried to trick me into voting against Diss and then said it's because you think I'm town and want to help me understand. You wanted to act alone, and sneaky, to hammer someone shortly after I said that I still had my power to stop a lynch and you were VERY QUICK to point out it's useless. You pushed for me to take a power and join a group (after you were also a VERY STRONG advocate for avoiding groups) if I thought Diss was town to save us. You seem to really want to get yourself aligned with me and make it public. Now yes, I am a townie, but why would another townie want to hang off someone and point at them every chance they get and go "Hey, they are a townie, I trust them they are a townie, now trust me". I saved Timbo's ass and he's not this bad. No one here is questioning I'm town. Plus, I ask you a question, you get all weird defensive. And tried to set it up to make me look by mafia by asking why I haven't voted and then went off on that weird tangent to come back and say you just want me to understand you and you know I'm town. In the last few hours, you've gone back on everything you stood for in this game and have lied. You're desperate.

Then you have Diss. If Diss was mafia and this close to being hammered with your double vote, shouldn't his head be up my ass if I have the last vote? Shouldn't he be doing everything in his power to beg for me not to kill him. Or beg everyone else not to move their vote? Shouldn't he be screaming he knows I'm town, pointing out I've trusted him from the start and stating he hasn't joined a group so he's obviously aligned with me? Because he hasn't done any of that. He's hinted yesterday he knows I'm town, but he isn't using me as a shield. He's not telling me to vote for you because he's town, you are scum. I asked him a question, I got a simple answer. I didn't get a whole story along the lines of he really wanted to give me the un-lynchable because he 100% knows I'm town but for whatever reason he didn't. He's not begging for the others on the board to confirm and validate his actions. He's not acting like a desperate person.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:26 PM   #4849
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Since yesterday, Oling you've done nothing but make it an effort to point out in almost every post I'm town.
Uh, I feel like it's been longer than just yesterday. But sure.
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He's not acting like a desperate person.
And that's the difference. I am. I've said as much. Now is it because I am the last mafia member or because I'm the townie who knows when I die we lose?

I haven't been desperate any other time I've been in trouble because town always had a chance. I never wanted to rely on powers because I didn't trust them. Today, I feel strongly that without accepting town would lose. I do believe very strongly I had the ability to vote for Diss and hammer this if I would have just shut up. So the question becomes why I didn't?

Either way, we find out tonight and I put the choice to you. I'll vote whoever you want, outside myself, if you aren't comfortable with Diss, but I was afraid that at best it would have ended up a 3-3 tie or, more likely, a lynch for me and a townie defeat.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:27 PM   #4850
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Also Oling, if you were so hell bent on Diss being mafia you know what would have been a brilliant way to get him to out himself?

Ask him what he did with his shoes or crystals BEFORE you said you visited him. If he is mafia, you gave him an opportunity to have the night to make up a lie. You could have asked him what he was up to first, then revealed your results. That would have been town thinking. Make the mafia talk first, not give them a way to make up an excuse.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:28 PM   #4851
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Diss, do you still contend that I had the ability to kill based off of my investigation results? Even after confirmation that we receive the investigation results from Timbo and Hockeyguy15 right as the night ends?

I mean you could have just as easily made the argument that Puxlut was killed because she would have gone after me no matter what, which I think is why she was killed to frame me some more, but my tracking of you had no barring on the kill regardless of what side you think I am.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:33 PM   #4852
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Also Oling, if you were so hell bent on Diss being mafia you know what would have been a brilliant way to get him to out himself?

Ask him what he did with his shoes or crystals BEFORE you said you visited him. If he is mafia, you gave him an opportunity to have the night to make up a lie. You could have asked him what he was up to first, then revealed your results. That would have been town thinking. Make the mafia talk first, not give them a way to make up an excuse.
It would still have come down to me vs him and who we trust. I wasn't exactly sober at the time of my first post either.

I am not entirely sure he is mafia though. It's why I'll leave it to you decide instead of attempting to do a tricky hammer.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:41 PM   #4853
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I am not entirely sure he is mafia though.
Two votes on the guy and you aren't entirely sure? Why should I even entertain one more thing that you say?

You've gone from "Diss is Mafia" to "Diss is Mafia and I'll take powers and vote and be all sneaky to prove it" to "I think Diss is Mafia" and now saying you'll vote for whoever I want.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:45 PM   #4854
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Two votes on the guy and you aren't entirely sure? Why should I even entertain one more thing that you say?.
If I get lynched, we lose.

If Diss gets lynched, we might have a chance.

I'll take any chance over 0.

From a townie perspective there's no other choice for me unless you want to go hockeyguy15.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:50 PM   #4855
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Captain Falcon tried to conjure a second vote against Sonic, but Sandbag appeared in front of him instead. Sandbag just sat there, staring at him, like he always does.

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Old 11-07-2014, 01:53 PM   #4856
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And not everyone gets to prove their power as townie.

I've been accused for having a mafia power even when I proved my power (many times over).

At one point it was either me or Aeneas had to be mafia because of our powers. Well cop has found to be scum, watcher has been found to be scum, is investigator also going to be scum?

Would I have been so open if I was the Godfather? Would I be intentionally getting into arguments with pretty much every single townie as they die (either by lynch or night kill)? Would I have been willing to die days ago?

And it looks like it doesn't even matter now. Mafia win by a vote of 3-3 at worst but probably just with my lynch.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:55 PM   #4857
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Got to wonder where that Diss vote came from now that the Guardians failed. Guardians tried to trick me, but someone was able to put a vote on Diss. If mafia 3-3 is best case scenario. If town, 4-2 still possible.
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Old 11-07-2014, 02:11 PM   #4858
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If Diss is the Godfather, you wouldn't have been able to watch him. Godfathers are immune from tracking and watching. You wouldn't have seen him visit Pux and you wouldn't have seen him if he killed her.

So Diss either isn't the Godfather or you are lying about who you watched.

http://mafiawiki.notesmash.org/wiki/Godfather
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Old 11-07-2014, 02:12 PM   #4859
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If Diss is the Godfather, you wouldn't have been able to watch him. Godfathers are immune from tracking and watching. You wouldn't have seen him visit Pux and you wouldn't have seen him if he killed her.

So Diss either isn't the Godfather or you are lying about who you watched.

http://mafiawiki.notesmash.org/wiki/Godfather
When did I say he was Godfather?

And I revealed he target Puxlut before he revealed...
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Old 11-07-2014, 02:14 PM   #4860
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Oh, I get what your saying.

Yes I agree, he's not the Godfather.

No, I am not psychic, my power was used on him and he target Puxlut.
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