06-09-2024, 10:44 AM
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#4801
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Hackey
Not exactly the hardest dots to connect given the Devils were the biggest underachievers last year with the worst goalie stats in the league.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure lots were speculating Ruff would be fired around that time.
He obviously has some sort of connections though, because he did announce the Markstrom thing before anyone else I believe. Even if it fell apart last minute.
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06-09-2024, 10:47 AM
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#4802
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Red Potato Standing By
So why be a flames fan then? It seems weird to cheer for a team that brings this much negativity to your life.
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It does kind of seem like they got drunk and watched the Oilers lose and came here to post and make themselves feel better lol.
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06-09-2024, 12:59 PM
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#4803
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First Line Centre
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Flames have 4D in their top 7. Strong chance we see D at 9. Based on what I've herd from the Combine - Almost ZERO chance Tij makes it to 9 if the draft order stays the same. Teams in 5,6,7 had very extensive looks and detailed reviews of him. If Montreal doesn't take him, I think UTAH HC will. Flames know the cost to move 5 through 8. If Tij is available at 8, I think Ottawa will take one of the D. Flames have plenty of feelers to move into the top 10-15 and 15-25. Moving up past 9 does not appear to be an option today based off the cost but the week prior to the draft will be very important for the Flames as teams arrive in Vegas as teams lock in on their catch.
Ullmark is probably the goalie driving the most interest but with only 1 year remaining and wanting a pay raise its keeping the offers low currently. There is cheaper options available that are of boom bust variety some teams are considering.
Two Flames names are generating lots of phone calls, first is Markstrom this is a given and zero surprise. As of today, NJD have not put 10 on the table. Toronto, Buffalo and Carolina have all snooped around. Markstrom is not interested in staying West unless its Calgary (Sorry Kings fans). He would prefer to play in the East and make travel between Sweden (Personal reasons) and his new city easier. Sadly I don't think Markstrom is the main goalie on the Market but he is certainly the only cost controlled for the next two seasons. With the announcement of the cap going up retention slot are of value through the summer.
Martin Pospisil is gaining traction, his WHC have bumped his stock - Calgary loves the player and the intangibles and it would take a large over payment to get him, I personally don't see Calgary moving. Buffalo and Minnesota seem to be the two keeping tabs currently.
Rasmus Andersson has high price tag and I doubt many teams will meet this price prior to the draft and Free Agency. He's signed to an incredible contract. (1st ++)
Andrew Mangiapane is available but the market is so so cold on him and his 5.8 AAV contract. I expect him to be a pump and dump this season.
Flames will approach Chris Tanev to come back on 1 year deals at above average AAV and let him chase cups if its not available in Calgary. However his stock is high at the moment and contending teams could shelter him through the season better than the flames.
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06-09-2024, 01:16 PM
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#4804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
Flames have 4D in their top 7. Strong chance we see D at 9. Based on what I've herd from the Combine - Almost ZERO chance Tij makes it to 9 if the draft order stays the same. Teams in 5,6,7 had very extensive looks and detailed reviews of him. If Montreal doesn't take him, I think UTAH HC will. Flames know the cost to move 5 through 8. If Tij is available at 8, I think Ottawa will take one of the D. Flames have plenty of feelers to move into the top 10-15 and 15-25. Moving up past 9 does not appear to be an option today based off the cost but the week prior to the draft will be very important for the Flames as teams arrive in Vegas as teams lock in on their catch.
Ullmark is probably the goalie driving the most interest but with only 1 year remaining and wanting a pay raise its keeping the offers low currently. There is cheaper options available that are of boom bust variety some teams are considering.
Two Flames names are generating lots of phone calls, first is Markstrom this is a given and zero surprise. As of today, NJD have not put 10 on the table. Toronto, Buffalo and Carolina have all snooped around. Markstrom is not interested in staying West unless its Calgary (Sorry Kings fans). He would prefer to play in the East and make travel between Sweden (Personal reasons) and his new city easier. Sadly I don't think Markstrom is the main goalie on the Market but he is certainly the only cost controlled for the next two seasons. With the announcement of the cap going up retention slot are of value through the summer.
Martin Pospisil is gaining traction, his WHC have bumped his stock - Calgary loves the player and the intangibles and it would take a large over payment to get him, I personally don't see Calgary moving. Buffalo and Minnesota seem to be the two keeping tabs currently.
Rasmus Andersson has high price tag and I doubt many teams will meet this price prior to the draft and Free Agency. He's signed to an incredible contract. (1st ++)
Andrew Mangiapane is available but the market is so so cold on him and his 5.8 AAV contract. I expect him to be a pump and dump this season.
Flames will approach Chris Tanev to come back on 1 year deals at above average AAV and let him chase cups if its not available in Calgary. However his stock is high at the moment and contending teams could shelter him through the season better than the flames.
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Appreciated good sir.
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06-09-2024, 01:20 PM
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#4805
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
Flames have 4D in their top 7. Strong chance we see D at 9. Based on what I've herd from the Combine - Almost ZERO chance Tij makes it to 9 if the draft order stays the same. Teams in 5,6,7 had very extensive looks and detailed reviews of him. If Montreal doesn't take him, I think UTAH HC will. Flames know the cost to move 5 through 8. If Tij is available at 8, I think Ottawa will take one of the D. Flames have plenty of feelers to move into the top 10-15 and 15-25. Moving up past 9 does not appear to be an option today based off the cost but the week prior to the draft will be very important for the Flames as teams arrive in Vegas as teams lock in on their catch.
Ullmark is probably the goalie driving the most interest but with only 1 year remaining and wanting a pay raise its keeping the offers low currently. There is cheaper options available that are of boom bust variety some teams are considering.
Two Flames names are generating lots of phone calls, first is Markstrom this is a given and zero surprise. As of today, NJD have not put 10 on the table. Toronto, Buffalo and Carolina have all snooped around. Markstrom is not interested in staying West unless its Calgary (Sorry Kings fans). He would prefer to play in the East and make travel between Sweden (Personal reasons) and his new city easier. Sadly I don't think Markstrom is the main goalie on the Market but he is certainly the only cost controlled for the next two seasons. With the announcement of the cap going up retention slot are of value through the summer.
Martin Pospisil is gaining traction, his WHC have bumped his stock - Calgary loves the player and the intangibles and it would take a large over payment to get him, I personally don't see Calgary moving. Buffalo and Minnesota seem to be the two keeping tabs currently.
Rasmus Andersson has high price tag and I doubt many teams will meet this price prior to the draft and Free Agency. He's signed to an incredible contract. (1st ++)
Andrew Mangiapane is available but the market is so so cold on him and his 5.8 AAV contract. I expect him to be a pump and dump this season.
Flames will approach Chris Tanev to come back on 1 year deals at above average AAV and let him chase cups if its not available in Calgary. However his stock is high at the moment and contending teams could shelter him through the season better than the flames.
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Who would the options in that 10 to fifteen? Buffalo obviously, detroit possibly? Philly hard to say what direction they go, and minnesota could surprise.
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06-09-2024, 01:22 PM
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#4806
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
Flames have 4D in their top 7. Strong chance we see D at 9. Based on what I've herd from the Combine - Almost ZERO chance Tij makes it to 9 if the draft order stays the same. Teams in 5,6,7 had very extensive looks and detailed reviews of him. If Montreal doesn't take him, I think UTAH HC will. Flames know the cost to move 5 through 8. If Tij is available at 8, I think Ottawa will take one of the D. Flames have plenty of feelers to move into the top 10-15 and 15-25. Moving up past 9 does not appear to be an option today based off the cost but the week prior to the draft will be very important for the Flames as teams arrive in Vegas as teams lock in on their catch.
Ullmark is probably the goalie driving the most interest but with only 1 year remaining and wanting a pay raise its keeping the offers low currently. There is cheaper options available that are of boom bust variety some teams are considering.
Two Flames names are generating lots of phone calls, first is Markstrom this is a given and zero surprise. As of today, NJD have not put 10 on the table. Toronto, Buffalo and Carolina have all snooped around. Markstrom is not interested in staying West unless its Calgary (Sorry Kings fans). He would prefer to play in the East and make travel between Sweden (Personal reasons) and his new city easier. Sadly I don't think Markstrom is the main goalie on the Market but he is certainly the only cost controlled for the next two seasons. With the announcement of the cap going up retention slot are of value through the summer.
Martin Pospisil is gaining traction, his WHC have bumped his stock - Calgary loves the player and the intangibles and it would take a large over payment to get him, I personally don't see Calgary moving. Buffalo and Minnesota seem to be the two keeping tabs currently.
Rasmus Andersson has high price tag and I doubt many teams will meet this price prior to the draft and Free Agency. He's signed to an incredible contract. (1st ++)
Andrew Mangiapane is available but the market is so so cold on him and his 5.8 AAV contract. I expect him to be a pump and dump this season.
Flames will approach Chris Tanev to come back on 1 year deals at above average AAV and let him chase cups if it’s not available in Calgary. However his stock is high at the moment and contending teams could shelter him through the season better than the flames.
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I’m encouraged that all of this continues to move in the direction of rebuild.
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06-09-2024, 01:24 PM
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#4807
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Franchise Player
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Fantastic insights
And love to hear about that number of d in their rankings
Do the 3 forwards they have in their top 7 include celibrini or is it 3 non Mack forwards?
Trying to figure out the three
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06-09-2024, 01:26 PM
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#4808
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Fantastic insights
And love to hear about that number of d in their rankings
Do the 3 forwards they have in their top 7 include celibrini or is it 3 non Mack forwards?
Trying to figure out the three
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If not Celebrini, I'd bet it's Lindstrom, Helenius, and Tij. Size at Centre, two-way play at Centre, and an Iginla.
I am supremely bummed as it gets closer and closer to the draft and it sounds more and more like Tij won't be there at 9. Would have been a great story, and big punch of enthusiasm around town.
Last edited by ComixZone; 06-09-2024 at 01:28 PM.
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06-09-2024, 01:44 PM
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#4809
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
If not Celebrini, I'd bet it's Lindstrom, Helenius, and Tij. Size at Centre, two-way play at Centre, and an Iginla.
I am supremely bummed as it gets closer and closer to the draft and it sounds more and more like Tij won't be there at 9. Would have been a great story, and big punch of enthusiasm around town.
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I feel like demidov is for sure in the list. Consensus #2 forward after Mack and also conroy loves his Russians lol
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06-09-2024, 01:48 PM
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#4810
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Franchise Player
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I would guess Lindstrom, Demidov and one of Tij/Catton.
I'm not bummed at all. The key is getting a great player - of which they will have plenty of choices.
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06-09-2024, 01:57 PM
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#4811
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
Flames have 4D in their top 7. Strong chance we see D at 9. Based on what I've herd from the Combine -
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*heard
lol always appreciate your posts, just nitpicking since I've seen it a few times. A herd is referring to a large group of animals that are kept together (live, feed, migrate).
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06-09-2024, 02:02 PM
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#4812
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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My intel on Tij after the combine is the exact opposite, there is pretty much zero chance Iginla will go before 9. Will be interesting to see who heard this one correctly.
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06-09-2024, 02:07 PM
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#4813
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
My intel on Tij after the combine is the exact opposite, there is pretty much zero chance Iginla will go before 9. Will be interesting to see who heard this one correctly.
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I have one team being high on Tij but only if another player is gone by the time they pick. Otherwise I’ve heard the same, Tij “should” be there at 9 given the current estimated outcome.
But you never know!
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06-09-2024, 02:10 PM
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#4814
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
My intel on Tij after the combine is the exact opposite, there is pretty much zero chance Iginla will go before 9. Will be interesting to see who heard this one correctly.
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A lot of smoke and mirrors going into most drafts even moreso with how wide open this one is.
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06-09-2024, 02:10 PM
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#4815
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
If not Celebrini, I'd bet it's Lindstrom, Helenius, and Tij. Size at Centre, two-way play at Centre, and an Iginla.
I am supremely bummed as it gets closer and closer to the draft and it sounds more and more like Tij won't be there at 9. Would have been a great story, and big punch of enthusiasm around town.
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I think the 3 would be Lindstrom, Catton and Iginla.
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06-09-2024, 02:16 PM
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#4816
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by camm13
*heard
lol always appreciate your posts, just nitpicking since I've seen it a few times. A herd is referring to a large group of animals that are kept together (live, feed, migrate).
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Thanks! I herd more picks.
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06-09-2024, 02:17 PM
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#4817
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
I have one team being high on Tij but only if another player is gone by the time they pick. Otherwise I’ve heard the same, Tij “should” be there at 9 given the current estimated outcome.
But you never know!
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To elaborate more, I have heard the Ducks would have liked Levshunov but it looks like he is Chicago's choice. They are now leaning Silayev. Columbus will almost certainly take Demidov if the Ducks or Hawks do not but there is an outside chance they take Lindstrom instead. Montreal absolutely covets Lindstrom, if he is gone before 5 the rumour is they will pivot to Catton. If for some shocking reason both those guys are off the board (pretty much zero) they would draft Tij. I have heard Utah, Ottawa, and Seattle are all looking D, this is where I believe you will see a run of Parekh, Dickinson, and Buium go. Ottawa has been heavily rumoured to like Parekh. I am very very confident Tij will still be there at 9.
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06-09-2024, 02:50 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
To elaborate more, I have heard the Ducks would have liked Levshunov but it looks like he is Chicago's choice. They are now leaning Silayev. Columbus will almost certainly take Demidov if the Ducks or Hawks do not but there is an outside chance they take Lindstrom instead. Montreal absolutely covets Lindstrom, if he is gone before 5 the rumour is they will pivot to Catton. If for some shocking reason both those guys are off the board (pretty much zero) they would draft Tij. I have heard Utah, Ottawa, and Seattle are all looking D, this is where I believe you will see a run of Parekh, Dickinson, and Buium go. Ottawa has been heavily rumoured to like Parekh. I am very very confident Tij will still be there at 9.
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Interesting insight. I've been told Anaheim is willing move back in the top 10 if Levshunov is off the board. Dickinson/Parekh are right there on some team lists Top 5 and could be the disruptors. One source told me that if Anaheim passes up on Lindstrom he's falling to 5-7. Since Columbus will take Demidov and he believes two those teams have Iginla ahead of Lindstrom in the 5-10 holes.
Minnesota and Buffalo are both primed to move up. I've heard Minnesota's Wild Bill is very active. They have one more seasons of -14M cap space and want to come out of it competitive.
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06-09-2024, 03:00 PM
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#4819
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Thanks diss and Sec!
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06-09-2024, 03:02 PM
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#4820
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Sec214
Interesting insight. I've been told Anaheim is willing move back in the top 10 if Levshunov is off the board. Dickinson/Parekh are right there on some team lists Top 5 and could be the disruptors. One source told me that if Anaheim passes up on Lindstrom he's falling to 5-7. Since Columbus will take Demidov and he believes two those teams have Iginla ahead of Lindstrom in the 5-10 holes.
Minnesota and Buffalo are both primed to move up. I've heard Minnesota's Wild Bill is very active. They have one more seasons of -14M cap space and want to come out of it competitive.
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If Lindstrom falls, I could definitely see Minnesota paying the price to move up for him. They’ve never had a true top center
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